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Wizard. 23-01-2018 08:47 PM

The next minority being voted off
 
First they came for the trans. Then women. Now black people :( Malika next? Followed by Wayne and Shane J?

GoldHeart 23-01-2018 08:48 PM

I'm surprised Malika wasn't up for eviction tbh :shrug: .
I'm literally getting my updates from this forum and the cbb website . I couldn't watch it .

I knew G had no chance at surviving eviction ,his fanbase is poor :idc: .
Daniel is like a cat with too many lives :bored: .

I'm pretty sure bitch Shane J is safe AF , seen as he's in the final already.

Maru 23-01-2018 08:50 PM

Most of the cast is a protected class of some kind... being female really isnt a minority though? (Just caught that myself)

bots 23-01-2018 08:53 PM

the fact that the guy was a complete tosser had nothing to do with it of course

GoldHeart 23-01-2018 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 9816094)
the fact that the guy was a complete tosser had nothing to do with it of course

Daniel was a tosspot aswell but had more fans. I would of preferred Daniel to go but he's always saved no matter what :bored: .

Paula D 23-01-2018 08:55 PM

Ffs

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Shaun 23-01-2018 08:55 PM

Threads like this just play into the "PC GONE MAD :sleep: :sleep:" pack mentality on here.

Withano 23-01-2018 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 9816115)
Threads like this just play into the "PC GONE MAD :sleep: :sleep:" pack mentality on here.

They sound super snowflakey

Beso 23-01-2018 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riley. (Post 9816037)
First they came for the trans. Then women. Now black people :( Malika next? Followed by Wayne and Shane J?

What about amanda?

Underscore 23-01-2018 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 9816115)
Threads like this just play into the "PC GONE MAD :sleep: :sleep:" pack mentality on here.

so snowflake

OnikaChrist 23-01-2018 09:07 PM

I'm almost certain that Malika will be evicted in Friday's eviction :(

Lilac hills 23-01-2018 09:11 PM

Rasict sexist homophobic transphobic public at it again,,,,

Maru 23-01-2018 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Lilac hills (Post 9816241)
Rasict sexist homophobic transphobic public at it again,,,,

wtaf :laugh:

Amanda Barrie - Lesbian Female
Ann Widdecombe - Female
Ashley James - Female
Courtney Act - (Shane Jenek) - Gender-fluid(?) / Gay
Ginuwine - Black Male Minority
India Willoughby - Transfemale
Jess Impiazzi - Female
John Barnes - Black Male Minority
Maggie Oliver - Female
Malika Haqq - Black Female Minority
Rachel Johnson - Female
Wayne Sleep - Gay

Shane Lynch - Straight White Male
Andrew Brady - Straight White Male (Though that is up for debate)
Jonny Mitchell - Straight White Male
Daniel O'Reilly - (Dapper Laughs) - Straight White Male

4 out of 16 are not protected classes. That's 25%.

So there's at least a 75% chance, if anyone is voted off, they would be from some kind of protected group... and that's if you consider Andrew to still be straight

BTW, women are not a minority, they are statistically about half the population :laugh:

pontyboi 23-01-2018 10:23 PM

Blah blah blah....John was evicted because he talks and talks and talks and talks and talks and talks!!!!!

I now understand after watching his interview with Emma why the housemates all nominated him because they couldnt get a word in edgeways and that's why he was hardly featured in the highlights because when he talks I zone out as probably most of the country do.

It's not because he was black don't be some pc douche it's not a good look.

Jarvio 23-01-2018 10:24 PM

A bit of fuel for the OP:

The only ever white males to be evicted first in over 20 series of BB/CBB are Andrew Stone, Daniel Baldwin, Marco, and Grant Bovey. Not many is it?

Alf 23-01-2018 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jarvio (Post 9816624)
A bit of fuel for the OP:

The only ever white males to be evicted first in over 20 series of BB/CBB are Andrew Stone, Daniel Baldwin, Marco, and Grant Bovey. Not many is it?

