Would she have done better if Lewis F didn’t leave?
 

I was thinking earlier... I think it was pretty clear that Sîan was being lined up as Lewis’ next target right before he was removed.

With the vote to win opening, would the attention he’d given her have given her a strong anti-Lewis vote and, as a result, could she have made the final?

One can dream at least!

The anti Lewis vote (which is basically the decent human being vote) would be split between her and akeem so one would have to have got evicted or no it wouldn’t have changed much

The answer to that is no, he was well ahead on the bookies and would have won imo. It is funny how different we all see things, I never ever saw him as lining anyone up, the whole house lined him and Akeem up by making them the scapegoats and nominating them nearly each week. They each tittered on the bench chatting about Lewis and possibly Akeem although he did crawl his way in in the end. Most lined Lewis up and not one of them nominated Akeem with a positive vote. Poossibly this is why both of them were top of the shop. Sian was never really heard of as she said she liked to sit it out and watch the fallouts. Anyway it is all over now.

A fair point, I hadn’t considered Akeem. I wonder how much Cameron would have eaten into Lewis’ vote?

I still think that Lewis would have won, he was running away with it, there was a lot of negativity re Cameron especially after the videos were shown. Akeem would have had a better chance of winning over Lewis had he not been taken out. Many Lewis fans went on to vote for Cameron in protest as they thought it was an unfair decision. Some didnt even like Cameron in view of the videos but they still voted for C. The others didnt really have a chance even though it seemed as though they were climbing, I think the poll for Cian was definitely tampered with as he was out first. Oddschecker gave the impression that the bottom slot was between Zoe and Akeem, I was surprised that Akeem came second.

Zoe and Brooke were favourite to go when Sian went, I thought she would of at least got to 4th place but Zoe managed to stay in. It is all about the votes as we know and families took over for the final save as well as those who had placed money.

Why don't you grow up and show some respect to people that have a different opinion to you.
There is nothing decent about your behaviour nor one or two other anti Lewis voters on here.

No she was never going to win.

Elliott, how pathetic, to term decency of people how they vote or don't vote on a TV show.
How insulting.

Your comment though says far more about some of her supporters than anyone else's.

as far as I know Elliott speaks for himself so stop dragging everyone else into it

Just get off your pathetic high horse with me.

Elliott made a full generalised comment that only the anti Lewis vote was representative of decent human beings.

I said in my response, making my own point,on the other hand, SOME of her supporters not all.

You claim to be fair but in my view aren't, so with respect ignore my posts now as I don't wish to spend another bit of my time on here talking to you.

Wait so you condemn Elliot for dragging Lewis fans but then drag Sian fans for his comment? Did you not consider the hypocrisy there?

There will always be good and bad in all fandoms.

This thread is supposedly only about Sian and Lewis isn't it.????

Sian would never have won...dull po faced and bitchy. It wouldn't have mattered what she had done in the last week..who she had been up against...the fact she did nothing in the first few weeks she deserved nothing more than 5th place.

I am sure she would rather 5th over being an ejectee :hee:

Is that all you can ever come back with :sleep:..try debating for once in your life..you baiting is woeful and tiresome.

It was a debate :shrug:

I bet she was trilled with 5th she could have been ejected like Ellis

As much as I loved her I don’t think either way she would have won, but we’ve seen in the past how much the edit in the final week can count and Lewis potentially attacking her character and her not rising to it could have given her a bigger base, is all.

So regardless of what you think of her as a housemate, do you think this potential tension would have helped her?

Where have I ever claimed that? As for ignoring your posts, no I won't, you post on a public forum so don't expect special treatment and making diva demands

If she actually spoke up and aired her opinions to him, then she might have earned enough votes to get herself into the final, but she still wouldn’t have won

Well just don't expect responses from me.
So to say in advance I'm not being ignorant if you quote me in future and I don't respond at all.
It's simply I just want nothing to do with you in the slightest.

No I don't because Lewis was consistant...he had a big fanbase. Sian took herself out of the equation for being in with a chance to win for not doing anything...suddenly picking up dutch courage and a personality in the final week would have just seen her as being fake.

The public were so infatuated with Lewis and she clearly was on her way to IGAF-about-Lewis - so she would've been marked by the Lewis crew and would've gotten the Anti-Lewis support.
She would've been evicted that way, but I don't think Lewis could have enough influence in the house to bring her up for the public vote.

and of course Sian didnt attack Lewis' character....the answer is no she wouldnt have won......end of......no one seemed to feel sorry for her other than a few...and...as she said she liked to sit and watch the fracus, bearing this in mind she possibly loaded other peoples guns and let them fire them....at Lewis!

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but Sian had enough influence to bring Lewis up for noms.

You are spot on here...

Spot on rusti , who do some people think they are ? hypocrite comes to mind.

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Ain't that the truth rusti .

What vids?

I only saw the anti-femist video which had been circulating the web in the first week in the house.

I enjoy a debate and like you and others can debate without demeaning others who see things differently. Its unnecessary to put down forum members and fans who have a different opinion. I will come back at those that make it personal or deliberately antagonise and bait. It makes a mockery out of genuine debate and sadly deteriorates into name calling...seen too much on this forum.

She went far away. 5th place isn’t to be sniffed at!

The one I saw was the one where he was talking about his exams (?) I thought he was hilarious, the way he spoke I had to laugh. I havent seen the feminsm one, unless it was on the end of that one, I believe it is a separate one though. I didnt watch it as I know what others were trying to do. Regardless though he has an aptitude for dry humour and if he tackles his content well he could do brilliantly.

I understand he was 16 when the video(s) were made, I dont think I saw it in the beginning but when he was top of the shop it was being used to decry his element in a couple of forums. It didnt work as we know.

I love a good debate tbh, for me it is the art of putting the positive to the negative which is being shown. It has been known in a serious debate for some to change their minds and to see both sides of the coins. It can be a good game, I have, over the years found myself being the odd one out altogether because I saw something good which others didnt, in my eyes they were presenting the facts wrongly. Some were afraid to put their views forward because of the aggro but they agreed with my points. A great saying "are you watching the same show I am watching" have to laugh at that one as it is so old hat....Cant even remember who said it on here but I do believe it was said by one or two, each to their own eh! Anyway takes care everyone.

In a good debate it is also necessary imo to put the reasons why if possible, why are you standing up for that HM not to just use derogatory remarks without content. Look deeper than many of us do. Dont always follow the sheep, not saying anyone does but it has been known.

If akeem & cian got evicted, and cameron & lewis still in the house
I reckon she could win tbh

Sian is just a dull person whoever she is with. Wouldn't have made a difference if Lewis F stayed.

No difference at all. Hussain said she was the most boring in there.

Sian is no more dull than most of the c4 winners, most of the Cbb winners ect so it clearly isn’t a factor

No but its BB and we are looking for some personality...we are looking for some involvement and interaction.
Sian admitted herself she just enjoyed watching the interactions like an inside viewer...and that's exactly why she made a boring dull housemate and denied someone an opportunity.

:love: true but I can’t help but wish for more for our cig smoking, cider drinking princess!

She should have been out ion week one, the only hm we could have done without quite easily this series...we wouldnt have missed anything, thats for sure.

Quite happy with that solution to your problem