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Cherie 01-03-2019 05:32 PM

The import of US chlorinated chicken, beef with growth hormones and GM produce
 
This will form part of any trade deal with the USA.

Brilliant isn't it!

arista 01-03-2019 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10461939)
This will form part of any trade deal with the USA.

Brilliant isn't it!



Bollocks it will

Cherie 01-03-2019 05:33 PM

It was on the news Arista

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/b...cken-p7q0zsj3n

arista 01-03-2019 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10461942)


Yes for over a year.
But who cares?

Cherie 01-03-2019 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10461945)
Yes for over a year.
But who cares?

why wouldn't you care?

arista 01-03-2019 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10461946)
why wouldn't you care?


Because I will not eat it.


[Liam Fox, the international trade secretary, has dismissed reports of potential changes as “fake news”.]

Twosugars 01-03-2019 06:00 PM

Liam Fox, don't make me laugh

Anyway, let's hope there's a different president by the time of negotiations bc this one will force all sorts of American crap on the UK

Northern Monkey 01-03-2019 06:30 PM

So my chicken will smell like the local swimming pool.Sounds good.

arista 01-03-2019 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 10461987)
So my chicken will smell like the local swimming pool.Sounds good.


No it is washed off

joeysteele 01-03-2019 07:46 PM

Well I wouldn't touch it.
Then again, I don't now eat meat, I'm vegetarian.
This however, if I did eat meat would worry me considerably.

Cherie 01-03-2019 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10461947)
Because I will not eat it.


[Liam Fox, the international trade secretary, has dismissed reports of potential changes as “fake news”.]

You might in a restaurant

MTVN 01-03-2019 08:48 PM

Meh millions of Americans eat it every day with no problems, don't know what the issue is

Cherie 01-03-2019 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 10462224)
Meh millions of Americans eat it every day with no problems, don't know what the issue is

Americans with no health issues ...yeah me neither :skull:

joeysteele 01-03-2019 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 10462224)
Meh millions of Americans eat it every day with no problems, don't know what the issue is

Americans healthy and few problems.
That's a new one.

Even my cousins who live in L.A. won't touch meat over there.

Beso 01-03-2019 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 10462011)
No it is washed off

It well smell like my drying spedos?

Cherie 01-03-2019 10:08 PM

The reason they chlorinate the chicken is because of potential disease on the chicken.. :skull:

T* 01-03-2019 10:11 PM

I’ll stick to my quorn

Beso 01-03-2019 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10462421)
The reason they chlorinate the chicken is because of potential disease on the chicken.. :skull:

I'm sure the uk has 1 chicken per family per day on offer..clucking away, happily running about the sheds, unaware of being crammed 8 at a time into 24 berth crates.Thier wings crunching on entry, to allow space for the comfortable 8 hour journey towards the patheticness of their finality. Those poor bewildered gaping eyes as the metal noose clunk's them inching forward.

arista 02-03-2019 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10462412)
It well smell like my drying spedos?


If it did no one would eat it.
it would not sell.


Its a Cherie (who hates Brexit )
Old Scare Story from a year ago

arista 02-03-2019 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 10462224)
Meh millions of Americans eat it every day with no problems, don't know what the issue is


Its a Brexit Scare Story

arista 02-03-2019 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10462197)
You might in a restaurant


No
I do not think so.

Cherie 02-03-2019 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10462557)
If it did no one would eat it.
it would not sell.


Its a Cherie (who hates Brexit )
Old Scare Story from a year ago

Here is a link that says otherwise for Arista who loves Brexit

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47036119

US lobby groups for agriculture and pharmaceutical firms want UK standards changed to be closer to those of the US in a post-Brexit trade deal.

The meat lobby wants the sale of growth hormone-fed beef, currently banned in the UK and EU, to be allowed in the UK.

The drugs company lobby wants changes to the NHS drugs approval process to allow it to buy more of US drugs.

They are also asking US officials - who will hold a hearing later - to seek lower tariffs on agricultural goods.

The farming groups say any deal should move away from EU standards, including rules governing genetically modified crops, antibiotics in meats, and pesticides and herbicides, such as glyphosate.

Cherie 02-03-2019 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10462426)
I'm sure the uk has 1 chicken per family per day on offer..clucking away, happily running about the sheds, unaware of being crammed 8 at a time into 24 berth crates.Thier wings crunching on entry, to allow space for the comfortable 8 hour journey towards the patheticness of their finality. Those poor bewildered gaping eyes as the metal noose clunk's them inching forward.

Of course there are people who break the law, the point is there is a law so when they are caught there are consequences just like with the horse meat scandal

arista 02-03-2019 07:46 AM

Yes Cherie
Our Standards are good

bots 02-03-2019 07:55 AM

Well, i care very much about the food standards we have here in the UK, and for all those who say it won't happen, of course it will, the moment business decides what we can eat rather than our standards agencies.

Twosugars 02-03-2019 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10462562)
Here is a link that says otherwise for Arista who loves Brexit

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47036119

US lobby groups for agriculture and pharmaceutical firms want UK standards changed to be closer to those of the US in a post-Brexit trade deal.

