JK Rowling likes transphobic tweet
 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ansphobia.html

She's such a disappointment. And I don't buy her claim that it was an accident.

Well I suppose that's one way for her to take the attention away from her endorsing a perpetrator of domestic violence

People need to look a little deeper. Twitter doesn't allow that so you get ridiculous overreactions like this.

Oh what a coincidence that she's "accidentally" done this before.

You mean the domestic violence that police found no evidence of, he's never been charged for, the accusations the other party withdrew and engaged in a joint statement after getting the payout she was more concerned with?

There's nothing transphobic about that though?

I regret posting now, I see a repeat of the thread we had here only a few days ago. :joker:

If I were feeling charitable, I'd say she skimread the tweet, and was liking it to show support to the MP(?) who said she got yelled out when she was 18 and asked for a page three calendar to be taken down, and the accident was missing the "men in dresses" bit.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/20...1848103267.jpg

Yes, aggressively ordering someone to do what you want is definitely the way to go about it.

Where do they find these brainless idiots????

No, I mean the domestic violence that his own managers filed written evidence of in court and that is referred to when it states in their joint statement that she made no false claims for financial gain

"Written evidence" being her word and hers alone.

The written evidence was written and filed by his former managers, as I said in my post

Such strong evidence it led to zero convictions.

But, regarding the Depp scandal, it amazed me the people who spoke out against that (in the public eye) and yet would fawn over your Meryl Streeps and your Woody Allens.

And the fact that it was setted doesn't automatically imply innocence either

Also mmm that Meryl Streep sure is one of Hollywood's greatest monsters, she must be brought to justice

No, but innocent until proven guilty seemed to get forgotten in the little witch hunt that followed him.

I was referring to her being such an open supporter of the recent Time's Up and Me Too movements whilst simultaneously being a supporter of Roman Polanski, the child rapist.

What is it about social media that makes people go out of their way to check other people's likes & other activities for what their political affiliations are? I'm starting to think the connecting with other people concept is a bit of a scam, that what it often does is enable people to stalk & harass each other... tbh, TiBB has gotten like that too. There never used to be this fixation on accosting folk for not agreeing with each other on their particular views... I remember when there was the interacting and getting to know each other and stuff... now it's I need to know them so I can determine if they're my enemy or not.

It is dangerous. It's like agreeing with one poster on one topic spilling into another where you're accused of agreeing with everything that poster says/believes and people automatically assigning their opinions to you.

I'd say there's a difference between forum members and someone like JK Rowling, who has over 14 million Twitter followers and as such creates 'news' with every tweet she writes, retweets or likes... she's entitled to have her own opinions, write about them and like tweets about them, but once they're out in the open, there's a certain responsibility there that most of us don't carry

Also dangerous that within the click of a button, no actual words of her own people are assigning all manner of opinions as hers without her doing anything. :joker: Twitter is insane.

Yeah... I find it pretty disturbing actually. That someone would monitor and put so much emotional effort into analyzing someones particular views and motives... Twitter is the absolute worst for enabling these stalker types. Thankfully I can just deregister from there without it affecting my work... there's just something not right about the way people are carrying on on these sites.

She's a fiction writer though, not a legislator.

It sounds to me like the original tweet was probably referring to that labour mess where a trans person who hadn't go through the transition was made Women's officer which is quite ridiculous. Post op, I could understand that calling them a man in a dress is transphobic but if you haven't started transitioning then the term 'man in a dress' is quite....well....factual?

The trans community is cannabilising itself by attacking anyone and everyone that makes a mistake or says something ignorant whether or not the ignorance is innocent or not, people are just gonna push back against trans rights and such if it continues. People like the journalist quoted above by Marsh need to realise that you don't win hearts and minds by attacking people until they do what you say. Gay rights have come as far as they have, not through the gays attacking anyone and everyone but through education and understanding over the generations. in most countries where gay rights have been written into law, it wouldn't have been enough for just the gays to demand it, it's the allies that have helped push Gay Rights acts into law. Allies are vital and you don't create allies and dispel ignorance by screaming at people to do what you say.

