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Brillopad 05-05-2018 04:02 PM

Owen Jones believes he represents the majority
 
https://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv...affic.outbrain

Can’t stand this jumped-up little twerp who has gotten far too big for his boots. I agree with most of this in that he needs to get real and stop thinking he is the ‘voice of the people’ - in his dreams!!

arista 05-05-2018 04:05 PM

Yes I watched that
the other week.

He wants Protests so he can report on it
to his paper

MB. 05-05-2018 04:15 PM

The irony of course being that Owen's views here do represent the majority, so much so that even Express readers agree:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...exclusive-poll

Crimson Dynamo 05-05-2018 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MB. (Post 9981571)
The irony of course being that Owen's views here do represent the majority, so much so that even Express readers agree:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...exclusive-poll

well yes if you consider a poll of 2,021 people to be "a majority" of anything...

Twosugars 05-05-2018 04:47 PM

people should erect a giant pyre in the middle of Trafalgar Square and burn a giant effigy of the orange twat
then maybe, just maybe, he gets the message and stops lying about Britain to illustrate his idiotic ideas about health service, racial integration and so forth

kirklancaster 05-05-2018 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9981579)
well yes if you consider a poll of 2,021 people to be "a majority" of anything...

Exactly L.T.

Trump is the DEMOCRATICALLY elected President of THE most powerful country in the world - a FREE country at that - who has been our biggest ALLY through thick and thin, and this being so, the mindless morons who are participating in these disgusting anti-Trump anarchic 'demonstrations' are DISRESPECTING the MAJORITY of American voters who elected Trump.

These sheep would do better to stay away and devote their time to researching the anti-Western, anti-Democracy subversives who are behind THIS and virtually EVERY other 'Protest' and 'Demonstration' in this country.

Do ANY of these wankers speak for US - the REAL majority? - NOT on your NELLY.

They are merely more PRO-ACTIVE and SHOUT more LOUDLY and more OFTEN.

It is high time the moderate silent MAJORITY in this country stepped up and made their voices heard to DROWN out these anarchists.

Twosugars 05-05-2018 06:31 PM

Trump didn't get majority, Hillary did. Trump got majority in electoral college which is different and undemocratic

Twosugars 05-05-2018 06:33 PM

And majority in the UK disapproves of him

MB. 05-05-2018 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9981579)
well yes if you consider a poll of 2,021 people to be "a majority" of anything...

I mean, this thread is based on the assumption that three Good Morning Britain viewers constitutes a majority, so yes

Kazanne 05-05-2018 06:52 PM

The majority isn't always right,there is only a majority as people who really don't know much about politics just jump on their friends or families bandwagon and follow the crowd .Trump is not lying about Britains knife culture as much as we try and deny it , we have one, we can say what we like about their gun culture so why not them about our knife culture? we should be able to take criticism , as for people moaning about his visit here,no doubt some protesters will show us up as always by being obnoxious and violent.

Withano 05-05-2018 07:01 PM

It’s not a stretch of anybodys imagination that the majority of Brits don’t support Trump. If people are angry about somebody suggesting this, I’d argue they’re over-sensitive.

Alf 05-05-2018 07:03 PM

Profesional penis.

Alf 05-05-2018 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Withano (Post 9981726)
It’s not a stretch of anybodys imagination that the majority of Brits don’t support Trump. If people are angry about somebody suggesting this, I’d argue they’re over-sensitive.

We love Donnie, because of the type of people he annoys.

Beso 05-05-2018 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 9981728)
Profesional penis.

I hate myself for knowing his name.

Withano 05-05-2018 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 9981730)
We love Donnie, because of the type of people he annoys.

This is one of the more logical reasons for liking him

Beso 05-05-2018 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Withano (Post 9981726)
It’s not a stretch of anybodys imagination that the majority of Brits don’t support Trump. If people are angry about somebody suggesting this, I’d argue they’re over-sensitive.


He has another 3 years to turn them round...like i said at the announcement of him winning on here....""""watch trump unit the world""""

That was me.....




Historic handshakes in year one n a bit....not bad.


Chinas getting on side...

Brillopad 05-05-2018 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 9981701)
Trump didn't get majority, Hillary did. Trump got majority in electoral college which is different and undemocratic

Irrelevant. He won a democratic election, whether or not some Brits don’t approve of their election rules, and is the current President. Like him or not he has every right to come to Britain without supposed adults acting like children and stamping their feet because they don’t like his views and can’t get their own way.

If the Americans want him out they can do so at the next election.

Brillopad 05-05-2018 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Withano (Post 9981726)
It’s not a stretch of anybodys imagination that the majority of Brits don’t support Trump. If people are angry about somebody suggesting this, I’d argue they’re over-sensitive.

That is not the same as accepting that as the American President he has every right to come here and the likes of deluded wannabes like Owen Jones won’t change that.

Withano 05-05-2018 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 9981744)
He has another 3 years to turn them round...like i said at the announcement of him winning on here....""""watch trump unit the world""""

That was me.....




Historic handshakes in year one n a bit....not bad.


