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Jake. 06-01-2018 05:34 PM

India clashes with Ginuwine as he says he wouldn’t date a transgendered woman
 

chuff me dizzy 06-01-2018 05:37 PM

Not playing properly ?

Jake. 06-01-2018 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 9774275)
Not playing properly ?

It works for me?

Matthew. 06-01-2018 05:39 PM

Oh christ alive :notimpressed:
She can’t kick off every time someone says something that isn’t beautifully kind to her for ****’s sake. Get a grip India.

chuff me dizzy 06-01-2018 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jake. (Post 9774278)
It works for me?

Yes did for me when I clicked it the 2nd time ,Odd? I hope Malika called India a victim to her face, its time someone opened their mouth

Jake. 06-01-2018 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 9774283)
Yes did for me when I clicked it the 2nd time ,Odd? I hope Malika called India a victim to her face, its time someone opened their mouth

Oh yeah it normally does that with Twitter videos, unsure why

Jake. 06-01-2018 05:43 PM

The hole she’s digging keeps getting deeper

Northern Monkey 06-01-2018 05:44 PM

Acceptance is one thing.Expecting people to change their sexuality to make you feel like a ‘real woman’ is another.
Not many if any straight men would go anywhere near a transsexual.

chuff me dizzy 06-01-2018 05:44 PM

Watching it again I dont think India was there, no doubt off sulking for camera time somewhere

Gusto Brunt 06-01-2018 05:45 PM

Ginuwine's entitled to his view. :mad:

y.winter 06-01-2018 05:47 PM

She wouldn't let it go, won't she?

Vicky. 06-01-2018 05:47 PM

Ah about time men got it in the neck for not wanting to shag male people. Its usually lesbians who get this...

chuff me dizzy 06-01-2018 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt (Post 9774310)
Ginuwine's entitled to his view. :mad:

Dead right he is !

pontyboi 06-01-2018 05:51 PM

Damn why are all the interesting episodes broadcast on the lowest rated nights? Lol it's the curse of bb Saturday allways seem to have a huge fight or an ejection and nobody tunes in. Looking forward to this tonight.

Brillopad 06-01-2018 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 9774283)
Yes did for me when I clicked it the 2nd time ,Odd? I hope Malika called India a victim to her face, its time someone opened their mouth

The reason she is getting away with it is because she feels protected due to current PC. She thinks no one will dare criticise a transgender on TV.

Someone show her and the PC brigade that people will speak up.

chuff me dizzy 06-01-2018 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9774335)
The reason she is getting away with it is because she feels protected due to current PC. She thinks no one will dare criticise a transgender on TV.

Someone show her and the PC brigade that people will speak up.

Makes my blood boil !

Vanessa 06-01-2018 05:55 PM

India is seriously pissing me off. She's always offended :fist:

Vanessa 06-01-2018 05:57 PM

Malika has India sussed :clap1:

Vicky. 06-01-2018 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 9774305)
Acceptance is one thing.Expecting people to change their sexuality to make you feel like a ‘real woman’ is another.
Not many if any straight men would go anywhere near a transsexual.

Well yes this is exactly what it is. Expect others to effectively 'get over' their sexuality in order to validate an untruth you personally tell yourself. Sex does matter. Sexuality is about sex. Take as many huffs as you like, sexuality is not a choice or something one should try to get over to please you.

Northern Monkey 06-01-2018 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 9774319)
Ah about time men got it in the neck for not wanting to shag male people. Its usually lesbians who get this...

It’s sick trying to guilt trip people into who they should be attracted to.This India strikes me as one of those transactivists you’ve mentioned before.

Northern Monkey 06-01-2018 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 9774364)
Well yes this is exactly what it is. Expect others to effectively 'get over' their sexuality in order to validate an untruth you personally tell yourself. Sex does matter. Sexuality is about sex. Take as many huffs as you like, sexuality is not a choice or something one should try to get over to please you.

Totally agree.
It’s regressive thinking really.

Jamie89 06-01-2018 06:01 PM

It's become pretty clear to me that India's biggest problem is being unable to see things from someone else's pov, and see past her victim status. I understand her being upset but she can't dictate sexual preferences to other people, it's completely inappropriate.
I don't get the "I would never be attracted to a trans person" thing personally as you might not even know someone is trans, so it doesn't make much sense to me, but whatever, he's still entitled to that preference.

ethanjames 06-01-2018 06:02 PM

people are aloud to have preferences jesus Christ india. it must be hard to date if ur trans I get it but that doesn't mean u have to be an ass

Daniel-X 06-01-2018 06:04 PM

While I understand why India is offended, Ginuwine is perfectly entitled to his opinion. Her whole issue seems to stem from the fact that she's scared people still consider her to be a man, despite her transition. When in fact I don't think Ginuwine or anybody else for that matter is saying that India is a 'man', but she's reading between the lines and coming across as rather dogmatic and argumentative.

BBUK-Fan 06-01-2018 06:08 PM

Does India not realise everyone in there has their own opinions? She can't face somebody having a different opinion to her.

Gusto Brunt 06-01-2018 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 9774338)
Makes my blood boil !

She's very arrogant.

Vicky. 06-01-2018 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamie89 (Post 9774379)
It's become pretty clear to me that India's biggest problem is being unable to see things from someone else's pov, and see past her victim status. I understand her being upset but she can't dictate sexual preferences to other people, it's completely inappropriate.
I don't get the "I would never be attracted to a trans person" thing personally as you might not even know someone is trans, so it doesn't make much sense to me, but whatever, he's still entitled to that preference.

