Making ALL penalties public.
 

I think it would make for a fairer more open forum if Warnings and Infractions were made public in the same way that Bans are.

Surely no one could object and it should not be difficult to implement.

Perhaps we could have a Referendum on my suggestion?

They technically already are on our user profiles, but I think some people can hide their profiles.

Good idea and can we have a proper definition of what is baiting and what is having a laugh please because I fear this term for infraction is being abused

:)

I'm all for that Kirk,all out in the open ,for all to see

Yes Kirk i agree with you, a very good suggestion.

Would have no issue with that at all

Oh I had one of those before a couple years back. Don't have a problem with the idea. Also don't see the point in it though.

Don't mind

members will be more informed about the reason for infractions and as such will promote better behavoir, it also allows members to see what mods are doing, a positive move

:)

Think it will just encourage the wrong type of discussion. Probably cause that awful clique vs the mods thing (part 2) if one of the squad was infracted for literally anything further along the line.

Was pretty neutral to the idea at first. Mostly against it now.

calling members "that awful clique" is against forum rules and is exactly what cases disharmony on the forum

may I ask you to edit that part out from your post?

I meant the awful 'clique v mods' not the 'awful clique' v the mods lol... it was awful, it was mass group bullying really, and I see it happening again if this is agreed.

Yes, so easy for members to bully mods who can infract, ban and delete posts as they see fit with no recourse

:joker:

but yes i understand your distinction even if i dont agree with the principal

What really is the problem with things being open and above board :shrug:

Wasn't that the night where like 9 people were banned lol or am I thinking of a different argument :suspect:

Doesn't really matter, I don't think this would be a great idea because people will just use it as a way to vent anger at the mods.

I think it would be a bad idea.

I can imagine if certain people saw somebody they dislike had say 3 open infractions they would try to bait them into an argument.

Where has anger been vented at mods?

Could just see more trouble arising, maybe I'd agree a few year ago when I was nosey and here for constant mess (no shade at people wanting this change)

That is a very negative attitude

:conf2:

Yes more opportunity for members to nitpick and whinge about moderator decisions, wonderful idea.

Mystic Meg?

name them and shame them!:hee:

i would be fine with this decision being made tbh

LOL

I don't think a crystal ball is required to know people wouldn't be able to control themselves :hee:

Mods

See if everything was out in the open ,you would see why some people were frustrated NOT angry.

Well of course you can only speak for yourself :hee:

yeah I agree with you Kazanne

:thumbs: Thanks Matthew.

I haven't got any active infractions, clearly doing something right :hee:

Are you seriously claiming that you have not had an Infraction for a 'couple of years'?

yes

you have made one thread in SD in 2 YEARS...


try being a bit more daring

Wouldn't bother me but I don't think it should be a thread that people can comment on as that will descend into madness, more a thread like the old ban list where a mod updates with infractions / warnings and then locks it. Also think it should be done from a generic TIBB staff account.

This would provide transparency without allowing multiple members to question other people's infractions publicly, I think any queries should still be undertaken by PM.

That would hopefully keep everyone happy :shrug:

See; even on this thread certain of us who ARE being infracted - for what ARE the most spurious of 'reasons' - are being adversely criticised, and unfairly judged, even indicted, of wrong-doing and whinging, by other members who have NONE of the facts only prejudice because they BELIEVE they KNOW what is behind this and their sympathies lie firmly with their friends.

And even on this thread, we CANNOT air our grievances OR the facts in order to defend ourselves against these sniping attacks upon us because to do so is to receive yet another Infraction or worse.

So mock away, snipe, attack, because we CANNOT defend ourselves or even answer back in even the civillest manner without being unfairly PUNISHED and our posts unfairly removed - which is EXACTLY the same when being patronized, talked down to, sniped at, mocked, misrepresented, and baited on Serious Debates by certain parties who remain UNPENALISED.

I will probably be banned just for writing this explanatory response to your mocking post.

And if that is anyone's idea of 'Fair Play' then God forbid that any of you are called up for Jury Duty.

Strange, this is why we need it!

A good compromise Annie

Talking about infractions is a rulebreak, kirk.. might want to edit that post.

Question is, are people aware of the tibb rules? Maybe thats the issue?

Thank you Withano.

The question from my POV is 'Equitable Treatment'.

That's all. No more, no less.

Couldn't give a fig to be honest.:shrug:

Same for me really. If the only change is that you can see other peoples infractions I'm not sure what the benefit would be in that tbh? It could end up being a situation where members are micro managing mods by checking who is and who isn't getting infractions and for which posts and I can see that getting quite messy. I suppose it could always be trialled though.

I think that's something only you can see even if your profile is public?