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Vicky. 10-12-2017 02:18 PM

Do you have psychopathic tendencies?
 
Made this thread because of a conversation in the videogame thread

Where https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...f-a-psychopath was posted. I then searched for this hare Psychopathy test thats mentioned in the article.


http://uk.businessinsider.com/hare-p...ficial-charm-1

My score is 35/40 when done according to the 0/1/2.

Only 2 of the questions do not apply at all. Most of them very strongly and constant

http://www.minddisorders.com/Flu-Inv...Checklist.html

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When properly completed by a qualified professional, the PCL-R provides a total score that indicates how closely the test subject matches the "perfect" score that a classic or prototypical psychopath would rate. Each of the twenty items is given a score of 0, 1, or 2 based on how well it applies to the subject being tested. A prototypical psychopath would receive a maximum score of 40, while someone with absolutely no psychopathic traits or tendencies would receive a score of zero. A score of 30 or above qualifies a person for a diagnosis of psychopathy. People with no criminal backgrounds normally score around 5. Many non-psychopathic criminal offenders score around 22.
My psychiatrist already says I am sociopathic. I plan on bringing this up with her at our next appointment to get the test done 'properly', though its a quite scary thought.

Kizzy 10-12-2017 02:29 PM

It's not scary Vicky, you function don't you? You have friends and love your family and kids you also have from what I've seen have a healthy response to social injustice such as the ATOS medicals and you empathise with those who wish to transition... You are normal!

It's those who float through life presuming they are these caring individuals who don their blinkers so they can't see the vulnerable suffer, or worse blame them themselves for their wretched existence ..:/

:hug:

smudgie 10-12-2017 02:34 PM

I think I scored seven altogether.
Maybe I was being kind to myself.

Vicky. 10-12-2017 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Christmas treeza (Post 9733389)
It's not scary Vicky, you function don't you? You have friends and love your family and kids you also have from what I've seen have a healthy response to social injustice such as the ATOS medicals and you empathise with those who wish to transition... You are normal!

It's those who float through life presuming they are these caring individuals who don their blinkers so they can't see the vulnerable suffer, or worse blame them themselves for their wretched existence ..:/

:hug:

OK given my endless posts on the topic, it may surprise you to find out that I do not really care that much about the ATOS medicals, except for when they apply to myself. So my sense of injustice about them is more as I have been told I am perfectly fine when I know I am not :S

Before I had personal experience of it, it did not really bother me that much aside from knowing that its a bad way to treat people who are ill.

Its easy for me to 'act' normal'. I know what I should be outraged about and such. But really, it only bothers me when its happening to myself.

So yeah :umm2:

Withano 10-12-2017 02:42 PM

Im not a fan of the PCL-R, oversimplifies something so huge..

This website will calculate your score for you though
https://www.proprofs.com/quiz-school...le=hare-pclr_2

DemolitionRed 10-12-2017 02:44 PM

Being a sociopath doesn't mean your dangerous. High functioning sociopaths tend to do well in life. Just because you have traits doesn't mean your going to act on those traits.

Vicky. 10-12-2017 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Withano (Post 9733400)
Im not a fan of the PCL-R, oversimplifies something so huge..

This website will calculate your score for you though
https://www.proprofs.com/quiz-school...le=hare-pclr_2

Yeah not surprisingly

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You got: QUALIFIED FOR DIAGNOSIS OF PSYCOPATHY

You scored high on this test and may actually be a psycopath. You do not feel emotions like the average person does and do not generally think out the consequences for your actions. Many people who score this high are in correctional facilities.
I guess it does oversimplify it somewhat though.

Though I did think, when I read the questions that surely they applied to everyone. Which it seems they do not :S

Vicky. 10-12-2017 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed (Post 9733403)
Being a sociopath doesn't mean your dangerous. High functioning sociopaths tend to do well in life. Just because you have traits doesn't mean your going to act on those traits.

