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Mystic Mock 23-02-2018 02:22 AM

Your 10 most pointless TV characters?
 
Not your 10 worst characters, but who you feel personally if they left the show it wouldn't have much of an affect on the story? The show can be currently on air or finished, it doesn't matter.

Anyway here's my 10 most pointless characters.

1. Chloe (Stargate Universe)
2. Kala (Sense8)
3. Prince Charming (Once Upon A Time)
4. Lori (The Walking Dead)
5. Lloyd (FlashForward)
6. Olivia (FlashForward)
7. Ford (Stargate Atlantis)
8. Sasha (The Walking Dead)
9. Daryl (The Walking Dead)
10. Juliet (Lost)

As I've said it's most pointless not who you dislike the most, as my list would definitely have Spike from Buffy The Vampire Slayer on this list otherwise.:joker:

Marsh. 23-02-2018 02:37 AM

What was pointless about Juliet you heathen?

Mystic Mock 23-02-2018 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9886771)
What was pointless about Juliet you heathen?

Her main purpose was to function in that stupid love quadrangle between herself, Sawyer, Jack, and Kate, she just didn't seem to do anything else.:laugh:

Marsh. 23-02-2018 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 9886779)
Her main purpose was to function in that stupid love quadrangle between herself, Sawyer, Jack, and Kate, she just didn't seem to do anything else.[emoji23]

She was a main member of the Others.

She had more none quadrangle purpose than the DIABOLICAL KATE.

Until they butchered her in season 5 and made her a bit player in Sawyer, Jack and Kate's story before killing her off in the most cruel way without addressing any of her own plots or character. :bored:

The show really fisted itself in those last 2 seasons.

LemonJam 23-02-2018 05:24 AM

There's plenty of pretty pointless characters in Lost tbh (Nikki and Paolo, Miles, Mr Eko, Charlotte, Ilana, Libby off the top of my head) but Juliette is NOT one of them.

I always found Maxxie and Anwar pretty pointless in Skins and any storyline they did have lacked depth and felt like an afterthought.

Meg and Chris from Family Guy strike me as very obvious ones

Cal. 23-02-2018 06:31 AM

What was pointless about Lori?

She was a main character for the first 2 seasons of the show. The effect of her death is still reflected on characters today over 5 years later.

Mystic Mock 23-02-2018 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Cal. (Post 9886801)
What was pointless about Lori?

She was a main character for the first 2 seasons of the show. The effect of her death is still reflected on characters today over 5 years later.

Lori like Juliet is very loosely connected to the show that she was suppose to be on, she offered no humour to the show, no insight into how to survive against the Zombies, and no interactions with most of her cast, admittedly she affected Rick, but she didn't really change anyone else that much which makes her a pointless character in my book considering she was suppose to be the leading lady at that point of the show's run.

Mystic Mock 23-02-2018 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by LemonJam (Post 9886789)
There's plenty of pretty pointless characters in Lost tbh (Nikki and Paolo, Miles, Mr Eko, Charlotte, Ilana, Libby off the top of my head) but Juliette is NOT one of them.

I always found Maxxie and Anwar pretty pointless in Skins and any storyline they did have lacked depth and felt like an afterthought.

Meg and Chris from Family Guy strike me as very obvious ones

Didn't Libby know who Hurley was before they crashed onto the island? That makes her more relevant than Juliet imo who's story was mainly led by Ben.

Jamie89 23-02-2018 11:16 AM

Kim in 24 season's 2 + 3 was pretty pointless although I still enjoyed her in it.

user104658 23-02-2018 01:57 PM

Max and Billy, Stranger Things S2. Maybe they'll have a purpose in S3 or something? As far as S2 goes it was literally like they had been pulled out of some other 80's themed show and plonked down there for no reason :think:. Max created a small division between Dustin and Lucas but even that was totally unecessary and didn't affect the plot in any way.

Marsh. 23-02-2018 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 9886891)
Didn't Libby know who Hurley was before they crashed onto the island? That makes her more relevant than Juliet imo who's story was mainly led by Ben.

Libby was at the same mental institution as Hurley so that makes her more relevant than Juliet?

Despite Libby never having a centric episode, or actually involved in any plot line?

Juliet was a main player of season 3. She was active in the stories of 4 of the shows biggest characters and was the major death in the fifth season finale, which kicked off the final season of the show when she hit dat bomb.