Chinas getting on side...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9981748)
That is not the same as accepting that as the American President he has every right to come here and the likes of deluded wannabes like Owen Jones won’t change that.

I don’t understand how either of these things relate to my post. He suggested the majority of Brits do not support Trump. If we really think about this, he is probably right.

Alf 05-05-2018 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Withano (Post 9981754)
I don’t understand how either of these things relate to my post. He suggested the majority of Brits do not support Trump. If we really think about this, he is probably right.

Keep on topic, this thread is about Mr Muscle Jones, not King Donald.

kirklancaster 05-05-2018 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Withano (Post 9981726)
It’s not a stretch of anybodys imagination that the majority of Brits don’t support Trump. If people are angry about somebody suggesting this, I’d argue they’re over-sensitive.


How can you consistently keep misinterpreting what is being stated?

No ONE is 'angry' about anyone suggesting that 'the majority of Brits don’t support Trump' because that statement is pure B.S and I'd love to see your evidence which corroborates it.

You are CLEARLY confusing the tiny percentage of the viewing public who actually leapt to participate in the TV Poll and NOT the majority of the Great British Public - who did NOT leap up to participate.

The 'MAJORITY' of Brits do NOT really give two flying fecks for Trump one way or the other, besides which there is a gulf of difference between; 'Not Supporting Someone' and participating in disruptive, anti-Democratic, anti-Social 'Protests and 'Demonstrations' which ARE the reason for mine and others posts - NOT the reason you have erroneously given above.

Brillopad 05-05-2018 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Withano (Post 9981754)
I don’t understand how either of these things relate to my post. He suggested the majority of Brits do not support Trump. If we really think about this, he is probably right.

It doesn’t matter. Whether the majority of Brits support him or not, and your views as well as those of Jones are supposition rather than actual fact, the likes of Jones have no right to try and stop him.

He is a deluded anarchist who has the audacity to think he speaks for the majority on whether Trump should be allowed to come to Britain or not. Although no fan of Trumps - I’d rather have him than some of the other dodgy characters the likes of Jones are trying to foist on the rest of us.

Beso 05-05-2018 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Withano (Post 9981754)
I don’t understand how either of these things relate to my post. He suggested the majority of Brits do not support Trump. If we really think about this, he is probably right.

But the ones who support him still have a voice, no matter how much lame comediens try.

Twosugars 05-05-2018 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9981745)
Irrelevant. He won a democratic election, whether or not some Brits don’t approve of their election rules, and is the current President. Like him or not he has every right to come to Britain without supposed adults acting like children and stamping their feet because they don’t like his views and can’t get their own way.

If the Americans want him out they can do so at the next election.

And people here have a right to disagree. Remember giant march against bush visit? Protests against the Chinese President?
Not to mention that speaker of British parliament refused to have trump put a foot inside the building
It is our democratic right to protest p

kirklancaster 05-05-2018 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 9981785)
And people here have a right to disagree. Remember giant march against bush visit? Protests against the Chinese President?
Not to mention that speaker of British parliament refused to have trump put a foot inside the building
It is our democratic right to protest p

Protest about WHAT though? And this is a genuine question.

Beso 05-05-2018 08:00 PM

If the speaker is bercow? It means zilch.

Beso 05-05-2018 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kirklancaster (Post 9981787)
Protest about WHAT though? And this is a genuine question.

The worlds women need someone to shake a handbag at and the worlds sad desperate, ever to be single males need a purpose....or as we say in scotland...." ah might get a sniff if ah gan"

MTVN 05-05-2018 08:16 PM

Owen is a joke

Withano 05-05-2018 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 9981756)
Keep on topic, this thread is about Mr Muscle Jones, not King Donald.

My post was about Jones, keep up lad
Quote:

Originally Posted by kirklancaster (Post 9981767)
How can you consistently keep misinterpreting what is being stated?

No ONE is 'angry' about anyone suggesting that 'the majority of Brits don’t support Trump' because that statement is pure B.S and I'd love to see your evidence which corroborates it.

You are CLEARLY confusing the tiny percentage of the viewing public who actually leapt to participate in the TV Poll and NOT the majority of the Great British Public - who did NOT leap up to participate.

The 'MAJORITY' of Brits do NOT really give two flying fecks for Trump one way or the other, besides which there is a gulf of difference between; 'Not Supporting Someone' and participating in disruptive, anti-Democratic, anti-Social 'Protests and 'Demonstrations' which ARE the reason for mine and others posts - NOT the reason you have erroneously given above.

I refuse to read your lengthy posts with random capitals in, the random capitals do my nut in. Can you please stop using them in conversation with me
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9981769)
It doesn’t matter. Whether the majority of Brits support him or not, and your views as well as those of Jones are supposition rather than actual fact, the likes of Jones have no right to try and stop him.

He is a deluded anarchist who has the audacity to think he speaks for the majority on whether Trump should be allowed to come to Britain or not. Although no fan of Trumps - I’d rather have him than some of the other dodgy characters the likes of Jones are trying to foist on the rest of us.

