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Crimson Dynamo 22-12-2017 05:53 PM

Princess Michael of Kent wears BLACKFACE Brooch to meet Meghan!
 
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/...3925473645.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/be/00/78/b...d-diamonds.jpg
  • Princess Michael of Kent wore controversial brooch to Queen’s Christmas lunch
  • Blackamoor is genre of art or jewellery showing men and women with black skin
  • Event was attended by Prince Harry’s mixed race fiancée Meghan Markle
  • One who spotted it said: 'Meghan meets the family and is greeted by THIS?’

Princess Michael of Kent has apologised after coming under fire for wearing a ‘blackamoor’ brooch to the Queen’s Christmas lunch at Buckingham Palace, attended by Prince Harry’s mixed race fiancée Meghan Markle.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...or-brooch.html

armand.kay 22-12-2017 05:57 PM

oh it looks good. Didn't know they're offensive. Hope it was a genuine mistake lol

bots 22-12-2017 05:59 PM

Did Meghan take offense or are people taking offense for her

Crimson Dynamo 22-12-2017 06:01 PM

Meghan was pleased she didnt wear the full SS uniform I guess

Cherie 22-12-2017 06:03 PM

The jewellery is portraying a black person not a white person with a black face though, how is that offensive

Jamie89 22-12-2017 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Candy Cane (Post 9747673)
The jewellery is portraying a black person not a white person with a black face though, how is that offensive

This is what I thought. I think the Daily Mail might have got it wrong though, apparently Blackamoor jewelry does have racist connotations (because they're linked to slavery) but I don't think it has anything to do with 'blackface'. I'd never heard of it either though so I could be wrong, that's just what I found from googling it just now.

Jamie89 22-12-2017 06:10 PM

Oh actually the Daily Mail doesn't seem to have mentioned blackface either :laugh: It's just you LT :hee:

Crimson Dynamo 22-12-2017 06:12 PM

say what you see

Amy Jade 22-12-2017 09:00 PM

I quite like it

Wizard. 22-12-2017 09:29 PM

Meghan probably liked it, probably reminds her of her mum.

Crimson Dynamo 22-12-2017 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mariah Christmas (Post 9747934)
Meghan probably liked it, probably reminds her of her mum.

:joker:

Omg

Northern Monkey 23-12-2017 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Candy Cane (Post 9747673)
The jewellery is portraying a black person not a white person with a black face though, how is that offensive

Exactly:clap1:

Kizzy 23-12-2017 12:36 PM

And the point that it is a representation of colonialist attitudes in imperialist Britain.

'Though full-lipped and somewhat broad-nosed, the African's facial features are partly Europeanized. Possibly based on a real individual, the London-based African model known as Wilson, the depersonalized figure calls to mind Van Ost's ‘Blackamoor’ and his kneeling position, which, as Kirk Savage and others have pointed out, denotes servility and deference.55 This was no doubt a reassuring and soothing theme at a time when fears of slave rebellion were widespread'

https://academic.oup.com/hwj/article/64/1/162/600955

Gusto Brunt 23-12-2017 12:45 PM

I don't know what her intention was but it's a strange brooch.

Even if it was of a white person...

Funny thing to wear... :confused:

arista 23-12-2017 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt (Post 9748251)
I don't know what her intention was but it's a strange brooch.

Even if it was of a white person...

Funny thing to wear... :confused:


Yes it from the past.
She has said sorry.

Crimson Dynamo 23-12-2017 12:58 PM

yeah kill all 19th century colonialists

:fist:

y.winter 23-12-2017 01:00 PM

How can a JEWELRY wear blackface? it's an object. If it was made black, than it's black.

Gusto Brunt 23-12-2017 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 9748256)
Yes it from the past.
She has said sorry.

It must be 200 years old. The brooch. Not her. :p

chuff me dizzy 23-12-2017 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 9747671)
Did Meghan take offense or are people taking offense for her

Exactly !

Jamie89 23-12-2017 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 9748140)
Exactly:clap1:

Quote:

Originally Posted by merr.y.winter (Post 9748259)
How can a JEWELRY wear blackface? it's an object. If it was made black, than it's black.

Noone's complaining about blackface to be fair, the thread title really does need changing as it's very misleading (I'm assuming that LT saw 'Blackamoor' - the company name, and perhaps misread it as 'blackface'?) I cant find any reference to anyone complaining about blackface.

The jewelry does have racist connotations for other reasons though and that's what the complaints are about. Personally I'd never heard of Blackamoor jewelery and I wouldn't have realised it was considered racist by some people, is it that widely known? I think it's reasonable to assume she just didn't know about it.