The meat lobby wants the sale of growth hormone-fed beef, currently banned in the UK and EU, to be allowed in the UK.

The drugs company lobby wants changes to the NHS drugs approval process to allow it to buy more of US drugs.

They are also asking US officials - who will hold a hearing later - to seek lower tariffs on agricultural goods.

The farming groups say any deal should move away from EU standards, including rules governing genetically modified crops, antibiotics in meats, and pesticides and herbicides, such as glyphosate.

brexit britain :skull:

MTVN 02-03-2019 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10462315)
Americans with no health issues ...yeah me neither :skull:

Well if that's a result of chlorinated chicken then what's our excuse

Cherie 02-03-2019 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 10462686)
Well if that's a result of chlorinated chicken then what's our excuse

we have plenty of our own health issues without importing more :nono:

Kazanne 02-03-2019 12:51 PM

Fight back ,go veggie,you'll be healthier:hee:

Twosugars 02-03-2019 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10462714)
Fight back ,go veggie,you'll be healthier:hee:

You'll have to. When American big pharma comes here NHS drugs will be far more expensive

user104658 02-03-2019 01:25 PM

Tbh what you actually eat will still come down to personal choice... You can always go organic.

user104658 02-03-2019 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10462723)
You'll have to. When American big pharma comes here NHS drugs will be far more expensive

Tbh it's more complicated than that; the price will only increase if the American health insurance model comes with the big pharma. Of course with Tory governments that's always a risk, too.

Basically American drugs are so expensive because of the never ending insurance adjustments waltz between the hospitals / pharma companies / insurance companies.

user104658 02-03-2019 01:30 PM

Tbh tbh tbh. I'm tbh everything today tbh.

Cherie 02-03-2019 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10462735)
Tbh what you actually eat will still come down to personal choice... You can always go organic.





Lol if you can afford it?

user104658 02-03-2019 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10462761)
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Lol if you can afford it?

True, but in all honesty our non-organic chicken is muck anyway. The hormones are more of a concern but if you're OK with eating cheap chicken currently, allowing it to be chlorinated realistically won't make a huge difference.

I'm more concerned about the pesticides they're likely to legalise when they have free reign.

Cherie 02-03-2019 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10462770)
True, but in all honesty our non-organic chicken is muck anyway. The hormones are more of a concern but if you're OK with eating cheap chicken currently, allowing it to be chlorinated realistically won't make a huge difference.

I'm more concerned about the pesticides they're likely to legalise when they have free reign.

Im not addressing chlorinated chicken per se as I think that is the least worrying of the three in the OP, but its what most who have responded have seemed to hone in on, at least you can wash off chlorine, growth hormones and pesticides are another matter

joeysteele 02-03-2019 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10462714)
Fight back ,go veggie,you'll be healthier:hee:

I have done Kazanne.
I've been moving to it since my late teens anyway.

Northern Monkey 02-03-2019 06:06 PM

TS has a point.Just because US chicken will be available to us doesn’t mean we’ll have to buy it.Just vote with your pockets and buy UK/Euro chicken.
Let the market decide.

In restaurants if enough people explicitly say they don’t want US chicken then the restaurants won’t use it.
Infact there may end up being signs and notes on the menus.
‘All our chicken is from non US sources’.

They can’t force it on people’s plates.
Consumer power.

user104658 02-03-2019 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 10462975)
TS has a point.Just because US chicken will be available to us doesn’t mean we’ll have to buy it.Just vote with your pockets and buy UK/Euro chicken.
Let the market decide.

In restaurants if enough people explicitly say they don’t want US chicken then the restaurants won’t use it.
Infact there may end up being signs and notes on the menus.
‘All our chicken is from non US sources’.

They can’t force it on people’s plates.
Consumer power.

They already like to mark fresh meat with "British", "Scottish" etc. as a selling point and I can't see that changing.

The main concern will be processed food I imagine, where to source of the meat is less clear. But honestly who is buying chikky nug-nugs expecting them to be the healthy additive-free choice? The problems in terms of individual consumption are only ever, as always, going to be from eating junk foods in excess.

If they change pesticide regulations to match the US, on the other hand, it's another story and quite a worrying one. It's not about what gets into the food, it's about the effect that these things are having on insect populations and pollenation.

Cherie 02-03-2019 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 10462975)
TS has a point.Just because US chicken will be available to us doesn’t mean we’ll have to buy it.Just vote with your pockets and buy UK/Euro chicken.
Let the market decide.

In restaurants if enough people explicitly say they don’t want US chicken then the restaurants won’t use it.
Infact there may end up being signs and notes on the menus.
‘All our chicken is from non US sources’.

They can’t force it on people’s plates.
Consumer power.

That not the point though, we shouldn't be importing sub standard products after Brexit just to get 'a deal' otherwise the UK is being held hostage to an even worse scenario than we currently have....I thought the whole point of Brexit was that we held our own destiny in our hands, not that you best take this sub standard crap otherwise we aint playing ......the idea that Brexiteers are even on board with this scenario is pretty laughable...looks like a case of well obvs I won’t be eating it but some other mug can have the pleasure


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