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Tom4784 26-02-2019 12:50 PM

Facebook bans Tommy Robinson's page
 
Quote:

Facebook has taken down anti-Islamic leader Tommy Robinson's official page and Instagram profile for violating its policies on hate speech.

The former English Defence League leader was deemed to have been engaged in "organised hate".

A number of posts on his page had violated the social network's community standards, Facebook said in a blogpost.

It said that it had not taken the decision to remove his page lightly but added he would not be allowed back.

"When ideas and opinions cross the line and amount to hate speech that may create an environment of intimidation and exclusion for certain groups in society - in some cases with potentially dangerous offline implications - we take action," Facebook said in a post.

"Tommy Robinson's Facebook page has repeatedly broken these standards, posting material that uses dehumanising language and calls for violence targeted at Muslims.

"He has also behaved in ways that violate our policies around organised hate."

The ban means that Tommy Robinson, whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, will not be allowed to set up an official Facebook page or Instagram profile in future.

According to Facebook, a written warning had been sent to Mr Robinson last month about a number of posts on his page that had violated its community standards, including:

a post calling Muslims "filthy scum bags"
a post urging people to terrorise and behead those who follow the Koran
a post urging people to "make war" on Muslims
multiple videos depicting individuals being bullied
In January, YouTube suspended adverts on Mr Robinson's account, saying he had broken the site's advertising rules.

At the time, Mr Robinson denied they contained any "hateful" content and said he was the victim of censorship.

In November, PayPal said it would no longer process payments for Mr Robinson.

In May, Mr Robinson, 35, was jailed for contempt of court. The 13-month sentence sparked a series of #freetommy protests. The conviction was later quashed after procedural concerns.

The case has now been referred to the attorney general.

In March 2018, Mr Robinson was banned from Twitter. It is understood that his account was suspended for breaking its "hateful conduct policy".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-47371290
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I wonder how long it'll take him to completely misunderstand and represent censorship again and claim he's been a victim of it? I hope Facebook doesn't cave to his uninformed horde of gammon and undo the decision.

LeatherTrumpet 26-02-2019 12:54 PM

i am sure he is devastated

:joker:

Tom4784 26-02-2019 12:55 PM

He certainly was when Twitter banned him.

Mitchell 26-02-2019 12:59 PM

Good riddance

Jordan. 26-02-2019 01:05 PM

Good luck using Myspace as a platform

Alf 26-02-2019 01:10 PM

Imagine if William Wilberforce had been censored from giving his opinions.

If people in positions of power need to censor other human beings, then they'd be my biggest concern, what do they have to hide?

Twosugars 26-02-2019 01:11 PM

hate speech from Tommy? what a surprise

SherzyK 26-02-2019 01:11 PM


LeatherTrumpet 26-02-2019 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10458989)
hate speech from Tommy? what a surprise

no from people posting on his page it says

Mitchell 26-02-2019 01:13 PM

Imagine being banned from Facebook for constantly breaking rules?

LeatherTrumpet 26-02-2019 01:14 PM

i mean, if only there was some way to get around this complex technical issue...

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Alf 26-02-2019 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10458989)
hate speech from Tommy? what a surprise

Hate speech needs to be defended more than any other speech.

You don't need to defend other speech, it's free as should hate speech be.

Twosugars 26-02-2019 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10458988)
Imagine if William Wilberforce had been censored from giving his opinions.

If people in positions of power need to censor other human beings, then they'd be my biggest concern, what do they have to hide?

Luckily Tommy is no Wilberforce
Also, he's got no earth-shattering secrets to impart, just plain vile hate
so no need to despair, Alf

Alf 26-02-2019 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10458997)
Luckily Tommy is no Wilberforce
Also, he's got no earth-shattering secrets to impart, just plain vile hate
so no need to despair, Alf

Wilberforce was hated by people who didn:t agree with him, because he was saying the wrong things at the time. Just like Tommy is today.

LeatherTrumpet 26-02-2019 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10458997)
Luckily Tommy is no Wilberforce
Also, he's got no earth-shattering secrets to impart, just plain vile hate
so no need to despair, Alf

can you give the thread an example of two of this so called hate speech from him?

Twosugars 26-02-2019 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10458996)
Hate speech needs to be defended more than any other speech.

You don't need to defend other speech, it's free as should hate speech be.

libertarian are we?
Disagree, Alf. There's no need to hear people calling for murder. He could still make any conciveable point he wishes without inciting murder.

The Slim Reaper 26-02-2019 01:21 PM

Weirdly, I partly agree with Alf. However, free speech is not consequence-free speech. No one is curbing his ability to give his opinions on any subject he wishes, he just doesn't have the right for those opinions to be given a public platform.

Tom4784 26-02-2019 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10458988)
Imagine if William Wilberforce had been censored from giving his opinions.

If people in positions of power need to censor other human beings, then they'd be my biggest concern, what do they have to hide?

Who has censored Tommy Robinson?

Elliot 26-02-2019 01:26 PM

what a mess!

Alf 26-02-2019 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10459004)
Who has censored Tommy Robinson?