Your argument has more holes than the outrigger.

Niamh. 23-02-2018 03:12 PM

I hated Lori but she definitely had a point in the show, she was what caused best friends Shane and Rick to constantly fight and power struggle and was the whole reason for that storyline over 2 seasons

Shaun 23-02-2018 03:51 PM

Never really given it much thought so I'll just think of some shows I like.

Frasier: Bulldog. Just a really one-note annoying character that didn't really have much emotional depth or growth (or rather, did once, but then Roz shot him down)
Game of Thrones: Samwell Tarly. So so so so boring and has never been interesting. Semi-rooted for him at the start because #TeamFat but oh god he's so wet and wimpy. Idc if he's integral with the books or whatever.
Breaking Bad: I can't really think of anyone from this because it's faultless :p but if I had to pick one, I'd say Lydia from the last season(s)... I liked her but can't remember anything about her storyline really.
Desperate Housewives: Every scene with Mike in it just bored me to tears
Westworld: I feel whoever I say here is going to prompt an essay from Lostie so I'll just bark the word 'Armistice' and run away (even though I think I love her?)

i'm bored now i cba with 10

RileyH 23-02-2018 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 9887152)
Game of Thrones: Samwell Tarly. So so so so boring and has never been interesting. Semi-rooted for him at the start because #TeamFat but oh god he's so wet and wimpy. Idc if he's integral with the books or whatever.

this is a bad opinion

Mystic Mock 07-03-2018 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9887090)
Libby was at the same mental institution as Hurley so that makes her more relevant than Juliet?

Despite Libby never having a centric episode, or actually involved in any plot line?

Juliet was a main player of season 3. She was active in the stories of 4 of the shows biggest characters and was the major death in the fifth season finale, which kicked off the final season of the show when she hit dat bomb.

Your argument has more holes than the outrigger.

Well Libby was a Mystery on a Mystery show, why she knew Hurley is more relevant than Juliet who away from the quadrangle was a secondary character in Ben's stories.

Mystic Mock 07-03-2018 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9887104)
I hated Lori but she definitely had a point in the show, she was what caused best friends Shane and Rick to constantly fight and power struggle and was the whole reason for that storyline over 2 seasons

But that story has nothing to do with surviving a Zombie apocalypse though?

Niamh. 07-03-2018 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 9908270)
But that story has nothing to do with surviving a Zombie apocalypse though?

It did for Shane

Mystic Mock 07-03-2018 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9908272)
It did for Shane

I always thought that Shane's path to insanity because of what he went through in the Zombie Apocalypse was his most important story imo, especially what happened to one of the Greene's in season 2.

Niamh. 07-03-2018 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 9908275)
I always thought that Shane's path to insanity because of what he went through in the Zombie Apocalypse was his most important story imo, especially what happened to one of the Greene's in season 2.

Yes but his path to insanity was very heavily aided by his and Loris relationship and it's affect on his friendship with Rick etc How you can say Lori was pointless when she was probably the most major catalyst for the storylines in the first two seasons is beyond me and like I said this is coming from someone who hated her character

Mystic Mock 07-03-2018 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9908278)
Yes but his path to insanity was very heavily aided by his and Loris relationship and it's affect on his friendship with Rick etc How you can say Lori was pointless when she was probably the most major catalyst for the storylines in the first two seasons is beyond me and like I said this is coming from someone who hated her character

Because Lori's story doesn't fit in with the show's story which is why I classed her as pointless.

She would've suited Desperate Housewives or Grey's Anatomy alot more.

Niamh. 07-03-2018 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 9908290)
Because Lori's story doesn't fit in with the show's story which is why I classed her as pointless.

She would've suited Desperate Housewives or Grey's Anatomy alot more.

The story is about people and their relationships as much as surviving the apocalypse, would be a pretty s**t show if every episode was filled with them battling Zombies

Mystic Mock 07-03-2018 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9908292)
The story is about people and their relationships as much as surviving the apocalypse, would be a pretty s**t show if every episode was filled with them battling Zombies

The show imo is suppose to be about what caused the Zombies to exist in the first place, killing any Zombies that get in the characters way, and of course trying to find a cure to destroy the disease once and for all, not who's in love with who.

