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Oliver_W 02-12-2018 07:59 AM

Baby It's Cold Outside pulled by radio station, citing #MeToo
 
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It's a Christmas classic probably being played in shops and radio stations all over the world.

But a radio station in Cleveland, Ohio has decided to remove Baby It's Cold Outside from its playlist following complaints from listeners.

Local media report that listeners said the song was inappropriate and at odds with the #MeToo movement.

But a poll on the station's Facebook page showed a majority of respondents did not want the song banned.

Glenn Anderson, a host at the Star 102 station, blogged that although the song was written in a different era, the lyrics felt "manipulative and wrong".

"The world we live in is extra sensitive now, and people get easily offended, but in a world where #MeToo has finally given women the voice they deserve, the song has no place."

The tune takes the form of a back-and-forth conversation where a man tries to persuade his female guest not to risk the journey home in bad weather, but to have another drink and spend the night with him instead.
When this was trending on Twitter, the decision was being almost universally mocked and derided, which is refreshing. It's just a bit of a shame that some lonely cat-obsessed lesbians decided to get a Christmas staple banned from the station.




user104658 02-12-2018 08:50 AM

To be fair the lyrics are hilariously dodgy :joker:... But as always, it wasn't written yet aterday and "banning history" because it doesn't fit with modern society is daft.

I also do worry about whether or not baby would have died if she had tried to walk home because it sounds like it was a real risk :worry:.

user104658 02-12-2018 08:51 AM

It can also never beat "Young Girl" :umm2:

Lostie! 02-12-2018 08:55 AM

Tom Jones trying to date rape Cerys Matthews on VH1 is a bloody Christmas tradition!

user104658 02-12-2018 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Lostie! (Post 10370023)
Tom Jones trying to date rape Cerys Matthews on VH1 is a bloody Christmas tradition!

:joker: "Say, what's in this drink?" is maybe the most disturbing lyric in the song.

"What's the sense in hurtin' my pride" is up there though!

Smithy 02-12-2018 09:00 AM


Liam- 02-12-2018 09:02 AM

Not a war on Christmas :omgno:

Epic. 02-12-2018 10:46 AM

This pissed me off. The song may sound a little severe out of context but it was never intended to be a Christmas song about sexual assault. Anything can be twisted for it to sound bad. It's like banning Santa Claus because 'he sees children when they're sleeping or awake, he knows when they've been good or bad' and that he climbs down chimneys in the middle of the night. See how wrong it sounds with a negative spin on it? This is just another overblown unnecessary decision

Livia 02-12-2018 11:08 AM

Good grief...

bots 02-12-2018 11:19 AM

they will be banning this next


Livia 02-12-2018 11:25 AM

Yeah! Chevalier's obviously a paedo. It's disgusting how those old songs are so dodgy. I'm glad we now live in a time where that kind of thing doesn't happen.

Meanwhile, I'm off to listen to Smack My Bitch Up my Prodigy.

Maru 02-12-2018 05:23 PM

I think the true offense here is the song contains the most triggering word of all: "outside"...

Have we already forgotten this gem?


James 02-12-2018 05:37 PM

I've read that it is being misinterpreted now, and the song is not about coercion, but rather the woman is worried about damaging her reputation if she stayed with the man -as that was the social convention at the time.

And the line 'What's in this drink?' was a common phrase then, that means something different from what it sounds like now.

Alf 02-12-2018 05:41 PM

Hey, me too movement, why don't you fook off!

user104658 02-12-2018 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 10370761)
I've read that it is being misinterpreted now, and the song is not about coercion, but rather the woman is worried about damaging her reputation if she stayed with the man -as that was the social convention at the time.

And the line 'What's in this drink?' was a common phrase then, that means something different from what it sounds like now.

To play devil's advocate though, the "current ideal" is that no pressure of any kind should be applied after a "no", no matter what the reason for saying no (and one valid reason would be public perception). No means no and all that.

And I guess the logic in not allowing it to be played now would be worries that, even though the song is from anothet era, the lyrics could still be seen to normalise "applying gentle pressure" and "the game / chase" aspect of things (i.e. The pursuer believing that, although the pursuee has said no, they really do want to and just need to be convinced to say yes).


That said I think it's massively over thinking the issue and no one is realistically getting life lessons from old crimbo bops.

Crimson Dynamo 02-12-2018 05:51 PM

Little Mix to release a anti Christmas album called

"Mary , my Hoe years in Nazareth"

track one being "God, suck my dick, you gender neutral sexist PIG"?

