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Elliot 07-09-2018 09:21 PM

Would Ryan be as bad of a winner as Coleen Nolan
 
Poll coming

Matthew. 07-09-2018 09:22 PM

i liked coleen when she was on big brother but i don’t want ryan to win

montblanc 07-09-2018 09:22 PM

worse :hmph:

Maxxie. 07-09-2018 09:23 PM

Absolutely not, I'd actually be okay with Ryan winning, looking back the only suitable winner for that series would be James cosmo or maybe jedward

Jase. 07-09-2018 09:23 PM

I wouldn't go THAT far

Glenn-C 07-09-2018 09:23 PM

Mess I meant to say no

Oaker 07-09-2018 09:23 PM

Yes he sucks

Coleen winning was funny

smudgie 07-09-2018 09:26 PM

No.
Ryan or Kirstie to win.

Elliot 07-09-2018 09:30 PM

At least Coleen was a surprise it’ll be such a boring final knowing the ****ty housemate will win

point17 07-09-2018 09:48 PM

No. Collee was the worst winner

JoshBB 07-09-2018 09:48 PM

Ryan would be a much better winner than Colleen, but that's not really hard tbh

Jack_ 07-09-2018 09:54 PM

No, at least Ryan's had a storyline

Also in 19 there were housemates that REALLY deserved to win (Kim/Jedward) whereas this time there just aren't so it isn't going to be as much of a laughable result really

AProducer'sWetDream 07-09-2018 09:58 PM

I don't think so, no. At least Ryan has been involved in the main storyline of the season- if you took Coleen out of CBB19, the entire season would be exactly the same until the last ten minutes.

*mazedsalv** 07-09-2018 09:59 PM

You guys are so over dramatic.

Colleen is the worst. Don't know where the comparison is.

Elliot 07-09-2018 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by AProducer'sWetDream (Post 10210018)
I don't think so, no. At least Ryan has been involved in the main storyline of the season- if you took Coleen out of CBB19, the entire season would be exactly the same until the last ten minutes.

You could put literally anyone over Ryan in that storyline he added nothing
But it’s just annoying because it’s propelled him to a surefire win

*mazedsalv** 07-09-2018 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Elliot (Post 10210026)
You could put literally anyone over Ryan in that storyline he added nothing
But it’s just annoying because it’s propelled him to a surefire win

It's not his fault really is it?

Him not winning is similar to if Shilpa didn't. I believe Jermaine=Kirstie. They will fall due to the strength of the incident.

Let's not forget Ryan was fave and 2nd fave to win before the incident happened. Was voted on launch to join Kirstie. He was already popular anyway due to being on Corrie for 18 years.

Elliot 07-09-2018 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by *mazedsalv** (Post 10210042)
It's not his fault really is it?

Him not winning is similar to if Shilpa didn't. I believe Jermaine=Kirstie. They will fall due to the strength of the incident.

Let's not forget Ryan was fave and 2nd fave to win before the incident happened. Was voted on launch to join Kirstie. He was already popular anyway due to being on Corrie for 18 years.

But it doesn’t make him special either
And he’s not like shipla. She was pretty cool. Ryan is such an obnoxious twat

AProducer'sWetDream 07-09-2018 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Elliot (Post 10210026)
You could put literally anyone over Ryan in that storyline he added nothing
But it’s just annoying because it’s propelled him to a surefire win

But it might not have happened without Ryan because a) we don't know Roxanne's motivation for doing what she did and whether it had something to do with their past relationship and b) we don't know how other housemates would have reacted to what she did- they might have walked/blown up and had a row. You can't deny that the way Ryan handled the situation shaped the biggest storyline of the series.

*mazedsalv** 07-09-2018 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Elliot (Post 10210045)
But it doesn’t make him special either
And he’s not like shipla. She was pretty cool. Ryan is such an obnoxious twat

Never said it made him special

But he was involved in the biggest story in a long time.

