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Denver 28-01-2018 09:30 PM

Why does being LGBT have to define who you are?
 
Ive seen a few comments on her that every member of the LGBT community should campaign for equal rights.

But why should your sexuality have to define you? Why does it have to constantly be a talking subject? Why cant it be Something about you rather then who you are?

Cal. 28-01-2018 09:31 PM

It doesn't?

Lilac hills 28-01-2018 09:31 PM

Welcome to social justice! Everything has to have a label because feminism and lgbtqeheidjdnd owns the idea of equality

Denver 28-01-2018 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Cal. (Post 9831416)
It doesn't?

Its not what some posters have said tonight

Crimson Dynamo 28-01-2018 09:32 PM

It's all Shane J is

He has nothing else

Oliver_W 28-01-2018 09:36 PM

Being LGBT is a tiny, inconsequential aspect of who you are, I can never understand why people feel the need to make it one of their defining characteristics.

Jamie89 28-01-2018 09:42 PM

I'd imagine most people who don't have equal rights would want equal rights, surely? Not specific to sexuality, just as humans. Not everyone should have to campaign for them though, there's nothing wrong with showing respect for other people who campaign for them who have campaigned for them in the past though. The whole 'does it define you' thing, well no it doesn't but in terms of talking about equal rights it's other people who used sexuality to define and determine how lgbt people should be treated, so the 'being defined by' was imposed onto us and fighting for equal rights is a reaction to that and is actually a way towards no longer being defined by it and being treated the same as everyone else..

HBIC 28-01-2018 09:42 PM

because when that "tiny part" of you has been used to discriminate against you for so long, it becomes a big deal

Underscore 28-01-2018 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by HBIC (Post 9831503)
because when that "tiny part" of you has been used to discriminate against you for so long, it becomes a big deal

thanks for summing my views up.

Denver 28-01-2018 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by HBIC (Post 9831503)
because when that "tiny part" of you has been used to discriminate against you for so long, it becomes a big deal

Have you lived through the true discrimination though? because will tell you now the discrimination is nothing like it was

Oliver_W 28-01-2018 09:44 PM

Who in the BB house has been discriminated against for "so long" ?

Amy Jade 28-01-2018 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 9831516)
Have you lived through the true discrimination though? because will tell you now the discrimination is nothing like it was

Aren't you in your 20's? :suspect:

Denver 28-01-2018 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 9831529)
Aren't you in your 20's? :suspect:

Yes but im talking about when you use to be arrested for being gay and **** like that its pretty tame to how it was

poppsywoppsy 28-01-2018 09:46 PM

Get in line LGTB, equal rights for Pensioners, Disabled, Mental Health, NHS, and all the other groups under represented.

Daniel. 28-01-2018 09:47 PM

(morningafter)

Denver 28-01-2018 09:47 PM

Wayne and Amanda will now the real discrimination

Withano 28-01-2018 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by HBIC (Post 9831503)
because when that "tiny part" of you has been used to discriminate against you for so long, it becomes a big deal

This is kinda beautiful? In some sort of poetic way.

chuff me dizzy 28-01-2018 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by HBIC (Post 9831503)
because when that "tiny part" of you has been used to discriminate against you for so long, it becomes a big deal

Who discriminates against gay people ? its 2018 ffs, not 1918 .. get a bloody grip Im bored ****less of all the " Poor me " rubbish

chuff me dizzy 28-01-2018 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy (Post 9831541)
Get in line LGTB, equal rights for Pensioners, Disabled, Mental Health, NHS, and all the other groups under represented.

Hear Hear !!! sick of " gays have killed themselves" well for your information, so have people who have lost their homes ,jobs and DLA payments ,its not all about gays and their woes, others have problems too

HBIC 28-01-2018 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 9831579)
Who discriminates against gay people ? its 2018 ffs, not 1918 .. get a bloody grip Im bored ****less of all the " Poor me " rubbish

Quote:

More than one in five LGBT people verbally or physically attacked due to their sexual orientation or gender identity in last 12 months, figures show
That's in the UK.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7933126.html

chuff me dizzy 28-01-2018 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by HBIC (Post 9831589)

Rough sleepers and countless random people have been attacked too ,but they don't matter ? Get over yourself

Denver 28-01-2018 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by HBIC (Post 9831589)

Now pull up the stats for women, People of different race or religion, Disabled and you will see that there is less of a problem

HBIC 28-01-2018 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 9831597)
Rough sleepers and countless random people have been attacked too ,but they don't matter ? Get over yourself

show me where I said they don't matter?

Don't put words in my mouth thanks.