Too many for my liking.

I like to see people like the OP triggered by nonsense that's not important.

Marsh. 23-01-2018 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 9816679)
Too many for my liking.

I like to see people like the OP triggered by nonsense that's not important.

And we like to see people like you triggered by nonsense like the OP that's not important.

pontyboi 23-01-2018 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riley. (Post 9816037)
First they came for the trans. Then women. Now black people :( Malika next? Followed by Wayne and Shane J?

Can we just address that a gay man, a transexual woman, a black man, a transexual man, a deaf man, a former prostitute and someone with Tourettes have all won big brother.

Jarvio 23-01-2018 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pontyboi (Post 9816692)
Can we just address that a gay man, a transexual woman, a black man, a transexual man, a deaf man, a former prostitute and someone with Tourettes have all won big brother.

And a blind man in second place

Ant. 23-01-2018 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maru (Post 9816357)
wtaf :laugh:

Amanda Barrie - Lesbian Female
Ann Widdecombe - Female
Ashley James - Female
Courtney Act - (Shane Jenek) - Gender-fluid(?) / Gay
Ginuwine - Black Male Minority
India Willoughby - Transfemale
Jess Impiazzi - Female
John Barnes - Black Male Minority
Maggie Oliver - Female
Malika Haqq - Black Female Minority
Rachel Johnson - Female
Wayne Sleep - Gay

Shane Lynch - Straight White Male
Andrew Brady - Straight White Male (Though that is up for debate)
Jonny Mitchell - Straight White Male
Daniel O'Reilly - (Dapper Laughs) - Straight White Male

4 out of 16 are not protected classes. That's 25%.

So there's at least a 75% chance, if anyone is voted off, they would be from some kind of protected group... and that's if you consider Andrew to still be straight

BTW, women are not a minority, they are statistically about half the population :laugh:

Im certain there are more Asian people than there are white people, are the whites the real minority?

Jarvio 23-01-2018 10:42 PM

It's kind of weird really because the majority of first evictees are female, yet on this forum females are always way more popular than males

Alf 23-01-2018 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9816691)
And we like to see people like you triggered by nonsense like the OP that's not important.

Giz a kiss

GoldHeart 23-01-2018 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pontyboi (Post 9816692)
Can we just address that a gay man, a transexual woman, a black man, a transexual man, a deaf man, a former prostitute and someone with Tourettes have all won big brother.

I doubt a black woman will ever win though :idc:
Think Shilpa was the closest and she was Indian.

But I don't care about the minority argument,as Ginuwine didn't have a chance . But John shouldn't of been back doored but whatever at least he made idiots realise he's not prejudice.

Ant. 23-01-2018 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pontyboi (Post 9816692)
Can we just address that a gay man, a transexual woman, a black man, a transexual man, a deaf man, a former prostitute and someone with Tourettes have all won big brother.

big woop ive got gay friends! the gbp are racist. ADMIT IT!

Ant. 23-01-2018 10:44 PM

-Wayne, Amanda and Shane J are all triple evicted-

Emma: so why do yall think you're sat here tonight?
-awkward silence before someone points out they are all el bee gee tee plus-
Wayne: well-
Emma: hereS YA BEST BITS AGAIN!

pontyboi 23-01-2018 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jarvio (Post 9816703)
And a blind man in second place

Clutching at straws dude.

Big brother has had the most diverse casting ever in reality TV history.

Jarvio 23-01-2018 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pontyboi (Post 9816722)
Clutching at straws dude.

Big brother has had the most diverse casting ever in reality TV history.

I was agreeing with you actually.

As in, second place is good.

Maru 23-01-2018 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lilbro (Post 9816704)
Im certain there are more Asian people than there are white people, are the whites the real minority?