Apparently most people in leadership are sociopaths. which isn't surprising :laugh:

Wizard. 10-12-2017 02:52 PM

Yes I thought you were when you bit my head off.

Withano 10-12-2017 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 9733408)
Yeah not surprisingly



I guess it does oversimplify it somewhat though.

Though I did think, when I read the questions that surely they applied to everyone. Which it seems they do not :S

Yeh it called me normal haha, I think I scored about 7/8ish so there is probably something to be cautious of Vicky, cos I'm a right nutta sometimes!

there are hundreds of apects to psychopathology though, a 20 question survey that says yes or no doesnt really help anyone imo, unless it says which psychopathological traits you might be prone to. I'm also wondering if the worst of the worst are completely aware of their personality traits? And whether people have the same idea of what counts as 'often', 'sometimes', and 'not really' cos who are we comparing ourseves to? I'm just not a fan of the survey, its broad af.

Tom4784 10-12-2017 03:06 PM

You got: QUALIFIED FOR DIAGNOSIS OF PSYCHOPATHY

Ooop.

Crimson Dynamo 10-12-2017 03:37 PM

result: mildly undulating, stony, bare soil, rocks

Classic cyclepath

Kizzy 10-12-2017 04:12 PM

Oldest....joke....ever...

Withano 10-12-2017 04:25 PM

I just googled and the oldest recorded joke (from 1900BC) was a fart joke, which made me sad about modern life more than anything else. Weve barely progressed in 3900 years.

Spoiler:

Loose translation
Something which has never occurred since time immemorial; a young woman did not fart in her husband’s lap.
I believe LT made that one too :fan:

Crimson Dynamo 10-12-2017 04:30 PM

whilst cylepath and psychopath is a well worn path the result: description and then punchline did merit posting

sadly i cannot be held responsible for poorly developed senses of humour.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...1e91f161b8.jpg

Marsh. 10-12-2017 04:31 PM

None.

I am too empathetic and empathic.

user104658 10-12-2017 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Withano (Post 9733515)
I just googled and the oldest recorded joke (from 1900BC) was a fart joke, which made me sad about modern life more than anything else. Weve barely progressed in 3900 years.

I find it sort of comforting really :joker:. It's like how chimpanzees and some other primates find "other chimps falling over" really funny and properly crease up about it... and here we are, millions of years of evolution later, and 90% of "try not to laugh challenges"? PEOPLE FALLING OVER! :hehe: It was also the main staple of "You've Been Framed".

Clearly large aspects of basic humour are instinctual and timeless and there's something sort of grounding about that :shrug:. Farts and minor injuries are just amusing...

Swear to god, I was having an awful day quite recently, couldn't pick myself up at all... then I saw this youtube video:



And the rest of my day was spent with a smile on my face and a spring in my step.

Matthew. 10-12-2017 04:34 PM

How do I take the test? Idk how

Amy Jade 10-12-2017 04:34 PM

You got: NORMAL


You scored as a normal member of society on the PCL-R test. You are goal oriented and enjoy bettering yourself. Unlike a psycopath, you feel emotions normally and care about others. You are not likely to be a danger to yourself or others.

Crimson Dynamo 10-12-2017 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthew Noelan (Post 9733526)
How do I take the test? Idk how

you have failed, sorry

user104658 10-12-2017 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mariah_Carey (Post 9733520)
None.

I am too empathetic and empathic.

They mean exactly the same thing :suspect:

Marsh. 10-12-2017 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Santa (Post 9733530)
They mean exactly the same thing :suspect:

:smug: It was worth repeating.

Cherie 10-12-2017 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 9733399)
OK given my endless posts on the topic, it may surprise you to find out that I do not really care that much about the ATOS medicals, except for when they apply to myself. So my sense of injustice about them is more as I have been told I am perfectly fine when I know I am not :S

Before I had personal experience of it, it did not really bother me that much aside from knowing that its a bad way to treat people who are ill.