Facebook and Twitter for a kick off.

arista 26-02-2019 01:27 PM

He Broke the the New Facebook
inforced Hate Rules
so you would expect him to be banned.

They are setting up other Sites
to carry on.

So many will no longer see what he posts.

arista 26-02-2019 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10459008)
Facebook and Twitter for a kick off.


also banned today on Instagram

arista 26-02-2019 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10459003)
Weirdly, I partly agree with Alf. However, free speech is not consequence-free speech. No one is curbing his ability to give his opinions on any subject he wishes, he just doesn't have the right for those opinions to be given a public platform.



But Facebook has new Hate Rules
you can not ignore that
he would have had warnings

reece(: 26-02-2019 01:30 PM

Rest in piss

The Slim Reaper 26-02-2019 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10459015)
But Facebook has new Hate Rules
you can not ignore that
he would have had warnings

Yeah, which is why I said he doesn't have the right to a public platform for his free speech.

Tom4784 26-02-2019 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10459008)
Facebook and Twitter for a kick off.

Facebook and Twitter are not government bodies, they are privately owned platforms in which uses are granted access to if they accept a code of conduct.

If you agreed to rent a flat from someone and you disregarded the rules, could you blame the owner for throwing you out? No because you broke the rules you agreed to follow. Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon is not being censored, he can shout his views from the rooftops and no one can stop him doing so but they can remove him if he breaks the rules of the platform he is using.

To call it censorship is to misunderstand what censorship is in the first place. You are entitled to your views, you are entitled to share them but you aren't entitled to use a platform that you don't own if you can't follow the rules of that platform.

Alf 26-02-2019 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10459022)
Facebook and Twitter are not government bodies, they are privately owned platforms in which uses are granted access to if they accept a code of conduct.

If you agreed to rent a flat from someone and you disregarded the rules, could you blame the owner for throwing you out? No because you broke the rules you agreed to follow. Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon is not being censored, he can shout his views from the rooftops and no one can stop him doing so but they can remove him if he breaks the rules of the platform he is using.

To call it censorship is to misunderstand what censorship is in the first place. You are entitled to your views, you are entitled to share them but you aren't entitled to use a platform that you don't own if you can't follow the rules of that platform.

They may have started as private companies, but they are now the biggest public square for debate.

arista 26-02-2019 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10459018)
Yeah, which is why I said he doesn't have the right to a public platform for his free speech.


He is setting up their own Sites
so those that are loyal & follow him
will carry on.

LeatherTrumpet 26-02-2019 01:45 PM

He can use all the UKIP channels if he needs to

Tom4784 26-02-2019 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10459029)
They may have started as private companies, but they are now the biggest public square for debate.

Wrong.

Social Media platforms were privately owned platforms when they're created and they are still privately own platforms now. None of us are entitled to use social media without limits, we all have to abide by a code of conduct we agreed to when we signed up. Nothing has changed and popularity of a platform doesn't change the facts.

Nobody is telling Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon that he can't have his own opinions, nobody is punishing him for having those views but that doesn't mean he can break the rules that he agreed to when he signed up to those websites. He is entitled to his views but he isn't entitled to use a platform that he doesn't own.

Trying to make out that Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon is being censored is just factually incorrect and by continuing to do so you are spreading misinformation.

Toy Soldier 26-02-2019 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10458969)
i am sure he is devastated

:joker:

Given that he's built literally his entire "political" career around Social Media-outrage and winding people up into a frenzy online... being banned from Social Media platforms does represent a bit of a problem for him.

parmnion 26-02-2019 01:51 PM

Good....makes more room for the paedos to work in....well done facebook, loving the stability.

Scarlett. 26-02-2019 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10458988)
Imagine if William Wilberforce had been censored from giving his opinions.

If people in positions of power need to censor other human beings, then they'd be my biggest concern, what do they have to hide?

He's not being censored, he was banned for breaking the terms of service on a website.

Toy Soldier 26-02-2019 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10459045)
Good....makes more room for the paedos to work in....well done facebook, loving the stability.

Paedophiles can't be having much luck on Facebook these days though... I don't think anyone under 40 uses it any more :think:.

parmnion 26-02-2019 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10459049)
Paedophiles can't be having much luck on Facebook these days though... I don't think anyone under 40 uses it any more :think:.



https://www.statista.com/statistics/...ge-and-gender/

LeatherTrumpet 26-02-2019 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10459049)
Paedophiles can't be having much luck on Facebook these days though... I don't think anyone under 40 uses it any more :think:.

i cant see it lasting too much longer its an awful platform, literally the worst useability one can imagine

dreadful technological dinosaur

Underscore 26-02-2019 02:24 PM

Great stuff

and can we also ban folk like Katie Hopkins at the same time

LukeB 26-02-2019 02:25 PM

Good news.

Banned from Australia and now facebook. good stuff

Elliot 26-02-2019 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Underscore (Post 10459078)
Great stuff

and can we also ban folk like Katie Hopkins at the same time

yes pls

Alf 26-02-2019 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dia. (Post 10459048)
He's not being censored, he was banned for breaking the terms of service on a website.

The problem with that is that they're not consistent with this, and it looks, to the observing eye, that these rules are enforced by partisan political leanings.


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