Still no cull?
 

'The number of beds in homeless shelters has plummeted since the Conservatives came to power, despite homelessness having soared in the same period, The Independent has learnt.

Bed space for single homeless people in England has dropped by almost a fifth since 2010 amid government funding cuts and local council belt-tightening.

There are now significantly fewer places for single homeless people to go, despite the number needing somewhere to spend the night having rocketed. Since 2010, homelessness and rough sleeping have risen in every year.'

I know I get accused of conspiracy theories, but how is this anything else than a drive to rid homelessness not via support and services but literally freezing them out?...


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8303391.html

You come to this country with no fixed abode..you add to the countries homeless problems....one causes the other imo.

You have a point.

So tell me Kizzy do you expect the taxpayer to provide homes for all those young men jumping on trucks to get here who have no legal entitlement to be here?

"research by the charity Homeless Link"


oh dear

What exactly does the Labour mayor of London do again?

To be fair, there's a difference between providing homes and providing a bed and shelter from the elements. At the very least, no one should have to sleep literally on the street.

Careful, IMPARTIAL analysis of the hard FACTS behind slanted articles such as these will ALWAYS expose the utter B.S.

I was in Glasgow yesterday and all I saw were professional beggars

still idiots were giving them money

most homeless are not people seeking refuge from other countries. they are people from the united kingdom.

the cull is in full sing and all those who voted conservative must agree with whats happening.

There was a small organised crew up in Dundee when I lived there, the Glasgow ones are at least more competent than them.

I had the same girl ask me for bus fare to visit her sick baby in hospital two or three times a week for nearly 4 years. :think:

Oh and I also had two guys use the same story at opposite ends of the same street. That was sort of confusing because they also looked similar. Glitch in the Matrix :worry:

Sorry TS - They are grown men who are intentionally illegally entering our country and have no right to be here. We are under no obligation to provide them with anything other than deportation.

True

Yes every major city
has the same problem

i feel sad for all homeless people :(

what about people who pretend to be homeless to garner money from young people who think they are being charitable?

Britain has enough of its own homeless for it to be a problem. Shipping off foreigners won't make homelessness disappear.

maybe they are really homeless ;)

but you agree we should deport them?

Not really the point. They are illegal and should be deported.

We're not under any obligation but, in extreme weather (like we had in feb / march) at least trying to provide shelter to people who genuinely will be sleeping outdoors is surely the moral thing to do? I mean there's a pretty big grey area between "setting them up with a home" and "not letting a human being die in the snow".

In this thread it is the point. It's about homelessness, not immigration. Even if you deport foreigners, there will be enough British homeless for it to be a problem.

It would be a smaller problem though!

more churches should be opened to them; also heard some councils want to use empty shop premises.
But I wouldn't count on much, TS. The country and its people are going through a callous period at the moment.

Of course - but a smaller problem.

I refer you to every decade in history, there were always callous times

in some places it would, in some it wouldn't. depends, foreigners are not uniformly located around the country. either way, there would still be a problem, even if smaller.

Yes tory times...

This is their remit isn't it?
Nowhere in the article does it mention immigration and yet those fixated on it will use that as a default setting for which to push their agenda as seen here.

'The government’s Supporting People programme, which is a major source of funding for homeless shelters, has been cut by 59 per cent since 2010, Homeless Link said. At the same time, local councils have seen their budgets slashed by an average of 40 per cent.

'In the last year alone, 39 per cent of homelessness providers said their funding had decreased, while 38 per cent reported no change in funding over the past 12 months. Despite the escalating homelessness problem, only 15 per cent of providers reported an increase in funding.'

the issue is not that funding is not growing to meet the expanding number of homeless families and single persons but that existing funding is no longer ring fenced for purpose and so can be taken from that budget and used elsewhere leaving the local councils floundering as to how to tackle the rising problem.

I see your acceptance of this 'callous' period but could you explain to me why this period is so callous.. If it is not as I suspect a clear governmental strategy then what is it?

So how do you explain the mayor of london's inability to deal with the issue given that he is in charge of the london budget?

Jesus Christ :facepalm:

What should we do about the homelessness problem?
DEPORT ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS!!
But what about the genuinely homeless people?
THERE’LL BE LESS WITH THE IMMIGRANTS GONE!!

Jfc :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

Did you see the highlighted portin of the text pertaining to local council budgets?... Why are you focusing solely on the mayor for London there are mayors of towns and cities up and down the country facing the same issue.

Attempting to draw the focus to failings by Mr Kahn is odd seeing as the reductions in services have been ongoing since 2010, he has not been mayor that long.
By reinstating any funding there would have to be a reduction for something else somewhere else, my question was and is why the cut from central govt?

and how do you explain that BoJo promised to eradicate homelessness in London and he did ***** all?

I don't believe the Torys were in power for every decade no..

As for your last question if feels like being in the Head mistresses office so I will pass thanks :laugh:

Because none of them are any good!

I know.
But, hey, let's wait for Brexit to sort it. Some leading Brexit ministers already said that Brexit doesn't mean there will be less immigration. Some countries like India and China already mentioned that easing visa restrictions will be their condition in any free trade agreements.
So less Poles etc but more Hindus etc. But important thing is nasty EU will have no say, Brits themselves will open the border gates.

Basic maths! :facepalm: facepalm: facepalm:

Since when has 'mentioned' meant written in stone. : rolleyes:

let's wait and see then.

So you have no reasoning for your comment, no answer for my question in the OP, all you have is the statement you can't back 'every decade has callous times'?

Lets!