Smithy 23-12-2017 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamie89 (Post 9748378)
Noone's complaining about blackface to be fair, the thread title really does need changing as it's very misleading (I'm assuming that LT saw 'Blackamoor' - the company name, and perhaps misread it as 'blackface'?) I cant find any reference to anyone complaining about blackface.

The jewelry does have racist connotations for other reasons though and that's what the complaints are about. Personally I'd never heard of Blackamoor jewelery and I wouldn't have realised it was considered racist by some people, is it that widely known? I think it's reasonable to assume she just didn't know about it.

No LT saw a black brooch and wrote blackface for clickbait

Kazanne 23-12-2017 04:14 PM

I doubt anyone other than the people looking to moan about something ,even noticed Jesus some people ,maybe everything black should be obliterated then they would have to find something else,Oh I suppose Brown would be next,hide your brown sauces otherwise you will get called out.Ridiculous thing to moan about.:fist:

Crimson Dynamo 23-12-2017 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dancing in Blizzards (Post 9748383)
No LT saw a black brooch and wrote blackface for clickbait

Its a blackface brooch or am i looking at the wrong picture?

in sold a few in my time so i should know

Jamie89 23-12-2017 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Isaiah 7:14 (Post 9748395)
Its a blackface brooch or am i looking at the wrong picture?

in sold a few in my time so i should know

There isn't a single reference to it being related to blackface in any article I can find on it. If it's your opinion that it looks like it's blackface then fair enough but the thread title should at least reflect what the actual controversy is about since it's a 'news' section, rather than an opinion that is separate to that, otherwise people will be mislead into thinking the story is about something that it isn't, (which is exactly what has happened).
You've capitalised 'BLACKFACE' in the title even though it has nothing to do with the story, if it wasn't a mistake then I don't see how it can be anything other than clickbait.

Smithy 23-12-2017 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Isaiah 7:14 (Post 9748395)
Its a blackface brooch or am i looking at the wrong picture?

in sold a few in my time so i should know

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamie89 (Post 9748424)
There isn't a single reference to it being related to blackface in any article I can find on it. If it's your opinion that it looks like it's blackface then fair enough but the thread title should at least reflect what the actual controversy is about since it's a 'news' section, rather than an opinion that is separate to that, otherwise people will be mislead into thinking the story is about something that it isn't, (which is exactly what has happened).
You've capitalised 'BLACKFACE' in the title even though it has nothing to do with the story, if it wasn't a mistake then I don't see how it can be anything other than clickbait.

:hee:

Crimson Dynamo 23-12-2017 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dancing in Blizzards (Post 9748426)
:hee:

I like most often dont just copy and paste headlines from Newspapers because they are too long or too difficult for some members to understand so i like to make Tibb ones

Its a bit extra work sure but I know how members like yourself benefit from my media experience

:hee:

Smithy 23-12-2017 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Isaiah 7:14 (Post 9748430)
I like most often dont just copy and paste headlines from Newspapers because they are too long or too difficult for some members to understand so i like to make Tibb ones

Its a bit extra work sure but I know how members like yourself benefit from my media experience

:hee:

Usually if you make a thread I’ll take everything with a pinch of salt, because as this and other threads have shown, you’ll do anything for a reply :hee:

user104658 23-12-2017 05:50 PM

I think the fundamental misunderstanding here is that an actual black person's face = "blackface". To clarify for LT; blackface is, specifically, a NON black person "blacking up" their face to imitate... Actual black people don't have "blackface" :umm2:

As for the "unfortunate" jewellery choice - it would take A LOT of convincing for me to believe that she didn't know exactly what she was doing :idc:

empire 24-12-2017 04:10 AM

its not a racial thing, its more of class thing with the royal's, you have to understand that white upper class families don't marry for love, they marry to keep there wealth, keep the wealth keep the land, they have been doing that for hundreds of years and its kept them rich, but there parents of that class system don't show any real emotion to there children, look at princess Diana,Churchill,Prince Philip, and we hear what there parents where like, and Harry marrying for love is really rare in that class of structure, and there is some anger because why can he marry for love but I couldn't, and then there is the blue blood thing, and Meghan does not have enough of it to be accepted in the royal family,

Oliver_W 24-12-2017 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Isaiah 7:14 (Post 9747666)

I'm more concerned by her flashlight hat.

bots 24-12-2017 07:28 AM

The question really is whether it is her standard brooch or whether she put it on specially for the occasion. If it was specially for the occasion, what message was she intending to send

smudgie 24-12-2017 09:16 AM

She probably put it on to match her jumper.:shrug:

user104658 24-12-2017 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NanaChristmas (Post 9749259)
She probably put it on to match her jumper.:shrug:

So you're saying she's thick and ignorant, rather than passive aggressively xenophobic. Well... Certainly plausible I suppose!


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