I'm in a city that is majority minority, so actually, the majority is the minority... but white folk aren't considered to be a protected class here nor on the show, so it's not really relevant in that context :laugh:

In fact, it doesn't even matter if you are Asian and spent 99% of your life someplace where your demographic is mostly 100% of that population. As soon as you enter the US/UK, you are a protected class, your prior status in life is no longer relevant.

Robodog 23-01-2018 11:02 PM

This thread talks about minorities, or the 'groups' which the HMs belong to. This means seeing the HMs in a certain way.
Not judging the HMs as individuals, but judging them according to their 'type' or their 'category' (race, gender, sexuality etc).

This way of thinking is called collectivist thinking.

Collectivist thinking doesn't judge people as individuals, but instead judges everyone according to their type (their race, their gender, their sexual orientation etc).
Collectivists see all society not made up of individuals, but made up of 'groups'.

So instead of seeing John Barnes simply as 'John Barnes', collectivists would see him as 'a black man', or they'd see Ashley as 'a white woman', or see Shane J as 'a homosexual' etc etc

This type of thinking is a way of generalising people, and it usually comes with a judgement system for those generalisations, almost like a rating system.

So for example, 'racial collectivists' (such as the KKK or Black Lives Matter) would perceive then judge people according to their race, and would rate them accordingly:

Some people think blacks are the problem. Some think whites are the problem.
Some men are misogynists, some feminists hate men.
Jews, Muslims, Christians etc all have their divisions, their judgements of each other and their history of conflict.
Same with wars between nations.

It all comes from collectivist thinking.

Sometimes this collectivist thinking has good intentions, for example in order to have diversity people have to be perceived and judged not as individuals, but purely according to their racial type/gender/sexuality/religion etc in order to tick the boxes and meet the goals of diversity.

The irony being that, however well-intended, that is the same type of thinking as racism: to judge people according to their type and place them accordingly.

Is it healthy to see and separate us all off like this, to judge and rate us all in this way?

Is it not better to see us all as the individuals we are, regardless of our 'type'?

Surely it's better to remember the words of Martin Luther King:

"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
Martin Luther King, Jr.


Individual thinking or Collectivist thinking?

YOU decide

!

Jarvio 23-01-2018 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robodog (Post 9816764)
This thread talks about minorities, or the 'groups' which the HMs belong to. This means seeing the HMs in a certain way.
Not judging the HMs as individuals, but judging them according to their 'type' or their 'category' (race, gender, sexuality etc).

This way of thinking is called collectivist thinking.

Collectivist thinking doesn't judge people as individuals, but instead judges everyone according to their type (their race, their gender, their sexual orientation etc).
Collectivists see all society not made up of individuals, but made up of 'groups'.

So instead of seeing John Barnes simply as 'John Barnes', collectivists would see him as 'a black man', or they'd see Ashley as 'a white woman', or see Shane J as 'a homosexual' etc etc

This type of thinking is a way of generalising people, and it usually comes with a judgement system for those generalisations, almost like a rating system.

So for example, 'racial collectivists' (such as the KKK or Black Lives Matter) would perceive then judge people according to their race, and would rate them accordingly:

Some people think blacks are the problem. Some think whites are the problem.
Some men are misogynists, some feminists hate men.
Jews, Muslims, Christians etc all have their divisions, their judgements of each other and their history of conflict.
Same with wars between nations.

It all comes from collectivist thinking.

Sometimes this collectivist thinking has good intentions, for example in order to have diversity people have to be perceived and judged not as individuals, but purely according to their racial type/gender/sexuality/religion etc in order to tick the boxes and meet the goals of diversity.

The irony being that, however well-intended, that is the same type of thinking as racism: to judge people according to their type and place them accordingly.

Is it healthy to see and separate us all off like this, to judge and rate us all in this way?

Is it not better to see us all as the individuals we are, regardless of our 'type'?

Surely it's better to remember the words of Martin Luther King:

"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
Martin Luther King, Jr.


Individual thinking or Collectivist thinking?

YOU decide

!