Tom4784 02-12-2018 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 10370029)

Pretty much.

montblanc 02-12-2018 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 10370029)

yup happens every day

Marsh. 02-12-2018 06:04 PM

Good.

Have never been able to abide it, especially the Tom Jones version.

Marsh. 02-12-2018 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10369998)
When this was trending on Twitter, the decision was being almost universally mocked and derided, which is refreshing. It's just a bit of a shame that some lonely cat-obsessed lesbians decided to get a Christmas staple banned from the station.

And your wide-of-the-mark sexist and homophobic diatribe is allowed?

Marsh. 02-12-2018 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Lostie! (Post 10370023)
Tom Jones trying to date rape Cerys Matthews on VH1 is a bloody Christmas tradition!

:joker::joker::joker:

Marsh. 02-12-2018 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 10370196)
Yeah! Chevalier's obviously a paedo. It's disgusting how those old songs are so dodgy. I'm glad we now live in a time where that kind of thing doesn't happen.

Meanwhile, I'm off to listen to Smack My Bitch Up my Prodigy.

That's also going on 20 years old. Showing your age. :hehe:

Maru 02-12-2018 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 10370761)
I've read that it is being misinterpreted now, and the song is not about coercion, but rather the woman is worried about damaging her reputation if she stayed with the man -as that was the social convention at the time.

And the line 'What's in this drink?' was a common phrase then, that means something different from what it sounds like now.

Yeah I remember that phrase from watching classics. I actually like the song even if it seems a bit extra cheesy (to me).

Elliot 02-12-2018 06:25 PM

Mariah Carey invented Christmas all the other flops could never!

Oliver_W 02-12-2018 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 10370029)

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 10370033)
Not a war on Christmas :omgno:

Nice strawmanning. No-one sensible is using this as an example of the "regressive left" or "war on Christmas", I've only heard the decision being derided as bloody stupid in its own right.

Alf 02-12-2018 06:39 PM

The only people who can challenge these vile women are the sensible women. These women are gonna make men hate women, we're already choosing homosexuality in mass numbers.

These people give you good women a bad name, you need to challenge them.

montblanc 02-12-2018 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10370961)
The only people who can challenge these vile women are the sensible women. These women are gonna make men hate women, we're already choosing homosexuality in mass numbers.

These people give you good women a bad name, you need to challenge them.

whew

Underscore 02-12-2018 06:45 PM

Victory :cheer2:

Elliot 02-12-2018 06:46 PM

why are people so keen on holding on to some tired rapey christmas song? does it really mean that much to you?

Marsh. 02-12-2018 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10370961)
The only people who can challenge these vile women are the sensible women. These women are gonna make men hate women, we're already choosing homosexuality in mass numbers.

These people give you good women a bad name, you need to challenge them.

Which women?

Alf 02-12-2018 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10371017)
Which women?

Feminazis

Marsh. 02-12-2018 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10370950)
Nice strawmanning. No-one sensible is using this as an example of the "regressive left" or "war on Christmas", I've only heard the decision being derided as bloody stupid in its own right.

Pointing out that Fox News IS using it as some example of the extreme left is straw-manning? No.

Underscore 02-12-2018 06:59 PM

#proudfeminazi

Marsh. 02-12-2018 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10371018)
Feminazis

Such a misused word.

Oliver_W 02-12-2018 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10371023)
Pointing out that Fox News IS using it as some example of the extreme left is straw-manning? No.

So you think Fox News is sensible? The tweet didn't include video footage, and the screencaps don't mention the extreme left.

Marsh. 02-12-2018 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10371063)
So you think Fox News is sensible? The tweet didn't include video footage, and the screencaps don't mention the extreme left.

So?

Didn't stop you bringing lesbians into it.

Alf 02-12-2018 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10371058)
Such a misused word.

They ban, censor, surpress something new each week.

Last week it was men growing beards in November to raise money for charity that they attacked and want stopping. They even attack their own, like the grid girls and darts girls.

Marsh. 02-12-2018 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10371078)
They ban, censor, surpress something new each week.

Last week it was men growing beards in November to raise money for charity that they attacked and want stopping. They even attack their own, like the grid girls and darts girls.

Do you call anyone who does something you don't agree with a Feminazi?

Oliver_W 02-12-2018 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10371070)
So?

Didn't stop you bringing lesbians into it.

Yeah my doing so was about as unnecessary as Smithy's strawmanning, including that crap in my post didn't add anything.

Alf 02-12-2018 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10371087)
Do you call anyone who does something you don't agree with a Feminazi?

No, it's just the Feminazis that I call Feminazis.


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