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reece(: 03-06-2018 05:00 PM

Demi Lovato receiving online backlash over prank
 



:eyes:

Denver 03-06-2018 05:02 PM

Get ha girlies

montblanc 03-06-2018 05:03 PM

messy

why did she even tweet that :skull:

Mystic Mock 03-06-2018 05:06 PM

Tbh the backlash sounds justified imo.

What kind of "prank" is that anyway? There's nothing remotely humorous about it.

LukeB 03-06-2018 05:07 PM

She's stupid to reveal that. ofc she would get that reaction.

RileyH 03-06-2018 05:08 PM

screaming

kirklancaster 03-06-2018 05:09 PM

I would have given that 'Lady of The Night' 24 hours to stop assaulting me. :hehe:

reece(: 03-06-2018 05:09 PM

mess @ her using it as an excuse to promo one of ha forgotten songs.

reece(: 03-06-2018 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kirklancaster (Post 10024746)
I would have given that 'Lady of The Night' 24 hours to stop assaulting me. :hehe:

:skull:

Oaker 03-06-2018 05:28 PM

I swear she's had so many messy social media posts :skull:

Greg! 03-06-2018 05:29 PM

Stupid cah for posting it in the first place

Eddie. 03-06-2018 05:30 PM

I like Demi though now I don’t know... :worry:

kirklancaster 03-06-2018 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reece(: (Post 10024747)
mess @ her using it as an excuse to promo one of ha forgotten songs.

^ THIS to be frank.

Vicky. 03-06-2018 05:45 PM

****s sake..did she really think this was funny? I would say the backlash is deserved tbh. Was expecting to come in here an d be moaning about people whinging over nothing but yeah, this is sexual assault

Pete. 03-06-2018 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reece(: (Post 10024747)
mess @ her using it as an excuse to promo one of ha forgotten songs.

and not taking this op to promote fall in line smh

Jordan. 03-06-2018 06:10 PM

Imagine her reaction if she was the one being groped as a prank

https://www.imgur.com/KSfp2jr.gif

Jamie89 03-06-2018 06:12 PM

Christ, what an absolute idiot.



Because that's the same :unsure:

montblanc 03-06-2018 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamie89 (Post 10024918)
Christ, what an absolute idiot.



Because that's the same :unsure:

:skull:

Vicky. 03-06-2018 06:17 PM

What a twat :bored:

James 03-06-2018 06:19 PM

Not saying it is, but is this another Roseanne Barr situation?

Withano 03-06-2018 06:24 PM

What a ****ing stupid ****

kirklancaster 03-06-2018 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James (Post 10024935)
Not saying it is, but is this another Roseanne Barr situation?

:laugh2: If it turns out to be: 'Fasten your seatbelt Demi, your career's heading for a real nose-dive'.

Withano 03-06-2018 06:24 PM

Part of me thinks this was her publicists idea though

Withano 03-06-2018 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Withano (Post 10024945)
Part of me thinks this was her publicists idea though

Damn. Changed my mind. Looks like she was just doing a live q&a, and this was one of many questions she answered. She’s just a stupid ****. Unfortunate.

Amy Jade 03-06-2018 06:33 PM

Demi is over anyway but this is a terrible prank. Imagine waking up to a stranger doing that?

Poot > Demi

montblanc 03-06-2018 06:36 PM

poot :love:

reece(: 03-06-2018 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete. (Post 10024871)
and not taking this op to promote fall in line smh

Oop!

https://i.imgur.com/zoT4RbU.jpg

user104658 03-06-2018 09:52 PM

Hmmmmm it depends on how well she knows the guy she did it to, to be honest. Like I have friends who I know would find this hilarious, but also friends (and also, myself) who wouldn't like it at all. :shrug:

If she knew he wouldnt feel personally violated, and he DIDN'T feel personally violated, then I don't really know what the problem is :shrug:.

Wizard. 03-06-2018 10:01 PM

She should have just said that she ran through fields of wheat.

Headie 03-06-2018 10:03 PM

Screaming @ the Warrior promo in her apology

Maru 03-06-2018 11:13 PM

Some people do like these inappropriate pranks though. Even grown adults...

Maru 03-06-2018 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10025741)
Hmmmmm it depends on how well she knows the guy she did it to, to be honest. Like I have friends who I know would find this hilarious, but also friends (and also, myself) who wouldn't like it at all. :shrug:

If she knew he wouldnt feel personally violated, and he DIDN'T feel personally violated, then I don't really know what the problem is :shrug:.

I think it's fine if that person has accepted you and you know their boundaries.. but touch me without my permission when we don't have that relationship, I would let everyone them and everyone around them know. I cannot stand peer pressure either, especially when someone tries to intimidate you to doing things you don't want to do... I shut that down fast... I really hate being told what to do. :hee: That is a massive pet peeve of mine...

I remember in school, the girls had this game where they would slap the ass of the girl(s) who were in the stalls adjacent to them... they had to be told to stop, because we would never know who it was because of the way the stall was laid out... anyway, I thought it was so rich later when they would pick on the introverted girls who were too quiet at the table and ask them if they were lesbians because they wouldn't indulge in the games/chats about other boys... like not being macho enough, but for young girls... I'm like really, you like to slap other girl's asses... also, that's not even your business what their sexuality is... this was in the late 90's. Stupid stupid people.

Withano 03-06-2018 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10025741)
Hmmmmm it depends on how well she knows the guy she did it to, to be honest. Like I have friends who I know would find this hilarious, but also friends (and also, myself) who wouldn't like it at all. :shrug:

If she knew he wouldnt feel personally violated, and he DIDN'T feel personally violated, then I don't really know what the problem is :shrug:.