No one has done too much in there to actually merit a win in terms of entertainment have they? Closest would be for me Kirstie who is also likeable

To me id be happy with a Nick or Ryan win too.

joeysteele 07-09-2018 10:36 PM

No, Coleen was a turn on the tears foul mouthed whinger.
Awful woman and winner.

Ryan would be a good winner, best of luck to him.

Epic. 07-09-2018 10:49 PM

He'd still be better than her, Jim, Bez and Bear but all the other ones I prefer to him

I wouldn't say that he'd be as bad as her

Maru 07-09-2018 11:07 PM

I don't understand the hate towards Ryan. It's as if he's done something terrible... and yes, maybe a bit glib after the Roxanne snub from the crowd, but that's about the gist of it?...

GoldHeart 07-09-2018 11:20 PM

What's with all the terrible comparisons :facepalm:

Ryan is a much nicer person than Colleen ,I don't care what anyone says.
Imo she was a terrible winner !

Robodog 07-09-2018 11:26 PM

His win would be as lame, yes

Epic. 07-09-2018 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maru (Post 10210232)
I don't understand the hate towards Ryan. It's as if he's done something terrible... and yes, maybe a bit glib after the Roxanne snub from the crowd, but that's about the gist of it?...

It's not really hating him as a person, it's just that he's boring and would win based purely on sympathy vote

Elliot 07-09-2018 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 10210257)
What's with all the terrible comparisons :facepalm:

Ryan is a much nicer person than Colleen ,I don't care what anyone says.
Imo she was a terrible winner !

I’m not comparing them as people they’re two separate beasts and I’m sure Ryan doesn’t have a bad bone in his body
I think as winners to represent a series theyre equally as ****ty tho

GoldHeart 07-09-2018 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elliot (Post 10210285)
I’m not comparing them as people they’re two separate beasts and I’m sure Ryan doesn’t have a bad bone in his body
I think as winners to represent a series theyre equally as ****ty tho

Elliot what happened :joker:
We use to agree but now we disagree on things D: :laugh: .

Yeah I know but I just don't think Ryan is a bad winner.
I'm glad you acknowledge he's not a bad guy though.

Imo the worst CBB winners are Jim Davidson, Charlotte Crosby ,Urika Johnson, Courtney Act and the list goes on :bored: .
But we all have our different opinions.

Elliot 07-09-2018 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 10210299)
Elliot what happened :joker:
We use to agree but now we disagree on things D: :laugh: .

Yeah I know but I just don't think Ryan is a bad winner.
I'm glad you acknowledge he's not a bad guy though.

Imo the worst CBB winners are Jim Davidson, Charlotte Crosby ,Urika Johnson, Courtney Act and the list goes on :bored: .
But we all have our different opinions.

All the people you listed are less than favourable winners
Thing is with Ryan is like why I hate most cbb winners, they always win over the most stupid trivial thing. Usually winning is a test and triumph of character and personality but with cbb it’s usually more gimmicky with just outright being more famous. What’s even more insulting than that is someone winning over a controvocy when literally anyone could be at the forefront of it, a n y o n e. Hell roxy could’ve accused Ben of punching her and well it may have not garnered the same response due to Ryan being considerably more famous but he would’ve filled his shoes almost spotlessly. Now we have someone who wins in spite of what winning this show should be about

Maru 07-09-2018 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Epic. (Post 10210271)
It's not really hating him as a person, it's just that he's boring and would win based purely on sympathy vote

See, that I can get empathize with. I have a really neutral reaction to him in general. I thought he was funny/quirky during the task with Kirstie and took a liking to him then. He just seemed naturally fun-loving, very easy-going. Though I'd read some comments on TiBB against him that were quite passionately against him, suggesting his behavior after the Roxanne thing was a total calculation... If he's done anything to warrant a win though, it's that he's affected people on a personal level... I don't think he's the most entertaining character though. Nat was more entertaining.. and I didn't even think that highly of her to begin with... I thought she was really predictable...

Rufus 08-09-2018 12:03 AM

Bear is worse than both of them combined.


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