Do you belive Mary had Jesus but was not unfaithful and God did it?
 

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This is how the birth of Jesus the Messiah came about: His mother Mary was pledged to be married to Joseph, but before they came together, she was found to be pregnant through the Holy Spirit. Because Joseph her husband was faithful to the law, and yet did not want to expose her to public disgrace, he had in mind to divorce her quietly.

But after he had considered this, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream and said, “Joseph son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary home as your wife, because what is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit. She will give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus, because he will save his people from their sins.”

All this took place to fulfill what the Lord had said through the prophet: “The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel”(which means “God with us”).

When Joseph woke up, he did what the angel of the Lord had commanded him and took Mary home as his wife. But he did not consummate their marriage until she gave birth to a son. And he gave him the name Jesus.

Source: da Bible



That account above is what the whole shebang is based on and dont forget it was "written" down around 80 years after it was alleged to happen


so, having read that, what do you make of it?

In a word .... no ... She did well though coming up with that excuse

I love the story of Danielle McMahon

I don’t believe in God so, no.

Nah, Mary either cheated on Joseph, or banged him before they were married so they created a story so she wouldnt get stoned to death.. after a few years the son got in on the lie and learnt a few ‘magic’ tricks to make that money. He eventually gained a few h8rz but his m8z was all like ‘nah he died for your sins you horrible person’ when actually he died because he pissed off the clever kids in town that saw through his wall of lies.

Amen

not LT suggesting we are about to celebrate a slut and a bastard :nono:

not very Christmassy

next he'll suggest Santa isn't real :inamood:

this madness has to stop!

Sounds like the after party for Tibbs most loved

IVF 2000 years before we invented it.
Amazing.

No, because Jesus is a myth.

Why would anyone believe anything that was only written down after 80 years of Chinese whisperers?

Jews see Christ as a prophet, not the son of God. So I'm going with "no".

That said, Merry Christmas all you atheists.

Yes you do say that every year and every year I say the same thing. I (and most of western society) have adapted Christmas as a time to spend with your loved ones and decorate a tree, eat alot and have a break from work. It's about as un Godlike as you can get. The religious folk are very fond of stealing holidays so what's good for the goose and all that

And every year I agree with you... that it has become a time for families to get together and celebrate. And that's fine. I'm not a Christian and I celebrate Christmas. What I don't approve of is celebrating Christmas and then pouring scorn on Christians when everyone has a right to religious freedom to follow their faith, or to follow none. That last sentence isn't particularly pointed at you, Niamh x

You all should steal Hanukkah. You'd get more presents and it lasts for 8 days.

Mary was a hoe

He most categorically was not a myth, he existed. Whether or not he was the son of god is a different matter.

Dirty slapper

Plenty men existed but a supernatural one most certainly did not

Then he existed but wasn't supernatural, fine.

The Jews and the Muslims think he existed... but wasn't the son of God.

You Are Most Wise Liam

Joseph was a closet gay and Mary was a fag hag pretending to be his virgin wife whilst getting dick on the side. They both panicked at the pregancy and came up with a far fetched story that managed to scam humanity for thousands of years. Name a more iconic duo?

You should be writing for the soaps.

Thank you Arista :hee:

legitimate or not, I like Jesus and what he stood for so roll on Christmas :dance:

:joker: i just spat smirnoff ice on the tshirt i was planning on wearing to the christmas party tonight :oh:

Yeah... his message was love each other. Provocative b*****d

As with all religions, Christianity took a real person and created a fiction out of their life to better indoctrinate the masses.

By all accounts, Jesus was simply a preacher preaching love and peace, I'd rather focus on that then the fiction that was written around him to weaponise him.

This is my view, but believe in what you want I guess.

I was going to comment here,but as a Christian I find some of the comments really offensive,so I will pass on this one.

Mohammed was a paedophile allegedly.

We're all free to believe what we want obviously, but I don't understand why some feel the need to mock religion :notimpressed: . Not everyone believes in reincarnation but are you going to walk up to a Buddhist and insult them by saying they're talking "rubbish" ?? :facepalm: I think NOT .

You say that like people are scared of Buddhists or something :laugh: I mean I don't come across many buddhists in everyday life anyway :shrug:

They were actually talking about this subject on the radio earlier and apparently the word "virgin" is a mis-translation, it originally said pretty not virgin?

Grown adults have decided to base their lives on fairy stories written in bronze age Palestine, and you're wondering why people feel the need to mock that?

Most likely explanation is that Joseph himself got Mary pregnant before they were married, which at the time was a major issue, so they were like "No Wtf she is still a virgin honest must have been God".

People are allowed their opinion. I personally find all organised religion to be bull**** because it's all written by man at the end of the day. People are allowed to believe what they want and so am I and I believe that organised religion, at it's core, has always been a weapon of control.

If people's beliefs aren't forced on others and don't hurt anyone else why mock them? I don't like people forcing their beliefs on children but if they believe that Jesus was the Son of God born to a Virgin what's the problem :shrug:

100%

People are allowed to mock others for just about anything, so why should religion get a free pass? People take this stuff way to seriously

there's a fine line tho
Christians get singled out bc they won't sue or blow anybody up for it
don't see as much ridicule of Jews and Muslims, do you?
these three religions share a lot of stuff, you know

Probably because (certainly for me anyway) people grew up with Christianity. I know alot about it, i was indoctrinated in to it so I feel more qualified to speak about that more than others that I have limited knowledge of. But in a general sense I think it's all BS, if that helps you? :hee: