Pensioner bailed after arrest over fatal stabbing of intruder
 

In Ireland
if a intruder commits a crime in your home
you can Kill him


[A 78-year-old arrested over the death
of an intruder stabbed to death
in his home has been bailed.
Named as Richard Osborn-Brooks,
the pensioner was held on Wednesday
on suspicion of murdering a suspected
burglar in Hither Green, southeast London.
He has been bailed until May pending
further enquiries, Scotland Yard said.]

https://news.sky.com/story/pensioner...ruder-11317362



2 Men broke in his home
One stayed downstairs
the Other criminal went upstairs.
Well done the 78 year old fella
reported as ramming a screw driver in the
criminal.

That criminal ran out in the street
and the other criminal got in his van to lift
him in. But failed to lift him up.
The Driver Criminal is still on the run


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:clap1::clap1::clap1: My thoughts EXACTLY Arista.

Why was the pensioner even arrested for that? In my opinion, the moment you force your way into someone else's home with ill intent, your life is forfeit, and if you don't make it out alive, well that's on your head friendo.

Its normal
until they find out all the facts.

At least he is on Bail , now

Bloody hell, that poor man. Well done to him though at 78 years of age to defend himself like that

Two burglars enter a property, one is armed with a screwdriver, a pensioner stabs the armed burglar whilst defending his home with his disabled wife inside...give him a medal for his bravery I say.

agree, this couple were targetted because of their vulnerability, no one breaks into the home of a burly bloke with a rottweiler at midnight. He should be paraded on a bus, no one breaks into a house armed with a screwdriver if they don't expect to use it.

He has been bailed now at least.

https://e3.365dm.com/18/04/1096x616/...20180405164305
H.Vincent ,37, Criminal with a long record
Now Dead.
https://news.sky.com/story/intruder-...olice-11317921
Police were after him for another old person home burglary

Again well done the 78 year old fella
protecting his home

I agree that this guy should not be charged with any offence ,he was probably really scared for his own life and that of his disabled wife,good on him I say,these criminals need a taste of their own medicine,you live by the sword ,you die by the sword.

Why is self defence different here than the USA?

Imagine going through the trauma of being robbed in the middle of night, and then having to go through the trauma of being arrested/getting thrown in jail for literally defending your own life

Absolutely ridiculous

Because they have the right for self-preservation in the USA.

****ing ridiculous this mind. The intruders could have killed him and his wife for gods sake! He is brave for tackling them, especially at his age. Should be getting a medal, not a record. I remember a story from a while back where some farmer dude had shot someone breaking in and was done for it. the law is ****ed up in so many places :(

Ohh that was like ten years ago, at least? I remember the dramatisations for the news etc made it look like the farmer was randomly shooting them down for no reason, and they were poor trapped fish in a barrel.

Yeah it was a long time ago..but it stuck in my mind because it was so bloody horrible. I would kill an intruder in my house in a second if I could. Especially with having the kids here.

You have the same right here in Ireland aswell. There was case similar to this one a few years back involving an elderly farmer who shot and killed an intruder and had to stand trial, they changed the law because of that

That may be the one I was thinking of..

He wasn't convicted though but he did have to stand trial. He shot the guy on the back though as he was leaving but the poor guy had been harassed by them for months

Are you talking about Tony Martin?

Yeah I think it might be that. I remember there was hell on about what 'reasonable force' is whilst someone is breaking into your house. I would say any force is reasonable in those circumstances

This is the case I'm talking about in Ireland and the reason our law changed https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.ind...-26349708.html

I was surprised Martin spent so long in Prison.

Err TBH Tony Martin is a very different situation - he shot a fleeing boy in the back for one, and more importantly, it was an illegally held shotgun.

This ^

That was a seriously fcuked up case. He was an elderly man who had literally barricaded himself into his house because he'd been broken into so many times.

if that guy gets a sentence for defending himself and his wife and home then there should be a public outcry for his release. No one has a right to go into ones home without invite and we shouldn't have to live in fear for our own lives. The amount of crimes in the area I live is making me seriously consider investing in CCTV. What a nightmare

A farmer owning a gun? Which he never actually did anything wrong with? Oh noes.

It was illegally owned because he had specifically been banned from owning them.

...Tony Martin wasn’t elderly ...he’s a local-ish guy, from Norfolk...I think he’s in his 70s now but that was all in 1999...as TS said, it was an illegal shotgun and he shot the younger burglar in the back as he was trying to get out through the window...he also shot them both in the legs as they were trying to flea as well..he had apparently ‘bragged’ that he would shoot their heads off or some such thing if any came again onto his property...anyways, he was later diagnosed Aspergers with paranoia tendencies ..so diminished responsibilities.and his sentence was reduced ...


...he was though found in possession of an illegal firearm again only a few years ago, I read...which is a bit of a worry with his Aspergers and paranoid tendencies...

...the prosecution said he had ‘prepared’ for intruders ..rather than ‘secured’ against them...

He’ll be charged, but very unlikely he’s convicted. I know someone that was in a similar situation, but he had to stand trial for Attempted Murder instead of Murder/Manslaughter as the intruder didn’t die. .

Good lad.If his wife was upstairs too and one intruder cornered him in the kitchen while the other went up near his misses i can see why he panicked.
If some arseholes broke into my gaff with my misses and kids in i’d stab or beat the **** out of them.

the burglars family are now saying he didn't deserve to die, and no he didn't and he would be alive if he didn't break into an OAPs house and terrorise them and try to steal their possessions.

The choices we make.
I could say I didn’t deserve to die if i went and tried kidnapping a bear cub with its mum hanging around....

No-one deserves anything, and if you force your way into someone else's home, anything that happens to you is your own fault.

Preying elderly and disabled people, scum of the earth

That's my thoughts there really, it's not that he "deserved to die", like you wouldn't give him the death sentence for it if he had been arrested... but, he made the decision to risk his life when he broke into someone's home so whether or not he "deserved it" is kind of a moot point. He's still responsible for his own death.

Someone who tries to run across a busy motorway "deserves" to die even less than a burglar, but it still isn't the fault of the driver that hits them.

Yeah pretty much. If you're breaking into someones house, a parent with kids upstairs etc don't know what your intentions are, you may just be thinking I'll steal their TV and make my way out or they could be some psycho who's planning on murdering you all in your beds, so what do you do? If my kids are upstairs I'd be making sure that person doesn't get back up again

True, the only reason I have a bit of an issue with the Tony Martin case is that it was proven that he shot people who were fleeing... which just doesn't sit well with me at all. It's an execution out of anger, not self-defense.

But if I heard something in the night and went out to find some bloke walking up the stairs, I'd sure as **** be kicking him right back down them and there's a pretty solid wall at the bottom :think:.

..yeah he did, Tony Martin..but he was diagnosed as Aspergers as well../..diminished responsibility...that’s not excusing but his reasoning wasn’t of ‘sound mind’ either...they were travellers I believe, he’d been having issues with travellers trespassing for a while ...and there were threats to kill him from the travelling community as well after the death....so it’s a complicated case which can’t be compared to the OP case....