Niamh. 07-03-2018 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 9908304)
The show imo is suppose to be about what caused the Zombies to exist in the first place, killing any Zombies that get in the characters way, and of course trying to find a cure to destroy the disease once and for all, not who's in love with who.

The show isn't about 2 out of 3 of the things you listed there though so no that's not what it's supposed to be about, it may be what you wish it was about but it isn't :laugh:

Lostie! 07-03-2018 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 9887152)
Westworld: I feel whoever I say here is going to prompt an essay from Lostie so I'll just bark the word 'Armistice' and run away (even though I think I love her?)

:joker: tbf Armistice was pretty minor for someone in the main cast but how DARE anyone say she's more pointless than Lee Effing Sizemore

Other big ones for me:

Daryl, The Walking Dead (sorry Daryl stans, he's been a glorified spare part hanging around for fanservice since season 4)

Tara, The Walking Dead (she was actually interesting when she joined but that feels like a century ago, Lord knows why she's deemed a main character and how she's survived this long.)

Deacon, 12 Monkeys (why on earth is he in the main cast yet Olivia isn't when she's 10000000 times more important?? But they actually referenced his apparent pointlessness in-show last season so I think it's intentional and he'll be significant to the endgame next season

Monty, The 100 (he's been part of the main cast for 4 seasons and I'm yet to see a reason why)

Will Scarlet, Once Upon a Time (he was a **** character in the spinoff but at least had a story and to pander to fanservice they brought him into the main show because he was for some reason popular and then... he did absolutely nothing and vanished when they realised they had nothing to do with the character. A bloody FIASCO!)

Also have to unfortunately agree with the suggestions of Ilana, Charlotte and Nikki & Paulo and Miles from Lost even though I loved them all. The first 4 only ended up pointless because they were bloody killed off too quickly. :idc: (although Charlotte's death was the catalyst for Daniel's crusade to change the past so she wasn't entirely pointless, but if being dead is your most important role in the story...), I'd add Frank too, his whole purpose was flying people places (which in itself was important for the story but he as a character was completely insignificant, he was just a function)

Nicky91 07-03-2018 11:54 AM

Game of Thrones: Daenerys ''miss way too many titles'' Targaryen, comes across in the show as really arrogant and spoilt, rightful heir to the seven kingdoms blah blah blah

The Walking Dead: Rick/Michonne's love story

Mystic Mock 07-03-2018 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9908308)
The show isn't about 2 out of 3 of the things you listed there though so no that's not what it's supposed to be about, it may be what you wish it was about but it isn't :laugh:

Any story about Zombies is supposed to have at least 2 of those things that I've listed, if they don't then they're a poor Zombie story and are false advertising themselves, especially when TWD in particular do alot of trailers showing the characters having alot of action scenes and villains to take on, and then when people actually watch the show in execution they instead get love triangles and other sappy romances that are written in a dated manner taking up large chunks of an episode, it's certainly not what the show was suppose to be about in it's inception, and I bet it's not something that the writers wanted but AMC forced them into doing with people like Lori's character being made into such a "big" deal with the screentime.

Niamh. 07-03-2018 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 9908310)
Game of Thrones: Daenerys ''miss way too many titles'' Targaryen, comes across in the show as really arrogant and spoilt, rightful heir to the seven kingdoms blah blah blah

The Walking Dead: Rick/Michonne's love story

Not liking a character doesn't make them pointless Nicky, saying daenerys is a pointless character in GOTs is even more absurd than Mock saying Lori was in TWD :laugh:

Mystic Mock 07-03-2018 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9908314)
Not liking a character doesn't make them pointless Nicky, saying daenerys is a pointless character in GOTs is even more absurd than Mock saying Lori was in TWD :laugh:

Well Daenarys is trying to get the throne and has had an 8 season build-up to try and achieve the main aim of the programme, which Lori never seemed to have an aim but hook up with a guy on TWD.:joker:

Niamh. 07-03-2018 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 9908313)
Any story about Zombies is supposed to have at least 2 of those things that I've listed, if they don't then they're a poor Zombie story and are false advertising themselves, especially when TWD in particular do alot of trailers showing the characters having alot of action scenes and villains to take on, and then when people actually watch the show in execution they instead get love triangles and other sappy romances that are written in a dated manner taking up large chunks of an episode, it's certainly not what the show was suppose to be about in it's inception, and I bet it's not something that the writers wanted but AMC forced them into doing with people like Lori's character being made into such a "big" deal with the screentime.