Lostie! 28-01-2018 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 9831579)
Who discriminates against gay people ? its 2018 ffs, not 1918 .. get a bloody grip Im bored ****less of all the " Poor me " rubbish

Yeah the stories of assaults on gay people and gay youths committing suicide because of homophobic bullying are nonsense.

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 9831587)
Hear Hear !!! sick of " gays have killed themselves" well for your information, so have people who have lost their homes ,jobs and DLA payments ,its not all about gays and their woes, others have problems too

How disgustingly callous.

Lilac hills 28-01-2018 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Lostie! (Post 9831607)
Yeah the stories of assaults on gay people and gay youths committing suicide because of homophobic bullying are nonsense.

Because a lot of people ‘don’t get it’ and need to be educated on what gay n all is

Do you think Shane pissing Ann off and turning the house against her is helping this cause?

Hes doing way more damage than good, especially since all there is about him are those stupid labels that he forces down your throat in every single interaction

lewis111 28-01-2018 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 9831599)
Now pull up the stats for women, People of different race or religion, Disabled and you will see that there is less of a problem

So people who are attacked or whatever for Brit LGBT isn't important because ethnic minorities or women have it worse?

Denver 28-01-2018 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by lewis111 (Post 9831625)
So people who are attacked or whatever for Brit LGBT isn't important because ethnic minorities or women have it worse?

No im saying they are not the most discriminated as being claimed

chuff me dizzy 28-01-2018 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by lewis111 (Post 9831625)
So people who are attacked or whatever for Brit LGBT isn't important because ethnic minorities or women have it worse?

EVERYONE matters,not just LGBT and the sooner this sinks in the better, why do you think gays are a special case and more important then anyone else ? Sheer bloody arrogance

Jamie89 28-01-2018 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 9831597)
Rough sleepers and countless random people have been attacked too ,but they don't matter ? Get over yourself

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 9831599)
Now pull up the stats for women, People of different race or religion, Disabled and you will see that there is less of a problem

Women, disabled people, homeless people, people of different race and religions etc are all groups that can include gay people :laugh: The point being made was that some people discriminate against others regardless of what other 'category' they might fit in to specifically because they're gay... as it was claimed that that doesn't happen. (Yes other groups get discriminated against too but noone was actually denying that that happens).

HBIC 28-01-2018 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 9831637)
No im saying they are not the most discriminated as being claimed

who claimed they are being the most discriminated against? go on, quote the post that says that LGBT people are the most discriminated against.

lewis111 28-01-2018 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 9831637)
No im saying they are not the most discriminated as being claimed

No one said they were the most discriminated against, but they still are so there still needs to be a movement and people need to talk about it

Oliver_W 28-01-2018 10:04 PM

I had a look at the Independent (lol) article. Not to trivialise what they went through, but at least half of the attacks are probably not to do with LGBT. I got mugged once, and it didn't cross my mind it was for any reason other than looking like I was an easy target who might have money in his pocket.

I take issue with people shouting words in the street being included as well.

Denver 28-01-2018 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by lewis111 (Post 9831644)
No one said they were the most discriminated against, but they still are so there still needs to be a movement and people need to talk about it

LGBT have a lot more rights then they realise within the UK

lewis111 28-01-2018 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 9831639)
EVERYONE matters,not just LGBT and the sooner this sinks in the better, why do you think gays are a special case and more important then anyone else ? Sheer bloody arrogance

Yes because everyone who supports LGBT equality doesn't believe in equality for ethnic minorities or women?
I know everyone matters! So do LGBT people!

TomC 28-01-2018 10:05 PM

delete

lewis111 28-01-2018 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 9831649)
LGBT have a lot more rights then they realise within the UK

Ok? They still face challanges that need to be brought up and talked about
I'm feeling your point here is no one can fight for LGBT right anymore because we've come a long way

chuff me dizzy 28-01-2018 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewis111 (Post 9831651)
Yes because everyone who supports LGBT equality doesn't believe in equality for ethnic minorities or women?
I know everyone matters! So do LGBT people!

Change the bloody record, its worn out now

Lilac hills 28-01-2018 10:06 PM

Ffs can’t we all just agree Shane j is a vapid bully and move on

lewis111 28-01-2018 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 9831660)
Change the bloody record, its worn out now

No, homophobia is worn out - this is the age of equality so you're the one that needs to change the record

Denver 28-01-2018 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewis111 (Post 9831656)
Ok? They still face challanges that need to be brought up and talked about
I'm feeling your point here is no one can fight for LGBT right anymore because we've come a long way

But they want things they cant have


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