Sturgeon sets ball in motion for IndyRef2 by 2021
 

Here we go!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-s...itics-48012145

I want independence to happen, but I just don’t see it happening :(

Hope the government punish Scotland and remove the British business out of the country

It's going too happen

Ready for Scotland to be evicted. Only thing that would be sweeter is if we could vote them out ourselves hehe.

Get on with it then. **** em off out of it

Just iconic

English Brexiteers will be more pleased about this than anyone else; one step closer to the ultimate goal of inbred backwater isolationism :thumbs:.

Why would they want to be "independent" of the UK, but still in the EU?

Bc the UK is going down the ****ter and the EU isn’t

I believe the answer is English politics

You can keep it

I've got a Scottish grandparent from each of my parents, so I'd have a claim for citizenship if Jockxit really did happen 8-)

They're completely separate and entirely different entities.
The UK is highly undemocratic for the smaller nations and constitutionally dysfunctional.

So how are they different?

Awoooooo ready to see the breakup of the UK :devil:

Pour the fuel on the fire for Yorkshire nationalism too :dazzler:

:fan: out of the frying pan

So Brexit supporters believe that the EU has comparable control over local level politics in the UK to the control that Westminster has over Scotland? Ahh I guess I understand the desire for Brexit now. If I had been deluded into thinking that I'd probably want it, too.

I'm not a Brexit supporter not sure where you got that idea from?

what you guys need is to get a UK wide vote on it, you would be out before you could say ach aye de nooo :hehe:

Eject them all and convert the land into prisons.

I said virtually the same thing last time there was a thread like this... and TS got so upset he got most of not the whole thread deleted.

However... I agree.

put away your crystal ball TS as it never makes a good look

oor Nicky laying oot her plans

Brexit is just an excuse, she would have wanted a second referendum whatever happened

Oh yes, they were muttering about it before Brexit.

*digs out his YES poster

Is that, yes, I want to stay? Or yes, I want to leave?

It's not often LT and TS are on the same page, we must rejoice!

Id like to know what ARISTA has to say about his wee figure of a dog I found in a box from auction, this is on the base :oh:

But by 2021
whoever is PM
will say NO.

Let them have their referendum, the situation has changed since the last time and they deserve the chance to decide if they want to stick with us or with the EU.

But one person will have the say in 2021
and whoever is the PM will say No.

But with Brexit done
the PM of the UK, whoever it is,
will not allow the Vote

Scotland is a smaller, uh, "nation", and it has its own things like free university and giving votes to 16, year olds.

I was referring to Oliver's suggestion that Scottish Indy and Brexit are directly comparable / the idea that the EU had as much control over the UK as Westminster has over Scotland... more pointing out that people seem to believe that the EU is FAR more controlling than it actually is.

And there's no need to be racist :nono:. It's "och", and also, the Scottish dialect is phonetically complete and so we enunciate the "th" sound and thus would never say "de noo". Were not Irish :hmph:

ach aye de nooo?

dont they deliver groceries for Waitrose or summat?

It's because us Irish have hung onto a part of our language and there's no such sound in Irish as how th sounds in English. In Irish the t just becomes silent and it's just the h sound :hee:

So how much control does the UK as a whole have over Scotland, what UK-wide laws etc do you oppose, apart from Brexit?

I oppose the entire UK benefits system, for a start, and UK wide (London-centric) economic policies have been utterly disastrous for Scotland over the last four decades. It's not about "wanting to change laws". Scotland and the bulk of England are socially an economically very different and English policies CONSISTENTLY fail to bother with implications north of the border. It has improved marginally with devolution and is still improving, until recently I would have accepted devo-max (full devolution of taxation and the social security budget) as an OK alternative to full indy... but Brexit isn't a minor consideration and Scotland will suffer badly from being locked into the isolationist hillbilly economy of the detached UK rather than the EU common market. There's no "apart from Brexit" any more. It is a major consideration.

oop, that'll be exciting, the second ref

What is your point? It’s called devolution sweetie. Some powers are devolved but it’s not enough.

im amazed wales are not calling for this too

what is matter with them>?