But it doesn't matter what you think the show should be about, it is what it is and her character wasn't pointless in that respect

reece(: 07-03-2018 01:31 PM

Lori AND Sasha pointless?

https://i.imgur.com/ICdHGI0.gif

Marsh. 07-03-2018 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 9908268)
Well Libby was a Mystery on a Mystery show, why she knew Hurley is more relevant than Juliet who away from the quadrangle was a secondary character in Ben's stories.

She wasn't though. The mystery never amounted to anything, and had no relevance to the show movimg forward other than giving her a connection to Hurley and she was killed after less than a season.

That's not more relevant than a 3 season regular who got the penultimate season cliffhanger and set the whole thing in motion with the bomb. :smug:

Nicky91 07-03-2018 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 9908318)
Well Daenarys is trying to get the throne and has had an 8 season build-up to try and achieve the main aim of the programme, which Lori never seemed to have an aim but hook up with a guy on TWD.:joker:

fair i guess, but i am annoyed with some of her scenes

RileyH 07-03-2018 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 9908310)
Game of Thrones: Daenerys ''miss way too many titles'' Targaryen, comes across in the show as really arrogant and spoilt, rightful heir to the seven kingdoms blah blah blah

No baby no

Mystic Mock 08-03-2018 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9908391)
But it doesn't matter what you think the show should be about, it is what it is and her character wasn't pointless in that respect

If TWD wanted to be Grey's Anatomy then it shouldn't have had the Zombies in the programme, it can't get credit for adding them in and then when people criticise the show for not handling them properly (on Social Media mainly) they can't then have responses like this because it encourages imo future shows to try similar gimmicks. Lori has nothing to do with the Zombie storyline (which whether the show likes it or not) is what most people tune in to the programme for, and is what people expect will be the show's main storyline, not love triangles, and certainly not this weird Biker Gang age that it's in at the moment with Negan.

But going back to Lori I think that season 2 tried the hardest to make her relevant to the programme with giving her more scenes with Dale and Glen, but they still was very few for my liking, and for the leading lady she should've been getting more screentime with these people but instead was just monopolised by Rick and Shane, she didn't even have that much screentime with Carl fgs and that was meant to be her Son.

Basically if the Show wanted some Drama in (which I do understand as it can help develop the characters) then they should've done it in a way that makes the character active with most of it's other characters, not just two people.

Mystic Mock 08-03-2018 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by reece(: (Post 9908415)
Lori AND Sasha pointless?

https://i.imgur.com/ICdHGI0.gif

Sasha imo was never properly developed, I didn't hate her character but I can certainly understand why the actress moved onto Star Trek: Discovery as her character actually gets development on that show.

Mystic Mock 08-03-2018 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9908416)
She wasn't though. The mystery never amounted to anything, and had no relevance to the show movimg forward other than giving her a connection to Hurley and she was killed after less than a season.

That's not more relevant than a 3 season regular who got the penultimate season cliffhanger and set the whole thing in motion with the bomb. :smug:

That's the show for you though it never answered anything.:laugh:

Mystic Mock 08-03-2018 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 9908420)
fair i guess, but i am annoyed with some of her scenes

Oh she was terrible last season, as was Jon Snow, but tbf I feel that they both have their own parts to play in the story.

Marsh. 08-03-2018 12:55 AM

So basically you're moaning because TWD is more than a "omg zombies" and actually drives the stories with characters which usually includes their relationships to one another.

It seems you're the one who doesn't get character development and drama.

Marsh. 08-03-2018 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 9909871)
That's the show for you though it never answered anything.[emoji23]

Except it did.

Mystic Mock 08-03-2018 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9909876)
So basically you're moaning because TWD is more than a "omg zombies" and actually drives the stories with characters which usually includes their relationships to one another.

It seems you're the one who doesn't get character development and drama.

I don't mind Drama (I've watched Battlestar Galactica, Game Of Thrones, and Sense8 fgs) but there's a difference with those three shows, their Drama elements have/was mostly on the events that was happening in the main plot of their programmes, where as can you tell me that TWD has developed the Zombie storyline past the season 1 finale? Because if you think they have then I'd like to know.

And also if you're gonna make a dig, at least know that you can actually do character development and Drama through your actual story than just making it into all about relationships and violence like TWD seems to only know how to do.


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