ann wanted to bring the death penalty back
 

yikes! garbage! get ha out

God she's revolting :joker:

This thread is going to be full of people who have suddenly supported reintroducing the death penalty all their lives, I can tell

I agree

(and if not, "who cares, she's entitled to her opinion, it doesn't harm anyone except the people it would kill, at least she talks about things other than being gay", etc)

It would save us a few bob.

An eye for an eye then.

I want it back

Ann could want gays stoned being legal and you'd have her TiBB fans all of a sudden agreeing with her.

"Ann is in the kitchen, telling Shane L about how Katy Perry's Witness is a seminal piece of art"

"Ann telling it like it is as usual! :hehe: :cheer2: :dance:"

:laugh2:

Actually, never mind, she'd probably object to saying anything with "semen" in it

Yeah she doesn t care about all the corrupt judges and police officers or the miscarriages of justice.Same as she didn't care about the girls abused in Rotherham, about the children abused by Tories and the Establishment or about genuinely disabled people being pushed to early deaths by the current Tories.

:joker::joker::joker:

She wanted blasphemy laws brought back too.

Yaas Ann, Smite the heathens! :clap1:

The panic is setting in now as people see Ann racing for the winning line.

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The death penalty should be brought back!

Isn't it just :joker::joker:

I actually don't see that at all.
I think it may slip away from her now.

I support Shane J,I'm not panicking at all,if he makes the final or doesn't that's BB.
I'd love him to win but the celebs get their fee whether out the first week or if they are the winner.

It doesn't affect them or any of us.

I have voted heavily for Ann in the previous evictions,this one to get to the final I will put all my votes Shane Js way.

I would guess others may well be concentrating their votes on one housemate now too,rather than splitting them.

That may work in Ann's favour or not.
It worked for Shane J in last week's triple eviction for sure.

Yup, pretty much this. People have different views to me, shock horror. How awful.

Ann for Love Island!

I have noticed a big surge in the Ann hate posts tonight.

What has Shane J started. It is a witch hunt and is a damning indictment of his tactics. He could have won it fair and square but has gone about it by means which do him no credit.

It is only a game show but he has gone out to discredit Ann over historical political issues. He has shown himself to be less than honest himself.

There are certain crimes it should be brought back for.

It's stupid really and something that is motivated by pure malice rather than justice or even financial sense.

If we look at how the Death Penalty works in the US, it's actually cheaper to keep someone alive for the average lifespan in prison then it is to kill them due to all the processes and appeals involved.

Ethically, it's just state sponsored murder, a chance for people to let out the vileness within them in a 'safe' way. Bringing back the death penalty would a step back.

More beautiful posts from our Dezzy I see!

Except that that particular excuse is seemingly being used for everything Ann has ever said or thought, no matter how repugnant (again, hi Section 28! Hi conversion therapy!) to the extent that it's lost all meaning

Of course she's entitled to her opinions, but that doesn't mean her opinions can't be challenged or called out for being gross, outdated or yes, in some cases, homophobic

:hee:

I’m not even watching the series but the ‘entitled to her own opinion!’ argument and ‘she’s friends with Amanda Barrie!’ argument are boring me to tears. Hitler entitled to wanting an Aryan Race then? And because he was friends with one Jew all the claims are false? You can’t apply and remove the situation/person when the line of argument doesn’t suit you.

What is it about Anne and Shane J getting along together tonight that has upset you all.

Shane J has come to terms with her.

I agree with ann, it should be brought back, too many killers out there get a cushy lifestyle in prison, and its at are expense, its a slap in the face to the victims and there families, and its much cheaper to put a rope around there necks than to keep them alive because you get an over flow in prison if you give murders a life sentence, and you can't rehabilitate a cold blooded killer,

Wrong, it's certainly not the case in America in states that have not caught up to the times and if the Death Penalty were to be brought back it would most likely be modelled on those US systems.

The only benefit of bringing back the death penality is to allow people to engage in all their deep seated malice without hurting anyone.

I was wondering how long before we were Godwinned, surprised it wasn't sooner.

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I don't see that at all either,sorry.

It's always interesting to read other members takes on housemates.

However when celebs go in the house they have something usually people know them for.

Now Ann was a politician,until only a few years back.
With the influence and votes she got from being elected, how she used that influence and power,is strong stuff,not only to know her for but to gain an opinion on her too.

All she stood for then as now is Ann Widdecombe,it is her nature,her whole make up of what she believes and states as right and acceptable.

Of course.

IMO its getting a bit daft both ways here. Some of the fans are going OTT, and some of the 'non-fans' are going OTT. Its getting to ridiculous levels of hysterical now mind. Mind, this is usual for the last week I guess.

Well her and Shane J have sorted out their differences and have splashed around together happily.

So it's water under the bridge now, isn't it.?

This much is true. I reckon prison should really be total bare minimum stuff rather than what it is today.
But also, this is true.

Its a myth that its cheaper to kill people than it is to imprison them. As far as I am aware, but its not something I have ever looked into in too much detail.

There is also the added issue of...what if they are innocent. With prison, they can be released if this turns out to be the case. We have no way of raising the dead.

Though I have to admit that when certain crimes hit the press (usually paedophilia and child abuse/murder cases) I do have moments of wanting vengeance rather than punishment.

I think death is the easy way out for many though too. I know if I was ever convicted of life (actually meaning life...not the paltry out in 7 years rubbish) in prison for something, I would rather be killed.

You've probably never had anyone close to you murdered.

Yes she did say that in some cases. Specifically after the murder of two 10 year old girls in Soham. And in fact as a deterrant since the number of murders doubled within 5 years of abolishing the death penalty.

Personally I'm inclined to agree in cases of child murder.

But inevitably it is a bit more complicated than that because there are people who might be innocent.

It was a good highlights tonight and I agree,the last week needs more harmony and fun.

It was nice to see from both Ann and Amanda welcoming Shane talking to them.

My only criticism of Shane J, would be he should have gone to Ann direct,not bothered with the others.

Definitely it would be nice to think it is water under the bridge now, as you say.