Yup.

Positive discrimination is discrimination nonetheless.

Although I know I can talk because I always want a man out first, but that's just my personal OCD thing lol. Which has been caused by years and years of women going first, which eventually pissed me off.

Robodog 23-01-2018 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jarvio (Post 9816809)
Yup.

Positive discrimination is discrimination nonetheless.

Although I know I can talk because I always want a man out first, but that's just my personal OCD thing lol. Which has been caused by years and years of women going first, which eventually pissed me off.

Ha.

It's true.

We all do it though. Like cheering on our team.

But yeah it was ALWAYS a woman out first, that annoyed me too.
I remember the joy when Andrew Stone was evicted which was first time a guy went out 1st i think?

Wizard. 23-01-2018 11:23 PM

Wow this blew up I was just joking :joker:

Jarvio 23-01-2018 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robodog (Post 9816833)
Ha.

It's true.

We all do it though. Like cheering on our team.

But yeah it was ALWAYS a woman out first, that annoyed me too.
I remember the joy when Andrew Stone was evicted which was first time a guy went out 1st i think?

It was the 1st time in absolutely years. Chris Eubank and Goldie (CBB1 and 2) went first, but there was hardly any HMs in those series, like 6 each.

Andrew Stone felt like the first lol, it marked the end of an era for me, thankyou Andrew Stone

Robodog 23-01-2018 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riley. (Post 9816836)
Wow this blew up I was just joking :joker:

:joker:

Hard to tell these days !

You sounded like the real deal.

!

Oh well i was in the mood for a random keyboard rant anyway, and maybe someone will get something from all me cyber-waffling

:banana:

pontyboi 23-01-2018 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 9816709)
I doubt a black woman will ever win though :idc:
Think Shilpa was the closest and she was Indian.

But I don't care about the minority argument,as Ginuwine didn't have a chance . But John shouldn't of been back doored but whatever at least he made idiots realise he's not prejudice.

Why does it matter if a persons skin colour is black?

A winner should win due to their time in the house entertaining the nation.

Viewers are extremely scared they should be pro black or pro Indian, trans ect just sit back and enjoy their personalities.

Your post is everything wrong with people being over pc....you're judging others on voting out people who are a different culture yet you probably don't care but feel you should so jump on the bandwagon even though the 2 black housemates were evicted because they SUCKED!

Maru 24-01-2018 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riley. (Post 9816836)
Wow this blew up I was just joking :joker:

Pssh it's TiBB, everything here is a topic generator :laugh:

Alf 24-01-2018 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riley. (Post 9816836)
Wow this blew up I was just joking :joker:

If you want to joke on this forum, then use the "Tell us a joke" thread. We like misery round these here parts.

Miranda123 24-01-2018 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riley. (Post 9816037)
First they came for the trans. Then women. Now black people :( Malika next? Followed by Wayne and Shane J?

personally it wouldnt hurt my day if Malika left, she is a non-housemate, and thats nothing to do with the colour of her skin, more to do with her being on a scripted reality show with the Kardashian skin crawlers

I was sorry John went, Daniel should have gone, and I quite liked Ginuwine but Im amazed Andrew wasnt up, I would love to see him go before the final!

Miranda123 24-01-2018 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnikaChrist (Post 9816213)
I'm almost certain that Malika will be evicted in Friday's eviction :(

here's hoping zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

-Sue- 24-01-2018 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pontyboi (Post 9816890)
Why does it matter if a persons skin colour is black?

A winner should win due to their time in the house entertaining the nation.

Viewers are extremely scared they should be pro black or pro Indian, trans ect just sit back and enjoy their personalities.

Your post is everything wrong with people being over pc....you're judging others on voting out people who are a different culture yet you probably don't care but feel you should so jump on the bandwagon even though the 2 black housemates were evicted because they SUCKED!

great post :clap1: ty you saved me from writing a mini-novel response to a few posts in here lol


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