Grown men sexually mocking a 70 year old woman
 

I thought their refences towards Ann and sexual practices that she may or may not have happen in the past was as low as they could go.

Did Dapper think it was funny? Genuwine creasing himself with laughing over it.

Dapper and Genuwine are crass individuals living up to their past reputations as disgusting and lewd.

When Ann sees this, how is she going to feel? She doesn't deserve this at all.

She'll survive.

Crossed the line for me.
It's one thing if you don't feel you need to respect someone but it's another to show such crude disrespect to a 70 year old virgin.
Disgusting:fist:

I don't think she'll care tbh, I think they'll be the ones who'll be embarrassed watching it back :laugh: Daniel should be thanking Ann, he's safe because of her AND she took a bullet taking control of the replace nomination. She deserves his respect for that, not just for being a 70 yr old woman.

Can’t say I cared

It was UTTERLY disgusting and I am not a prude. I HATE Daniel I wish he was still up and the others were AWFUL cracking up laughing at the disgusting stuff he was spouting. Sickening

Oh, I think Ann's heard a lot worse than this - and from more intelligent people in the past. She's got thick rhinoceros skin, so I doubt she'll give a flying fig, tbh. lol

It must hurt her as a woman though. She may take on all comers politically but this was very crude and personal.

Would Dapper like his Nan discussed in this way by a crude comedian for cheap laughs in front of millions of viewers.

This after Ann agreed to his immunity. Shows this man is surely the dregs.

Daniel is disgusting he is obviously showing a different persona to Ann, horrible

Whether Ann has rhino skin or not isn't really the point. It was disrespectful towards an elderly woman who'd done Daniel quite a few favours in the task. 0 respect for either man.

And this twat is safe :fist:

I actually like Daniel but you are spot on here. He let himself down badly with his vulgar comments at a moment when she deserved his loyalty and support.

I might be in the minority but up until tonight I actually liked Daniel but after he went in on Ann tonight I'm off about the only one of that small group I have time for is Jonny.

Johnny is OK, but Daniel makes me feel queasy.

I thought it was hilarious as did every single other person in the living room when Daniel made the joke.

A lot of prudish comments on this forum tonight when this is very tame for cbb imo tonight's episode was the perfect mix of laughter, relationships and extreme tension.

Hope it stays like this after tonight's task the dynamics have truly changed for the better.

All we need now is to get jon and Maggie out and the next few weeks could be amazing.

I nearly wet myself.

This.

Spot on Jamie really well put.
I've nothing to add to all you say.

Hardly fair though was it?

Ann had a lot to do with the change in the group dynamics change for the better only to be sexually ridiculed by these two oafs.

I am all for humour, but mocking an old lady for a cheap laugh over her imagined sexual behaviour is not funny or warranted.

If it was your Gran?

Haven't watched yet. What happened?

Daniel being vile as usual :skull:

Daniel delivered a perfectly timed of the cuff comment.

He and Ann won the task, Ann saved Danuel, then nominated Maggie and absolved Daniel of any involvement in the decision, then later he and G were mocking Ann sexually

Wouldn't expect anything less from those revolting LADS.

I totally agree with your summing up of tonight's episode. I thought it was excellent and am looking forward to seeing the change in the dynamics.

Ann has shaken up the whole house and was brilliant.

I'm a big fan of Ann 100%

But i also thought it was fine for Dan to make that joke tonight.

It's the kind of naughty joke you hear on BB and on BOTS all the time.

Dirty jokes make the world go round. Much better to be free to make them than to live in fear of censorship all the time.

While Ann herself would of course find it crude and vulgar etc, she would NEVER dream of taking away people's rights to make crude jokes.

Defending freedom of speech means defending people's right to be offensive, even when it disgusts and offends you. That's the game.

"What is freedom of expression? Without the freedom to offend, it ceases to exist."
Salman Rushdie

It's not about being "fair" though is it? this isn't celebrity mastermind it's cbb.

My gran would laugh tbh because it was clearly a joke.

I thought it was hilarious as did the rest of the housemates in the room as previously said.

Ann saved Daniel ? To put Maggie up? What a hot mess :bored: . Daniel doesn't deserve to be saved from eviction. I'm glad Andrew is still up ,not that it makes a difference with his huge fanbase.

Yes the two twats and Ashley who would laugh at anything Genuwine found funny. Do you honestly think Ashley would have found it funny if it was directed at her?

As you can read, there are many who take the opposite view to yours and your nans, it wasn't necessary or decent.

If the dirty joke was general about others, then your point is correct.

But it wasn't, it was personal and aimed to humiliate Ann in front of two idiots and millions of viewers.

There is a difference.

Am I the only one who didn't take offence :hehe: It was just warped humour. I am sure Daniel will regret opening his mouth, but he just has that humour where your mouth works quicker than your brain and even though it's funny with your mates, maybe X-million watching might not find it funny.

Ann has to stay and win this.

lol

she can take it

its what men joke about when they get together

Ann knows this and would not give two hoots

You have seen Ann's response to Andrews attempt to draw her into waxing his backside which she did not appreciate because she said it was aimed to embarrass and humiliate her.

Therefore, it is more likely that she would feel even stronger against this slur.

Because it may not offend someone else does not mean it would not offend her.

If you look up the definition of banter, it means playful teasing between two people. This was a sleazy put down when one party was not present which was meant to humiliate. This towards an elderly lady who has standards which matter to her.

You may not agree with her politics but she reached a place in the government of this land something far greater than this foul mouth with his sewer so called jokes which demean women.

These are no snowflakes but strong women saying if you demean women with jokes like these, you face consequences. I hope they chuck him out, see how funny he finds that.

Well of course the others found it funny as it wasn't aimed at them,plus they are crass to begin with,if it involves talking about sex etc they are all having fun, get some decent convos going on and they don't want to know,pack of idiots

It seems that the general consensus floats between "don't care" and "she can take it". Let's turn it round and imagine they were talking about India... or Courtney... God forbid anyone should laugh at them. But Ann's fair game.

Ridiculous double standards.

very good point. The thing that also marks daniel down is that he knows this is being filmed so it just can't be described as banter, because guys just dont do banter in that way. He knows Ann will either see it or be told about it

I've worked with men a lot... and I have more male friends than female. This is not typical of male behaviour, I know... not real men. And it saddens me when people are condoning it.

On the first night I kind of took to Daniel. He had a lot to say about how he had made a mistake and regretted it etc. etc. It didn't take him long to show the world he actually is an arsehole completely beyond redemption.

Really the mask didn't even make it through night 1 :laugh:

No! LOL... and he had me thinking he was in earnest... for about twenty minutes.