Maybe I just have prudish friends, but I don’t think that ‘I know this guy has a very relaxed view on sexual assualt, so I payed somebody to violate him’ is a great excuse under literally any circumstance ever.

Thats a pretty standard human boundary. Dont pay people to assault others.

user104658 04-06-2018 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Withano (Post 10025921)
Maybe I just have prudish friends, but I don’t think that ‘I know this guy has a very relaxed view on sexual assualt, so I payed somebody to violate him’ is a great excuse under literally any circumstance ever.

Thats a pretty standard human boundary. Dont pay people to assault others.

It's not a fixed thing, though, and you really have to take interpersonal relationships into account? She might know this guy well enough to know that he'll just find it funny, therefore it's not assault?

I mean surely we can't be saying that there are no blurry definitions when it comes to assault and differing personal relationships. E.g. If my wife grabs my crotch or I hug her from behind and get a cheeky boobie squeeze... That is clearly not sexual assault? But if one of us did that to a stranger or coworker it obviously would be. Unless we're going to go down the route where everyone is supposed to ask for explicit permission every time they touch someone they have a close personal relationship with :umm2: (I have seen this suggested online; it's ludicrous).

That may go without saying for partners but its a more complicated area for friends. E.g. I had a Uni housemate who was a good friend and he used to love to "bed invade" (jump in bed with housemates half dressed :joker: ) and as he knew us / we were all close this couldn't in any way be called assault. If he had gone into the house next door and jumped in with a stranger or vague acquaintance... Yes probably assault.

Or... I've seen lots of groups of female friends who think nothing of grabbing each other's boobs. Not assault. If they jumped the bar and grabbed the barmaids boobs... Yes assault.

I'm struggling to see why it doesn't apply here; if her and the guy she pranked are close enough for her to know almost certainly that he will not feel sexually assaulted, and he DIDN'T feel sexually assaulted, then it isn't sexual assault? Whether or not a person has been assaulted is SURELY up to the discretion of that person?

Nicky91 04-06-2018 07:44 AM

Demi :facepalm: :(


why do you need to post something that silly :hug: you know you would get a negative backlash dummy

Northern Monkey 04-06-2018 08:57 AM

I think in these days of #metoo etc things that may have been half acceptable between friends as a joke years ago just aren’t anymore.
It doesn’t send out the right message these days.Specially not publicly.
Would people be accepting of it if he’d hired someone to grab her by the pussy?
Obviously not.Assault is assault be it on a man or a woman.

Ammi 04-06-2018 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James (Post 10024935)
Not saying it is, but is this another Roseanne Barr situation?

...for me yes it is James...Rosanne stated something that could and inevitably would be deemed as racist...(..I guess these debates go on as to whether her intentions were racist...)...but it was undoubtedly a racist thing to say...so she left herself open for criticism and to be ‘labelled’...and for backlash, which she’s received...Demi has also stated something that she did, her actions not her words that have equally and inevitably left her open to criticism and backlash...there’s no difference really to me...what anyone says, what anyone does etc within the privacy of homes/friendships/familiars etc...by definition isn’t really open to criticism in the same way as stating something publicly on a social site thing...Rosanne could have stated the same in her own home and within her own trusted circle type thing, that’s her freedom...Demi could have pranked a friend in the same way...and no ‘backlash’...but inevitably there will be that backlash in the making public of....


....as to ‘sexual assault’, well that would have to be accused to become that, surely....and I presume he didn’t accuse ...so technically no sexual assault but equally she left herself open to the accusation being made and it would have been a justified accusation imo...


...at the very least it was a really poor judgement I feel, even if it was someone she knew and was just a prank...how did the lady get access to his room to be able to surprise him and make that physical contact...?...did the hotel staff give him a key or let him in or did Demi also have a key which she gave to the lady.....?...hmmmm...and as he was her bodyguard, I would presume a high likelihood of having an armed weapon and a ‘quick and instinctive’ reaction...what if he had used that weapon..(...or physically assaulted the lady in some way in his shock...)...a really poor judgement whichever way I think....which could have led to ‘inevitable’ charges against her...

Ammi 04-06-2018 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 10026089)
I think in these days of #metoo etc things that may have been half acceptable between friends as a joke years ago just aren’t anymore.
It doesn’t send out the right message these days.Specially not publicly.
Would people be accepting of it if he’d hired someone to grab her by the pussy?
Obviously not.Assault is assault be it on a man or a woman.

..,yeah exactly NM, if it were reversed and he had pranked Demi, would she have felt the same...that it was ‘just a prank’...?...or for ‘pranks’ that involve any physical contact in a sexual way that may be deemed as ok in friendship groups, would they still be deemed as ok if done to partners, sisters, mothers etc..?...hmmmm....

Northern Monkey 04-06-2018 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 10026099)
..,yeah exactly NM, if it were reversed and he had pranked Demi, would she have felt the same...that it was ‘just a prank’...?...or for ‘pranks’ that involve any physical contact in a sexual way that may be deemed as ok in friendship groups, would they still be deemed as ok if done to partners, sisters, mothers etc..?...hmmmm....

Exactly.If he’d posted that he’d hired a man to go and touch her ‘area’ he’d be dragged to his nearest town square and publicly flogged by the Twitteratti.
He’d be a sick,pervy barstuard,a creep,a rapist in the making,he’d lose his job and possibly be arrested.

user104658 04-06-2018 10:57 AM

Again, it's up to each individual to decide what they're OK with in their interpersonal relationships and I find this idea that there should be a "standard" that everyone has to comply with really quite worrying :umm2:. If two friends are explicitly OK with "extreme pranking" each other in private then that is entirely their own business and there's very little more to say about it than that.

I can agree with the public aspect, in which case, her mistake was tweeting publicly about it instead of keeping it a private prank between friends.


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