Its easy for me to 'act' normal'. I know what I should be outraged about and such. But really, it only bothers me when its happening to myself.

So yeah :umm2:


that is what I like about you Vicky, you are totally honest and just human

DemolitionRed 10-12-2017 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Candy Cane (Post 9733566)
that is what I like about you Vicky, you are totally honest and just human

She's an honest sociopath?!?

user104658 10-12-2017 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 9733399)
So my sense of injustice about them is more as I have been told I am perfectly fine when I know I am not :S

Before I had personal experience of it, it did not really bother me that much aside from knowing that its a bad way to treat people who are ill.

Its easy for me to 'act' normal'. I know what I should be outraged about and such. But really, it only bothers me when its happening to myself.

So yeah :umm2:

This really isn't abnormal or unusual at all, though... you can be "philosophically outraged", I suppose. There are plenty of topics where I can see, logically, that something is unjust or wrong and I can be very vocal about it, might even "seem" annoyed or angry about it online, but it's different from being ACTUALLY annoyed or outraged. I'm not losing sleep over these things or, to be frank, giving them much thought at all as soon as the conversation is over :shrug:.

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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed (Post 9733595)
She's an honest sociopath?!?

That wouldn't be unusual to be fair, sociopaths aren't necessarily compulsive liars... only when it's personally beneficial to lie, or disadvantageous not to.

DemolitionRed 10-12-2017 06:13 PM

I did the test and apparently, I'm a saint! Seriously though these tests shouldn't be taken seriously, you can have many traits similar to sociopaths without being a sociopath.

The one thing that jumped out at me Vicky, is (on the other thread) you stated, when the counselor asked you questions, you answered them ‘truthfully’. There’s two different angles to what you said. 1. Why did you need to even tell us that you were ‘truthful’? That is indeed the sort of language a sociopath would use but then 2. Sociopaths are the masters of deceit and rarely answer questions truthfully, especially about 'how they felt'. One thing every psychiatrist knows is, never trust the words of a sociopath because they are pathological liars so they can remain one step ahead of the game. If you did answer ‘truthfully’ then surely it can only because you wanted a diagnosis?

DemolitionRed 10-12-2017 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Santa (Post 9733619)
This really isn't abnormal or unusual at all, though... you can be "philosophically outraged", I suppose. There are plenty of topics where I can see, logically, that something is unjust or wrong and I can be very vocal about it, might even "seem" annoyed or angry about it online, but it's different from being ACTUALLY annoyed or outraged. I'm not losing sleep over these things or, to be frank, giving them much thought at all as soon as the conversation is over :shrug:.



That wouldn't be unusual to be fair, sociopaths aren't necessarily compulsive liars... only when it's personally beneficial to lie, or disadvantageous not to.

I was remarking to the irony and anyway, I know Vicky won't be offended by that if she is a sociopath.

Beso 10-12-2017 06:46 PM

How ****ing long does this bastarding thing take to do...oh not long very pleasent experience.

caprimint 10-12-2017 07:52 PM

Think I only answered 'yes' to about 5

Vicky. 10-12-2017 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed (Post 9733620)
I did the test and apparently, I'm a saint! Seriously though these tests shouldn't be taken seriously, you can have many traits similar to sociopaths without being a sociopath.

The one thing that jumped out at me Vicky, is (on the other thread) you stated, when the counselor asked you questions, you answered them ‘truthfully’. There’s two different angles to what you said. 1. Why did you need to even tell us that you were ‘truthful’? That is indeed the sort of language a sociopath would use but then 2. Sociopaths are the masters of deceit and rarely answer questions truthfully, especially about 'how they felt'. One thing every psychiatrist knows is, never trust the words of a sociopath because they are pathological liars so they can remain one step ahead of the game. If you did answer ‘truthfully’ then surely it can only because you wanted a diagnosis?