At the first paragraph, I agree, its an educated guess, yes
At the second para, you better reread your own link
Quote:

At the end of the day, if he comes - no one is saying he should be barred from the country by legal means
Quote:

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 9981778)
But the ones who support him still have a voice, no matter how much lame comediens try.

True, I dont get how this is relevant to any of my posts either though

Brillopad 05-05-2018 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 9981785)
And people here have a right to disagree. Remember giant march against bush visit? Protests against the Chinese President?
Not to mention that speaker of British parliament refused to have trump put a foot inside the building
It is our democratic right to protest p

Is that the parliamentary speaker currently accused of bullying you speak of!

Twosugars 05-05-2018 08:45 PM

Not gonna repeat why trump is unpopular here and in most countries. I get it you disagree, you even like the guy. It's a democracy, people are allowed to protest and they will.

kirklancaster 05-05-2018 09:02 PM

The Sinister Group Behind Anti-Trump Riots Exposed
A pro-free-speech rally at the University of California, Berkeley, took a different turn after radical far-leftists started attacking the peacefully assembled crowd. The event, which took place on the 15th of April, descended into a ferocious and chaotic event.

The shadowy extremist group known as Antifa is a network of loosely united far-left anarchist and communist groups that organize violent protests and attacks on populists, conservatives, and anyone else its members deems to be Nazis or fascists.

The anti-fascists action group, commonly known as Antifa was originally formed in Germany in the 1980s. The group took the name of the communist paramilitary groups that engaged the Nazis in street-fighting in the 1930s.

Independent journalist Lauren Southern revealed that anyone who tried to hold any sort of right-wing event literally got beat up by militant communists in the street. Southern was present at one of the pro-Trump Berkeley rallies.

One of the footage captured by Southern’s crew showed Antifa street fighters throwing bricks and M-80 explosives into the crowd, as well as assaulting Trump supporters. One of the witnesses also released another footage that showed one Antifa thug hit a Trump supporter over the head with a bicycle chain and lock.

kirklancaster 05-05-2018 09:03 PM

At Monday’s London rally at Downing Street, the red flags of the Socialist Workers Party were already in evidence. “Stand Up To Racism”, a front for that party, is attempting to organise another demo at the US embassy in London on Saturday. Like that other SWP front, Unite Against Fascism, and of course the Stop The War Coalition, Stand Up To Racism has taken for its name a phrase that is almost entirely unobjectionable. This makes it easy to pull in support for its marches and petitions.

But a bit of scepticism is crucial here. Stop The War is a discredited organisation run by sinister apologists for the Assad and Putin regimes. Their newspaper of choice, the Morning Star, celebrated the “liberation” of east Aleppo by Assad’s forces, and defamed the heroic White Helmet civil defence group as jihadists. They count among their leading lights such charmers as Stalinists who have declared solidarity with North Korea.

Brillopad 05-05-2018 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kirklancaster (Post 9981848)
At Monday’s London rally at Downing Street, the red flags of the Socialist Workers Party were already in evidence. “Stand Up To Racism”, a front for that party, is attempting to organise another demo at the US embassy in London on Saturday. Like that other SWP front, Unite Against Fascism, and of course the Stop The War Coalition, Stand Up To Racism has taken for its name a phrase that is almost entirely unobjectionable. This makes it easy to pull in support for its marches and petitions.

But a bit of scepticism is crucial here. Stop The War is a discredited organisation run by sinister apologists for the Assad and Putin regimes. Their newspaper of choice, the Morning Star, celebrated the “liberation” of east Aleppo by Assad’s forces, and defamed the heroic White Helmet civil defence group as jihadists. They count among their leading lights such charmers as Stalinists who have declared solidarity with North Korea.


The hard-left - purer than the driven snow with no agendas whatsoever other than achieving equality for all - yeah, yeah, yeah!!! Thugs and hypocrites come in all shapes and sizes AND political parties AND so-called ideologies! :hehe:

user104658 05-05-2018 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9981579)
well yes if you consider a poll of 2,021 people to be "a majority" of anything...

Well that's not really how polls work LT... 2000 is a pretty decent sample size :think:.

Scarlett. 05-05-2018 10:09 PM

I don't get why this forum, and people in general imagine the left as this huge monolithic group, the left certainly don't confuse your garden variety right wingers with the Alt Right

Oliver_W 06-05-2018 01:48 PM

Even if he shares the same views with a majority of people, I think most people find him hugely cringeworthy.

Nicky91 06-05-2018 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9981892)
Well that's not really how polls work LT... 2000 is a pretty decent sample size :think:.

a millenial number as well hihi :laugh:

user104658 06-05-2018 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 9982155)
Even if he shares the same views with a majority of people, I think most people find him hugely cringeworthy.

This is probably true. I agree with a lot of his sentiments but I still find him an irritating little sh*t on a personal level :think:

Twosugars 06-05-2018 02:47 PM

he can be a little bit ott, but I don't mind him, we need passionate people, brits are too laid back on the whole and politicians get away with too much as a result


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