Well if we are honest, most times you can tell. Especially with transwomen. Transmen do tend to pass very well in a few cases but they still have vaginas, and if they do not, its still not a 'penis'

The likes of Blair White pass very well...male friends have said they do find Blair attractive facially and such but could not sleep with someone who has a penis, as they are not gay. Even with SRS, its not a 'vagina...its an inverted penis or bits of colon made into a hole. So its still different. So I definitely understand saying you could never go there sexually tbh. It does noone any favours to pretend neovaginas are actual vaginas.

-Sue- 06-01-2018 06:10 PM

Hmm India may have lost her D*ck but now she still acts very much like one!!! sheesh!!!

chuff me dizzy 06-01-2018 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt (Post 9774416)
She's very arrogant.

But turns herself into the victim in a heartbeat

Vanessa 06-01-2018 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 9774423)
But turns herself into the victim in a heartbeat

Malika has her sussed. I hope India gets a lot of nominations. She will flip :hehe:

chuff me dizzy 06-01-2018 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 9774439)
Malika has her sussed. I hope India gets a lot of nominations. She will flip :hehe:

They will all be transphobic !! Im sure she will get loads of nominations !!

Withano 06-01-2018 06:17 PM

Hi. Would you give a transwoman your bank account details

No

Im sick to death of this

Hi. Would you jump in a lake of piranhas for lil ole me

-Sue- 06-01-2018 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 9774439)
Malika has her sussed. I hope India gets a lot of nominations. She will flip :hehe:

:joker: oh yes I can almost hear the DR rant now ' CBB It took me 50 years.. blah blah blah... misgender... blah blah..' (distant sound of CBB person on the mic snoring! as they too have heard it all before) :joker:

Jamie89 06-01-2018 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 9774420)
Well if we are honest, most times you can tell. Especially with transwomen. Transmen do tend to pass very well in a few cases but they still have vaginas, and if they do not, its still not a 'penis'

The likes of Blair White pass very well...male friends have said they do find Blair attractive facially and such but could not sleep with someone who has a penis, as they are not gay. Even with SRS, its not a 'vagina...its an inverted penis or bits of colon made into a hole. So its still different. So I definitely understand saying you could never go there sexually tbh. It does noone any favours to pretend neovaginas are actual vaginas.

I'm not really sure on the ins and outs - pardon the expression - of the genitalia post SRS tbh, I was just thinking if in a situation where someone can't tell, and if their genitals did match (god that seems like a bad way of putting it :laugh: ), and where someone is attracted to them on meeting them and would want to date them (before knowing of their trans status), I know it wouldn't be a common scenario it just puzzles me why someone would completely rule that out as ever being a possibility is all. I totally defend someones right to that preference, I just don't really get it personally is all. (And although I believe India was in the wrong here with how she reacted, I can see how there might be a feeling of hopelessness when you hear something like that and how that might be upsetting).

y.winter 06-01-2018 06:30 PM

India is deep into this victim trip and she can't help herself out.

chuff me dizzy 06-01-2018 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by y.winter (Post 9774479)
India is deep into this victim trip and she can't help herself out.

She doesn't want to be treat like other women,she wants to be treat different !

Northern Monkey 06-01-2018 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamie89 (Post 9774473)
I'm not really sure on the ins and outs - pardon the expression - of the genitalia post SRS tbh, I was just thinking if in a situation where someone can't tell, and if their genitals did match (god that seems like a bad way of putting it :laugh: ), and where someone is attracted to them on meeting them and would want to date them (before knowing of their trans status), I know it wouldn't be a common scenario it just puzzles me why someone would completely rule that out as ever being a possibility is all. I totally defend someones right to that preference, I just don't really get it personally is all. (And although I believe India was in the wrong here with how she reacted, I can see how there might be a feeling of hopelessness when you hear something like that and how that might be upsetting).

The thing is.There’s more to being a woman even physically than just a vagina.
Softer skin,Women smell different,Less hair,Rounder hips,different frame,less muscularity.Men don’t just think “pussy” when they see a woman.

rusticgal 06-01-2018 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9774335)
The reason she is getting away with it is because she feels protected due to current PC. She thinks no one will dare criticise a transgender on TV.

Someone show her and the PC brigade that people will speak up.


This is her game. It's a shame really. I liked the look of her when she went in...I hoped she wasn't going to be a diva...but she has been just that.She is shallow and one dimensional and everything is about her and her journey.
She could have played this so differently...been mature and gained respect and represented the Transgender community better. She should respect other people's walk of life, add to debates and shown other sides of her...instead all she wants to do is talk about her transitions, her journey and make an issue about being called 'he' and making it all about her instead of trying to understand people around her accept her dramatic change.

AnnieK 06-01-2018 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 9774541)
The thing is.There’s more to being a woman even physically than just a vagina.
Softer skin,Women smell different,Less hair,Rounder hips,different frame,less muscularity.Men don’t just think “pussy” when they see a woman.

:clap1:

Vicky. 06-01-2018 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 9774541)
The thing is.There’s more to being a woman even physically than just a vagina.
Softer skin,Women smell different,Less hair,Rounder hips,different frame,less muscularity.Men don’t just think “pussy” when they see a woman.

Yes indeed. Another reason I find 'vagina fetishist' for someone who is attracted to real/natal/biological women only really ****ing awful.


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