Tbh I was not completely honest as in I missed out a fair bit, but could not see the point in lying totally? I don't know if that makes sense :laugh: I certainly lied in court..well. I had to speak to some woman about everything and she was the one to recommend my sentence. I burst into tears instantly, told her I was so sorry, didn't know what I was doing, felt so guilty and such. She believed me obviously. Got off with basically nothing. A few months of seeing a probation officer. I guess I felt kind of comfortble with my gambling counsellor. Plus at that stage I was getting quite curious about myself, as every week she was asking how bad I felt and stuff so it was obvious I was supposed to feel bad, I gave her the answr she wanted for about 6 weeks before I told the truth.

I kind of wanted a diagnosis when I first saw the shrink because despite saying I needed to see someone as I felt depressed and such my aim was to find out if it was true or if my counsellor was taking ****e.. I have actually lied to her about stuff but...she seems to know when I am lying? Its very strange as most people don't but most times she does pick up on it, not always, but most of the time. So now, she is literally the only person that I do completely tell the truth to..on the whole. Online I find it fairly easy to tell the truth and be blunt though, for some reason. In real life I lie about stupid things that don't need to be lied about, just for the sake of it. I will twist stories just to see the drama then if it comes back to me I will blame someone else, and be more convincing than them. I have actually tried to stop, and can manage it for a little while but I always go back. Despite all of this, I still have friends. I can be nice when I want to be.

caprimint 11-12-2017 08:47 AM

Vicky D:

Yeah based off of your online personality I'd say you're one of the most honest people on this forum

Crimson Dynamo 11-12-2017 09:05 AM

I Doubt A genuine psychopath would ever use a forum unless it was for a specific purpose to benefit them like getting money from someone

user104658 11-12-2017 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Isaiah 7:14 (Post 9734944)
I Doubt A genuine psychopath would ever use a forum unless it was for a specific purpose to benefit them like getting money from someone

THE REAL STORY BEHIND TRUTH'S BAN REVEALED : He started asking questions about that £20,000 Vicky "borrowed". :umm2:

Niamh. 11-12-2017 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Withano (Post 9733400)
Im not a fan of the PCL-R, oversimplifies something so huge..

This website will calculate your score for you though
https://www.proprofs.com/quiz-school...le=hare-pclr_2

You got: NORMAL

You scored as a normal member of society on the PCL-R test. You are goal oriented and enjoy bettering yourself. Unlike a psycopath, you feel emotions normally and care about others. You are not likely to be a danger to yourself or others.


Vicky you don't seem like that to me. While I was reading through the questions though a person I know in r/l came to mind that I would have said almost every question was a yes to :worry:

Cherie 11-12-2017 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChristmasNeeve (Post 9734965)
You got: NORMAL

You scored as a normal member of society on the PCL-R test. You are goal oriented and enjoy bettering yourself. Unlike a psycopath, you feel emotions normally and care about others. You are not likely to be a danger to yourself or others.


Vicky you don't seem like that to me. While I was reading through the questions though a person I know in r/l came to mind that I would have said almost every question was a yes to :worry:

:suspect: really..? :omgno:

Niamh. 11-12-2017 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Candy Cane (Post 9734983)
:suspect: really..? :omgno:

The quiz said so so it must be true :hee:

Vicky. 11-12-2017 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Santa (Post 9734946)
THE REAL STORY BEHIND TRUTH'S BAN REVEALED : He started asking questions about that £20,000 Vicky "borrowed". :umm2:

:joker:

Crimson Dynamo 11-12-2017 10:29 AM

You got: MODERATE

You scored a little high but are not a psycopath by any means. Many non-psycopathic criminal offenders score high in this range. You still feel emotions normally, just keep in mind that there are consequences for your actions and remember to think about the way other people feel.

:idc:

Crimson Dynamo 11-12-2017 10:30 AM

surely any self respecting psychopath would know who to score low on that test anyroad?

bots 11-12-2017 10:45 AM

a proper psycho wouldn't score themselves accurately anyway, that's one of the traits of being afflicted


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