Ann is homophobic but her best mate in the house is a lesbian?
 

Explain this?

I think she tolerates Amanda as Amanda goes to bed early and doesn't mix with the younger ones.
I'd doubt,I don't know,but I'd doubt she really approves of Amandas relationship

Although,Amanda does not go on about It really.

wow I guess this makes up for all those times she voted against lgbt rights WOO :clap1:

The new "I can't be racist because my next door neighbour is black"?

"Best mate"

They've known each other 3 weeks. Sit down.

Which she had perfect reasons for

Homophillic queen

It was her free choice

No one should be forced to vote for anything they do not want to.

We live in a Democracy.

You missed out the words following to gain reaction like always

She has gay friends outside the house.
She has already said she wouldn't go to their weddings, that her friends understand her views on marriage.

Ann isn't homophobic she is just old fashioned and sexually repressed. Amanda doesn't roll around the house with her loins locked with one of the other girls. Any views she holds on gay rights are firmly in the religion camp and for that you'd need to sort the pope out.

She likes Amanda as does she Jess and ashley infact I do think she likes something in them all,she has never said she doesn't like anyone ,I dont think she is homophobic either as she didnt like PDAs from ashley and genuine and doesnt like it from Shane and Andrew which imo proves she is not as she is treating the two guys exactly as she did the hetro couple.

How does not agreeing with certain rights translate to being petrified of gays?

Nobody's saying she should be forced. But there's no use denying being a homophobe when she is.

Yes, it's my mission on this forum to "gain reaction" from the likes of you, that must be it.

She is good friends with Amanda to say she tolerates her doesn't do their friendship justice

She’s prude

She doesn’t believe in gay marriage

This has nothing to do with homophobia

Sorry if I've missed it, but what exactly was "perfect" about her reasoning in being pro-Section 28?

Only on TiBB

She doesnt believe in any marriage and the reason she voted against gay's being legal was to protect people high up from being blackmailed and ****

:rolleyes:

She doesn't think homosexuals are deserving of equality and the same rights as heterosexuals. This makes her homophobic. The definition of which is being prejudiced against gay people.

Obviously.

Every vote has a bad effect on someone no matter what you cant be a winner in every vote

Rubbish. She said gay marriage "alienated" her as a Christian woman.

She voted against gay couples adopting as she thought only married heterosexuals should be afforded that right.

Such a blanket term which ranges from the least like those who do not agree with it for religious reasons to those who commit heinous rapes and harm.

I think name calling makes those pointing the finger fell morally superior, for even the slightest of reasons.

Which is what marriage was invented for.

The whole marriage system is a mockery whether its between same sex or opposite

No. It's not a blanket term, it's fairly simple.

If you discriminate against a gay person simply because they are gay you are homophobic.

Pointing out she's homophobic because she does not believe and has said she doesn't view homosexual relationships "equal" to a heterosexual relationship is a fact. It's not name calling, it's a fact.

Whether that is for religious reasons or not, it is what it is.

I don't know what rapists have to do with the discussion tbh.

There is a post on another thread from a gay man, I suggest you read it.

So... what does it have to do with?

She doesn't "believe" in gay marriage (well, it exists so believe is a funny word) because she doesn't think they are equal to heterosexuals and that their relationships should be acknowledged legally. That's homophobia.

Bring it in. I'm not in the habit of being your errand boy.

But that's nothing to do with Ann Widdecombe, whose views we are discussing.

She didn't vote pro-gay marriage because she doesn't think they are equal to homosexuals. Homophobic no matter how much you change the window dressing.

Babe, you're on TiBB, there's a post in every thread by a gay man

She voted no

If she was homophobic she would have campaigned hard against it but she didnt

:joker: Exactly which is why she's clearly NOT homophobic , people just like throwing that word around :crazy:.

Lidl Ahmed & Kitten

That's got nothing to do with anything.

Not all votes are basically asking "Do you find Human A as valid and equal to Human B".

If she voted against the rights of black people to get married, that would be racist as she would be denying them rights other people have based on skin colour. So denying homosexuals the rights of straight people based on their sexuality is homophobic.

It really is that simple.

Ok first why does it have to be homophobia she’s obviously not scared of gays or hates them

Second a lot of people are traditionalists and like to go off of the dictionary definition of marriage, that it’s between a man and a woman. This doesn’t always equal ‘fuk the gays they’re not equal human beings’ do you think someone like Ann holds someone at lower estimation because of their sexuality?

No she holds EVERYONE that does stuff in that house at lower estimation bc she’s a prude, it’s nothing personal to the gays

I am a gay man. I'm 34. I would like to think I'm somewhat intelligent. I am far to the left politically and Anne Widdecombe and I have some very different views about the world.

But, I don't thing we need to be carrying out a witch hunt over an off the cuff comment she made. She didn't say I think gay people are disgusting. She didn't personally attack anyone. She didn't use any unwarranted language. She just said "don't be disgusting". With a sneer granted, but even if she did mean it as a horrible slight to all gay people.. that's fine! She is allowed that opinion! What she is not allowed to do is use that opinion to discriminate someone. To bully or hurt. Until she does that everybody needs to chill the ******* out.

:joker::joker::joker::joker:

What?

That's like saying "That man isn't a rapist, he was the woman's boyfriend, they lived together and they had sex every night anyway. Just because this one night she had a headache and he just carried on doesn't make it rape. You have to be smacked over the head with a bottle and beaten up in a dark alley by a stranger for it to be rape".

We'll end it here because your understanding of the situation is laughable.

Not to sound like a broken record or anything, but she was literally the architect of an amendment to try and keep Section 28 in place in 2003

So yeah, I'd say she's had a pretty active role in stuff like this

Thanks Cherie, I always suspected you were a gay man but I wasn't sure. ;)

In regards to the thread, he's right. Nobody can be judged off one remark made in an edited reality show.

We're, however, discussing Widdecombe as a public figure who's been around long before CBB. That discussion goes beyond discussing whether her "disgusting" comment was directly referring to them being gay.