Dressing as courtney and going on tv gives out what msg to little johnny from whereve
 

Cause im not very sure little jonny from wherever going out dressed like that is a very good idea.


Stay safe kids.

14 year old Jonny wearing makeup and a dress?

Why is it not a good idea?

SURELY you have to know what he means by that

Little Johnny can do as he wishes.

He would be slaughtered at school.

I firmly believe that you should allow a child to dress up how they like, allow them to express themselves. What's the harm in letting a little boy dress as a princess or a little girl as a pirate etc

Courtney just couldn't resist it, could she.

Of course Johnny is going to bump into Ann any day soon.

Maybe we should be teaching children to stand up to bullies and stereotypes instead of cowering from them?

We are talking 14yr old...

He is hypothetical

Never healthy to live your life in fear of what others might think.

The future Ann Widdicomb's in his class matter not.

It was to do with any young confused LGBT child, it has nothing to do with drag and Shane j even said that. Shane j is a great role model and positive example for any confused young child to show to them however they feel is perfectly ok rather than what Ann is saying

The issue should be how the children are raised to believe that someone should be ridiculed for wearing makeup and a dress

In high school an ex pupil would visit frequently, and he wore makeup. No one batted an eye lid, not anyone who was 11 or anyone who was 16.
Yes, kids will bully kids for being 'different, but that will happen no matter what they wear

And that changes Amy Jade' s point how exactly?

If I happen to have a child who feels they are trans or enjoy dressing up as the gender they are not I will fully support them to simply be true to themselves and not pander to fools who say it's wrong.

I agree, but going on tv and dressing up as a woman to send out a msg to 14yr old boys that its ok..well its not ok, cause little johnny isnt on a tv show..hes in his bedroom getting ready to hit the mean estates of basildon dressed as a woman for the first time.

But it is okay?

And telling everyone that a man dressing as a woman "is not ok" is really helping to change society to become more accepting of others?

Thankfully, the younger generations are raised a lot more open minded and are ever more accepting than the older generations. This will only improve as time passes. :love:

when did this forum become so right-wing...you don't even see posts like this on DS :conf:

It is ok to do it, but unwise and unsafe to parade about outside at that age.

But I don't see how it isn't?

A bb forum of all forums should be as left as it is right...and hardly political.:hehe:

I don't think Courtney was suggesting a 14 year old boy should dress in drag and strut down an estate late at night he was simply saying a person should have the freedom to dress as any gender they choose without anyone making them feel like they are doing anything wrong.

I agree with him and as I said, should I happen to have a child who is born male but wishes to dress as a female as it makes him happy I will be behind him every step of the way

It just seems a tad victim blame-y to say a kid would get assaulted for wearing something

Do you need me to spell out that he would end up either battered or emotionally scarred given time...little johnny can please himself but things in the real world aint all as rosy or as simple as courtney was saying tonight.

Oh god, obviously this. Idk why it needs to be discussed further. Johnny can do wtf he wants, and Parminion needs to stop bullying him at school.

Many kids and teenagers give 0-1 ****s these days. And if they do, then they'll be punished. Children like Jonny shouldn't live in fear of getting hit across the head by a homophobe, especially when he probably won't

Can't agree with that.

Look at how unaccepting the younger generation are of democratic results like Brexit or Trump. The cry like spoilt brats.

And don't forget the older generations were fighting for these same rights before you were a glint in the milkman's eye.

Shane isnt telling anybody how to dress, only you are doing that

Trump and Brexit, you mean those hate-free, accepting and positive current world events? :joker:

Ann was his example, he was talking about others like Ann who would judge and want to possibly suppress expression by someone,who wanted and felt the need to.

What on earth is people's problems here,that they would want anyone, younger or older to feel inferior or self conscious about themselves for just wanting to express,yes even publicly,how they feel and how they want to express same.


Honestly there seems to be a possible unhealthy obsession against freedom of expression which may include sexuality.
I can nearly just see possibly why there is an anti Shane J around possibly from that.

The possible judgements as to him and how he expresses him are really the thing most odd to me.
I don't think it's Shane J that has the problems and suspect issues,no way.

If hate is all you find, then that's maybe what you're seeking?

Yes, exactly. He's teaching them that it's okay to be yourself, even if that's different to the average person. Life would be so boring if people were all the same and people like Shane enrich our lives.

Yeah, Trump and Brexit bringing nothing but peace and harmony to the world, through which only I see hate.

Yeah, you're totally right there Alfred.

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Giving advice isnt telling someone..like i have said johnny can dress like he wants..so whats your personal issue mate...wanna take it to pm?

A wanna take it outside tea?

I have no idea what you just said...:shrug:

Oh God

Why read so much more into posts than they actually say.

Shane's full intention was to snipe at Ann again using some poor Johnny aged 15 to do so.

If it was not aimed at Ann, I could agree but it wasn't.

It wasn't even veiled tonight, I am amazed you couldn't see it.

Voicing disappointment at a result is not being undemocratic, it's called having an opinion, it does go against democracy to debase someone's opinion in an attempt to deny them it in the first place though.