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Sexuality
For me it shouldn't be the least bit surprising that people who are very orthodox would not want to keep hearing about other people's sex life(s)? I think that may be part of the Ann's dysfunction that people need to rub this in your face ever so constantly... she is at the very least a prude.
I had a family member that was staunchly anti-sex ("Men only want sex!", etc) after poor experiences with those topics growing up. They were alone and vastly unaware of the joys of the human touch and that humans can have good outcomes romantically. I think anyone who is repressed, they're not going to be a fan of the subject and anything that rebukes their sterile/innocent-minded perception of how human beings should behave will rub them the wrong way. I don't think Ann's problem is just with homosexuality, but with human contact and the concept of a healthy happy romantic relationship in general. She can't see past people's more selfish/baser motivators... she likely thinks it will always lead to sin in one form or other, and that things like even dancing can lead someone astray in a major way. Some Baptists are like this and that simple things like trying to get them to open up about their feelings or to dance, even sing would make them feel far too vulnerable... being in those situations are quite uncomfortable for them I think. |
She was a politician, she would have hired a gigolo or two in her day, I have no doubt.
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If any other housemate had said or acted the way Anne has in bob they would have been kicked out by now
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Bb not bob fgs
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Can't say dancing bothers her. She was in strictly after all.
I can see how she lives her life by her religious values, I can only admire her ability to do so. No way could I .:blush: |
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I agree with what you're saying but the problem with Ann I think is that it's not just a problem with hearing about sex lives when it comes to homosexuality. I don't think she likes hearing about homosexuality full stop whether it's sex being discussed or not. Like when she rolled her eyes at Shane mentioning his sexuality... he wasn't actually mentioning anything to do with sex or relationships, just general experiences in life relating to his sexuality, but sexuality isn't just about sex. I think her problem with homosexuality probably extends beyond just her prudish nature in general.
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I think you do Ann a miservice.
Who said she has to be how others think she should. She has shown she is very much her own person. She has cuddled a lot in the BB house. In her previous career, I doubt she ever cuddled anyone because it just wasn't done. This is a new phenomena, mainly with a younger generation, not hers. She has been totally removed from her comfort zone, made to co habit with people below her intellect and raring for a fight. She has handled them all. She hasn't sworn, lost her temper or acted in a way she didn't want. I honestly think she had the patience of a saint. If some of these housemates were out of their comfort zone, say in a care home environment with elderly people, they most probably would wak because they didn't have the stoicism that Ann has showed. |
It’s literally not about homosexuality she rolls her eyes at literally every intimate moment anyone has in that house
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i would say it's more of an "i'm bored and have heard/seen this before" eye roll. I can imagine her doing it in parliament until it became second nature
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She is her own person, and it doesn't fit within the paradigms of what are now considered social "norms" (which is all fictional in my mind). I do know some people who hate to hear about sexuality, and yes, that includes gender identity and sexual preferences. It's not the basis of which they view all of life, but for some it is the basis for which to determine how we are treated and should be treated as people... |
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Accept her as she is, an elderly lady who has lots of guts and has lived her life her way. Why analyse her, she is a product of her age. Ask yourself why you feel you must delve into her background for answers, why not take her at face value. I don't think she rolls her eyes at intimacy, she rolls her eyes at gratuitous exhibitionisms. |
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It's not just about homosexuality...she didn't like Shane L's 'farting' story. If Jess had told her about her sex on EOTB she would have condemned that too but I don't know that Jess has told her about that?...but Jess is aware that she would have thought less of her for it...and that's understandable. |
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Although I find her intolerance and eye rolling frustrating, I do think it has been lovely to see the way she has learned to accept and return affection from others. |
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Edit to add: Lots of gay people have experiences in life that are specific to being gay and that don't have anything to do with sex, and it's some of those things that Shane was talking about when she showed disapproval. |
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Ann equally doesn't like smutty talk and sexual closeness with heterosexuals...she is consistent though. However, she needs to be more accepting of human contact and affection from both. http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/index.php |
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I think Ann has benefited from this programme, the exposure to different characters etc. For example, I love her taking positive interest in Courtney's costumes :blush: Very sweet of her thinking of Shane's comfort wearing his costumes. And as you say, the hugging. She seems to overcome her objection to human contact. A lot of Ann's attitudes could be due to her lonely life and limited exposure to other lifestyles. With patience and intellectually rigorous debate I'd imagine she might be able to rethink some of her views. Some, not all of course. Her interpretation of religious teaching is probably not up for a debate, lol. Shane J is very patient and intelligent and he would be up to that task, but I doubt those two will have much time together after the show to talk. |
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I do think though that having sexuality tossed in the face of people who don't even like to have those very personal conversations out in the open is a quick way to get a negative reaction. I think that can very easily be over-read. :shrug: Quote:
And like you, the only real thing that "irks" me about her is the eyerolling. :laugh: But that's because her facial expressions can be quite rude to other people in the room... I don't like that she leaves that open to interpretation as she claims that she cares about her reputation. But you know, I've seen much ruder come out of other people on BB... it's not really that much when you compare her behavior to other people like freaking Bear. Quote:
She's tried to point out this contradiction (in her view) I think, but she's been more or less dismissed as a miserable old hag/homophobe. (By the way, I'm behind a little in eps, so if something has changed, I've not seen it yet) |
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Although I doubt a lot of her character and beliefs will ever change at this point in her life, I do think the experience she has had might make her reconsider some of her ways. Her recent discussions with Shane/Courtney about the costumes do perhaps indicate a softening of certain views, and her willingness to refer to Courtney as a separate entity to Shane perhaps shows some acceptance. |
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I have not actually delved into her background, I am only informally analyzing a family member when talking about her reactions to discussions of sexuality and her phobia to extroversion (edit). I've not mentioned eyerolls (before your post anyway). I don't know her background in full. Does any of us? Part of the fun of BB is analyzing the characters on the show. There's not much more to it than that for me. It's just a simple discussion. Anyway I am a Ann fan, so... https://media.giphy.com/media/1iZS5s...c9va/giphy.gif |
Why are people so obsessed with Ann's personal life and marital status ,who cares seriously :facepalm: .
I'm pretty sure regardless of your background whether you've had a partner or played the field ,you'd still roll your eyes at things in the BB house especially when you know the person stripping to his Speedos and jumping around is doing it for attention like a teenager when he's a 35 year old grown man !!! :bored:. And not everyone likes smutty talk or PDA in general ,what's the issue. Ann is who she is and she's not changing for anyone , and we know she gets fed up of people rambling on when they talk . |
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I actually think we could do with a new word (yeah I know, not another label :laugh: ) but in a similar way to how the current use of the word gender was introduced as a way of differentiating biological sex with the social constructs of it, I think a word that differentiates somebody's sexuality in a sexual 'who they are attracted to' sense with somebody's social experiences in life that have occurred because of their sexuality could be of great benefit. Because with the latter, it gets referred to as somebody discussing their sexuality but because this has so many sexual connotations with people I think wires often get crossed in conversations about it and peoples intentions get misrepresented. Just a thought really. |
I think what is disgusting is shane j and his thirst and how he lost all his judgement with Andrew
weak man no wonder he is a panto clown rather than a politician he has no balls like ann |
I chose who i like/dislike by their personality ,not skin colour ,sexuality,but an instant turn off and no no for me, is if they throw the race card or bleat on about how hard done by they are ,then Ive finished with them
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"Here we go again!" Not "I hate homosexuals" LOL |
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