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Lilac hills 28-01-2018 09:08 PM

You want a real role mode for lgbt?
 
Look no further than Amanda

Instead of getting people to be part of culty movements and demanding rights, Amanda teaches to just be happy and accept people for who they are and not trivial things, and be thankful to receive it back

Amanda went through a period of time where gays had no rights at all, Shane whines about people refusing to call him his drag name

lewis111 28-01-2018 09:09 PM

She's defending a homophobe though - someone who is an LGBT role model should be doing what they can to get rid of those views and educate people on why they are wrong and that's what Shane is trying to do

Crimson Dynamo 28-01-2018 09:09 PM

Shane J embarrassed himself tonight

And his 'Community'

Lilac hills 28-01-2018 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewis111 (Post 9831233)
She's defending a homophobe though - someone who is an LGBT role model should be doing what they can to get rid of those views and educate people on why they are wrong and that's what Shane is trying to do

Shane is trying to bulldoze people and not allow them to coexist

Amanda appreciates Ann for Ann and won’t incriminate we for views she held for 50 years of her life on fking cbb

Underscore 28-01-2018 09:10 PM

Not being funny but Amanda is hardly at the forefront for the fight for LGBT rights

Shaun 28-01-2018 09:11 PM

Nothing says pride like waiting until you're 67 to come out, after all

HBIC 28-01-2018 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Underscore (Post 9831248)
Not being funny but Amanda is hardly at the forefront for the fight for LGBT rights

exactly

I get Amanda fans are trying to find ways to make her look good but it's not working. LOL @ Amanda being a lgbt role model.

Denver 28-01-2018 09:11 PM

As She said he is making complaints about things in a country he has no rights in when she is the one married to a women and knows what the rights in the UK are.

The UK are years ahead of his country when it comes to equal rights

Crimson Dynamo 28-01-2018 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewis111 (Post 9831233)
She's defending a homophobe though - someone who is an LGBT role model should be doing what they can to get rid of those views and educate people on why they are wrong and that's what Shane is trying to do

Ann is a democraticly elected politician

Shane is a drag woman

Ann's opinions count like em or not, she put her neck on the line for democracy

Shane is a mouth on a stick

Jay. 28-01-2018 09:12 PM

i think i'll pick my own role model tyvm :love:

Amy Jade 28-01-2018 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 9831259)
Nothing says pride like waiting until you're 67 to come out, after all

I mean this :laugh:

lewis111 28-01-2018 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lilac hills (Post 9831244)
Shane is trying to bulldoze people and not allow them to coexist

Amanda appreciates Ann for Ann and won’t incriminate we for views she held for 50 years of her life on fking cbb

Amanda can do as she likes, but if we are talking about a true role model for LGBT people it cannot be someone who is defending a homophobe and trying to shut someone up for trying to educate that homophobe

Denver 28-01-2018 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 9831259)
Nothing says pride like waiting until you're 67 to come out, after all

So your trying to say an 80 year old lesbian should have less rights in her country then a foreigner who knows only tittle tat?

Natawho 28-01-2018 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 9831259)
Nothing says pride like waiting until you're 67 to come out, after all

This is the most ignorant and ridiculous comment I've ever seen, and for this place, that's a real achievement. What a ****ing stupid thing to say.

lewis111 28-01-2018 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 9831290)
So your trying to say an 80 year old lesbian should have less rights in her country then a foreigner who knows only tittle tat?

Yes that is the exact point Shaun was making there

Lilac hills 28-01-2018 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewis111 (Post 9831272)
Amanda can do as she likes, but if we are talking about a true role model for LGBT people it cannot be someone who is defending a homophobe and trying to shut someone up for trying to educate that homophobe

They’re not defending homophobia

Lgbt people Demand so often that people let them live as they wish

Yet Shane wishes to change someone’s perception and when this doesn’t work he isolates them

Amanda is as tolerant as others as she wishes to expect back, I think that’s highly noble

Shaun 28-01-2018 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 9831290)
So your trying to say an 80 year old lesbian should have less rights in her country then a foreigner who knows only tittle tat?

Adam I get that basic reading comprehension isn't your forte so I'll keep this simple: No I didn't say that. I said I wouldn't see her as "a real role model for LGBT".

lewis111 28-01-2018 09:17 PM

You can have your opinions on both of them but you can't seriously think Shane has been a bad role model for LGBT people, or less so than Amanda
He's talked about it so often and educate so many, all Amanda has done is try to shut him up

Underscore 28-01-2018 09:17 PM

Amanda has done nothing for LGBT rights in this country.

Did she campaign for LGBT rights at any point? No she just sat there like a lemon.

Crimson Dynamo 28-01-2018 09:17 PM

And it's LGBTQI

I think I heard him say tonight

Its like scrabble porn

Denver 28-01-2018 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 9831304)
Adam I get that basic reading comprehension isn't your forte so I'll keep this simple: No I didn't say that. I said I wouldn't see her as "a real role model for LGBT".

Why should a bully be seen more of a role model then an older woman? Literally sexism and ageism from you

Shaun 28-01-2018 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Natawho (Post 9831295)
This is the most ignorant and ridiculous comment I've ever seen, and for this place, that's a real achievement. What a ****ing stupid thing to say.