Liked tweets can appear on the timelines of JK's followers, there's no 'stalking' involved

But regardless, she's still a high profile media figure who would use a platform like Twitter with that in mind... I can't imagine she wouldn't be conscious of the fact that anything she likes/retweets would be construed as an endorsement/reflection of her views, and when something relatively controversial slips through the net, then there would have almost definitely been a reason behind that

I'm not going to argue with your opinion. It is your opinion. However, I feel that this is a dangerous reflection of society when we can't have a simple disagreement on things without members of society resorting to mob mentality.

Liked tweets do appear in the feed, but it doesn't always start there. A lot of times it's a retweet and then someone jumps on board with the harassment campaign... and it is absolutely stalking when folk who are energized in this respect go out of their way to comb all media for occurrences of "injustices" in order to begin these campaigns... I often read threads below tweets and a lot of times, it's this type of tit for tat in every single comment and then those turn into stalking where those members go and check those commenter's profiles and go "Hey you like X... you must like X...", etc... I find that to be obsessive... it can't be just comments on the subject itself, it has to be on each other on the personal basis.

Yeah, there's definitely a line that can be, and has been, crossed many times in that respect, I agree... I think it's just, unfortunately, part and parcel of being so high profile, though, as if your personal opinions (or the public's perception of what your personal opinions are, based on the little they can get) automatically become public and subject to whatever scrutiny social media is able to throw at them

That said, the sooner she stops retroactively rewriting the Harry Potter books, the better

I agree. It's a little ironic we're having this discussion on a Big Brother website of all places. It's not like it's fans are angels and to a degree the show is literally about stalking our faves :laugh:... and celebrity does attract the obsessive/stalking types. Short version, I do feel like social media, Twitter particularly, has crafted their recipes from these overly-obsessive types. That instead of connecting all kinds of people, we're being encouraged to be little brands for ourselves and create bubbles around ourselves filled with like-minded folk... and inevitably that does engage the more ideologically obsessive personalities who take over and translate that sort of "fervor" for one's "crew" to fanaticism...

I remember watching Trump fuel his base on the idea of his presidential campaign many years ago and he had an energized cache of followers even then... never thought he'd even run, much less win, and yet here we are... so I understand why a celebrity who sees that energy feels they have to develop a sort of defensive strategy against it, with fear it may actually destroy careers instead of help make them.

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@ another trans drama :worry:

I think, unlike racism and homophobia, theres a lack of understanding as to what constitutes as transphobia. People seem to be unintentionally transphobic far more often than any ism or phobia before.

This entire subject is becoming 'All Too Much' apart from tedious - in my opinion.

That is because to a lot of.people this is a fairly new ism as its only recently come to the fore of the media etc. I completely agree with Dezzy that there appears to be a lot of anger in the trans community and that is having a negative impact at the moment. Shouting loudest doesn't mean you get heard. Educating people is the key, not vilifying. Transphobia will soon become as abhorrent to most as racism and homophobia if people are educated and understand. Being attacked for what are sometimes quite unintentional comments will only cause further alienation imo

Yeh I agree, I just dont think its entirely the same situation. Most people that needed the education back then were happily racist/homophobic because they didnt want to be their equal, nowadays people are unapologetically transphobic because they dont see how theyre treating them unequally.

(Making huge generalisations, obvs this doesnt apply to everybody).

Conversations seem to go
Thats transphobic
No its not, im not transphobic
Ok but thats transphobic language
No it isnt

Instead of
Thats racist
Yeah.. so?

Its much easier to educate the latter imo, you can educate stupid, but how do you educate stubborn?

i will never buy another one of Harry Potters books in protest of this outrage

There is nothing transphobic at all in that one, not even something that could possibly come across as transphobic.
Well said.

She made a perfectly valid point. Criticism of it sounds intensely sexist to me.

Ms Gwendoline Smith sounds very controlling with a hint of ‘I dare you’ in that message - almost menacing. Dare I say it - what a hypocrite.

and no trans dementors in her books?

a little too convenient in my book

vile hate filled woman

:bored:

As long as this total nonsence about non-transitioned men using female-only places is put to bed once and for all. Women will never accept that blatant double-standard.