Should there be an amnesty for grown ups with no passports who were kids 30 yrs ago.
 

It shouldn't even be up for debate.
They came over as kids, parents worked here and contributed, they have spent all their adult lives here, as well as their childhoods.
Common sense should prevail.

Of course they should, but this is another part of operation undesirable. I must be otherwise as smudge says common sense would prevail.

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Brilliant, so legally she can't do what she wanted as per, so announces a u turn :joker:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8306841.html

I think it depends what they have done with their lives. If they have worked hard and mostly paid their way and have not been in any serious trouble they should stay.

Of course, it's illogical and cruel to send people back to a country they don't know when they've lived in the UK for most of their lives but it's what I've come to expect from the Tories.

Yes. Nothing more to add really.

Very pleased to see we are all on the same page.

I feel like there should be a fanfare or something. Surely this is SD first

This is a terrible injustice to the people involved. It shows up how impractical and broken our immigration system is. It simply does not make sense, it is weighted against genuine people with a genuine reason to be here.

Just to play devils advocate :devil:

While i think its fine for people who came here legally when immigration checks were less thorough to stay, there could be a number that came here outside the system, and I don't think time should affect their being rightfully sent home.

I think if you've lived and worked somewhere for 50 odd years you should be entitled to stay. There should definitely be a time cut off point when it's simply a done deal.

My wife's grandfather had to jump through a lot of hoops to get his British passport in his 60's (he is Irish) even though he moved here at about 20. But he had no documentation for Ireland either, and there was no record of his birth anywhere. A strange situation. They did eventually give him official British citizenship / a passport, though.

And of course, it was just because he wanted to be able to go abroad. No one was trying to deport him.

I hope the Human Rights legislation actually does something right for once to help these people.

Rules are rules

We live in a society.

Thank you for your support

This.

And sometimes rules don't work for society so they need to be looked at and amended if needs be

Would you say that in (insert any islamic country here) where the rules make life **** for lgbt people and women?

If these people do not have the documentation to prove right of residency then they should be removed forthwith, irrespective of how long they have been here. It is up to the individual to prove they have the right to stay.

It's the law.

Beep bop boop computer sez no.

said it so well and perfectly. no more to say. close debate !

Don't think it was deliberate?... Think again.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...ays-ex-staffer

The Guardian clickbait - no thanks!

Absolutely this.

There you go, the torygraph...Better?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...-2010-leaving/

Yes but it was infact 2009
New Labour instructed the home office
to destroy the landing cards
took a year to do it.

We found out Live on PMQs

And we know this how? It wasn't labour policy to create a the 'hostile environment' policy though was it?

The tories implemented this knowing these people may have no other identifying papers and that with their immigration plans this for me was a very distinct ploy to avoid paying these people who have worked all their lives a pension.

Correct
it was New Labour 2009
and Conservatives -LibDems
after summer 2010

Where is the evidence?... We only have mays word this was actioned in 2009.

Home office records
of course

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43806710

They had been stored in a basement for decades but Downing Street says the UK Border Agency approved a business case in June 2009 to dispose of paper records, including the cards.

The decision to destroy the cards themselves was taken in October 2010, after the coalition came to power. Mrs May was not involved in the decision, which was taken at official level, said No 10.

My guess is she's lying... where is this 'case' from 2009?

Lies, lies and damned lies!!

Downing Street said new information was coming to light about the handling of the landing cards all the time, which was why there was a discrepancy between information given out on Tuesday and Wednesday.

But a Labour Party spokesman said the government's story was "shifting by the hour".

"First Downing Street claimed the decision to destroy the Windrush-era landing cards was made by the Home Office in 2010 for data protection reasons. Then the Home Office passed the buck to a 2010 decision by the UK Border Agency.

"At PMQs, the prime minister tried to shift the blame onto the last Labour government but was undermined by her own spokesperson minutes later, who then stated it was an operational decision, which Labour ministers would not have been aware of. Her spokesperson couldn't even say when the cards were destroyed."

Jacqui Smith, who was Labour home secretary until replaced by Alan Johnson in June 2009, told the BBC that it was "not a policy decision she had made". Mr Johnson also said he "had absolutely no recollection at all of being involved" in the landing card decision.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43806710

I actually have a few friends who are worried as their families came at that time and none of them have ever applied for passports so are they right to be worried ? what a complete cock up this is.

Don't laugh at my edit - talk about dumb error !

Cue operation cover up...