I'll try not to lose sleep over that, whoever you are.

Vicky. 28-01-2018 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewis111 (Post 9831272)
Amanda can do as she likes, but if we are talking about a true role model for LGBT people it cannot be someone who is defending a homophobe and trying to shut someone up for trying to educate that homophobe

She didn't do that. Shane was not talking to Ann about her views, he was talking behind her back to everyone else to try and get them to gang up on Ann. Big difference between trying to educate her, and trying to turn the house against her.

Denver 28-01-2018 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Underscore (Post 9831307)
Amanda has done nothing for LGBT rights in this country.

Did she campaign for LGBT rights at any point? No she just sat there like a lemon.

Why should she have too? She had to fight for her rights as a woman

lewis111 28-01-2018 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 9831324)
Why should she have too? She had to fight for her rights as a woman

She doesn't HAVE to but if you're going to be considered more of an LGBT role model than Shane you probably should have

HBIC 28-01-2018 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 9831324)
Why should she have too? She had to fight for her rights as a woman

if she hasn't done anything for the lgbt community then she can't be a lgbt role model

Kazanne 28-01-2018 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 9831317)
She didn't do that. Shane was not talking to Ann about her views, he was talking behind her back to everyone else to try and get them to gang up on Ann. Big difference between trying to educate her, and trying to turn the house against her.

Very good point Vicky

Lilac hills 28-01-2018 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by HBIC (Post 9831331)
if she hasn't done anything for the lgbt community then she can't be a lgbt role model

Yes she can

More so than Shane j he’s more detrimental to this community than good

Denver 28-01-2018 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HBIC (Post 9831331)
if she hasn't done anything for the lgbt community then she can't be a lgbt role model

What has Shane done for the LGBT rights in the UK?

Underscore 28-01-2018 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 9831324)
Why should she have too? She had to fight for her rights as a woman

You can't portray her as an LGBT role model when she has done NOTHING for LGBT rights. She's now benefitting from all of the hard work of activists and lecturing people trying to defend LGBT rights.

odd sock 28-01-2018 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9831309)
And it's LGBTQI

I think I heard him say tonight

Its like scrabble porn

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

lewis111 28-01-2018 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 9831317)
She didn't do that. Shane was not talking to Ann about her views, he was talking behind her back to everyone else to try and get them to gang up on Ann. Big difference between trying to educate her, and trying to turn the house against her.

I suppose so, but then Amanda should have used that as her argument instead of saying he isn't a platform for LGBT people or whatever she said and then go on to say that he doesn't have the right to challanges Ann's views

Lilac hills 28-01-2018 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Underscore (Post 9831344)
You can't portray her as an LGBT role model when she has done NOTHING for LGBT rights. She's now benefitting from all of the hard work of activists and lecturing people trying to defend LGBT rights.

What has Shane j done for lgbt rights other than whine about being called Shane instead of Courtney despite him not being trans?

AnnieK 28-01-2018 09:22 PM

Lol....I think amanda would be horrified to be considered a role model for anything. She seems very happy in her life and marriage and thats about it. At 82, I think her anything modelling fays are behind her.

Shane J was amazing in the first 2 weeks and did an amazing job at least educating viewers on his views about the LBGT community, I loved listening to him challenging India and Ann but now he is just going round bitching and almost trying to recruit housemates to turn against Ann which is not going to educate anyone. He needs to get back to his forthright ways and challenge Ann if he feels he needs to so his views are heard properly again

Denver 28-01-2018 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewis111 (Post 9831330)
She doesn't HAVE to but if you're going to be considered more of an LGBT role model than Shane you probably should have

But she is a role model to let everyone know you don't have to run the streets and shout you are gay from the rooftops every second.

Being gay shouldn't define who you are but Shane wants it to define who he is

lewis111 28-01-2018 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 9831342)
What has Shane done for the LGBT rights in the UK?

Why is it UK exclusive

poppsywoppsy 28-01-2018 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewis111 (Post 9831233)
She's defending a homophobe though - someone who is an LGBT role model should be doing what they can to get rid of those views and educate people on why they are wrong and that's what Shane is trying to do

Amanda embraces everyone. She doesn't want to educate, who said anyone wants Shane's education, he is as rigid in his views as Ann is in hers, that's why they clash.

How many times was he told not to keep on about Gay rights by Gay people and he totally ignored it and kept on and on.

A first class bore.

Denver 28-01-2018 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewis111 (Post 9831358)
Why is it UK exclusive

Because he is the one making a song and dance about Ann's past voting in UK votes

lewis111 28-01-2018 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 9831356)
But she is a role model to let everyone know you don't have to run the streets and shout you are gay from the rooftops every second.

Being gay shouldn't define who you are but Shane wants it to define who he is

No, he just isn't happy that people still believe he isn't equal to straight men and what's to change that and show that he is equal
Amanda is happy people think she's less than straight people because of how she was born

Underscore 28-01-2018 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lilac hills (Post 9831354)
What has Shane j done for lgbt rights other than whine about being called Shane instead of Courtney despite him not being trans?

He wasn't born in the generation that changed LGBT rights. Amanda was.


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