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Beso 26-04-2019 09:21 PM

Corbyn spits the hypocritical dummy out again.
 
Not going to trumps state dinner, but goes to the Chinese leaders one, ping I think his name is...so he has a right bad rep on human rights yeah, but corbyn goes to that...but trumps.. oh no..what a mug...

Beso 26-04-2019 09:46 PM

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...tacks-theresa/

Marsh. 26-04-2019 09:49 PM

I'm sure who Corbyn chooses to have dinner with is one of the most pressing issues we face in the world today. Right up there with which beverages Abbott enjoys on a London train.

Beso 26-04-2019 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10531399)
I'm sure who Corbyn chooses to have dinner with is one of the most pressing issues we face in the world today. Right up there with which beverages Abbott enjoys on a London train.

She was manspreading as well...imagine wakening up 5 minutes from your stop faced with that.:nono:

Marsh. 26-04-2019 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10531403)
She was manspreading as well...imagine wakening up 5 minutes from your stop faced with that.:nono:

I was more offended by the leopard print tbh.

joeysteele 26-04-2019 09:58 PM

I agree with him.
I agree Trump should visit in a general sense but not a full of pomp State visit.
No way.

Beso 26-04-2019 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10531405)
I was more offended by the leopard print tbh.

Bloody labour eh...if they ain't lounging about on the aisle floors getting in everyone's way when there are seats available they are acting like the loutish scum we want off our trains.

Oliver_W 26-04-2019 10:31 PM

I know he meets with literal terrorists like Hamas, Hezbollah, and the IRA; and I know the USA is one of our most important allies, but ... [chokes back tears] Twrump says some naaastyy things!!111 [/chokes back tears]

Beso 26-04-2019 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10531452)
I know he meets with literal terrorists like Hamas, Hezbollah, and the IRA; and I know the USA is one of our most important allies, but ... [chokes back tears] Twrump says some naaastyy things!!111 [/chokes back tears]

But but but.. its his climate issues....sorry guys im going to have to leave you with my smarmy cheeay teethed grin cause i got to fly...got a meeting at some martyrs grave stone to attend...

joeysteele 27-04-2019 07:57 AM

The Lib Dem leader Cable has also turned down the invite too.

One the better decisions of Cable too.

Meet Trump business like, fair enough, attend a meal/banquet in his honour.
No way, not a chance would I expect Party leaders other than Theresa May, to support that.

Crimson Dynamo 27-04-2019 07:58 AM

he is a petty vindictive oaf - a typical lefty so in love with his own ideas and faux morality that he is blinded by his hypocrasy and acrimonious demeanour

and lol, like Donald 1. knows who he is, 2. cares

bots 27-04-2019 08:55 AM

The speaker declined too i believe.

I don't like Donald at all so I couldn't really care, but, for arguments sake, say the UK had another GE over the next couple of months and Corbyn became PM, how do people think that would then pan out for the UK, setting up trade deals and the "special" relationship then?

Trump can also be petty and vindictive, and the UK wouldnt come out on top of that .... particularly having isolated itself from being part of the EU


Corbyn just doesnt think past his protester roots, he isn't cut out to be a leader on the world stage. Simple

Oliver_W 27-04-2019 09:28 AM

It's like they're saying on LBC, it's the "position" which has been invited - it's about POTUS, not Trump himself.

I just hope the protesters can respect the anniversary of D-Day and hold off.

chuff me dizzy 27-04-2019 09:36 AM

Happy to break bread with the IRA and terrorists but not the elected leader of the USA ,he's a dirty lowlife

user104658 27-04-2019 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10531452)
I know he meets with literal terrorists like Hamas, Hezbollah, and the IRA; and I know the USA is one of our most important allies, but ... [chokes back tears] Twrump says some naaastyy things!!111 [/chokes back tears]

I mean this is an entirely false comparison as he has stated clearly that he would be happy to meet Trump for political debate and discussion, he's just opposed to him being thrown a lavish state red carpet banquet.

Until Corbyn expresses a desire to hold a lavish state visit for Hamas or the IRA it's not a direct comparison.

Being OK with the Chinese president (when China is still guilty of countless human rights violations, rampant censorship, etc) is a little hypocritical, however.

Cherie 27-04-2019 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10531568)
The speaker declined too i believe.

I don't like Donald at all so I couldn't really care, but, for arguments sake, say the UK had another GE over the next couple of months and Corbyn became PM, how do people think that would then pan out for the UK, setting up trade deals and the "special" relationship then?

Trump can also be petty and vindictive, and the UK wouldnt come out on top of that .... particularly having isolated itself from being part of the EU


Corbyn just doesnt think past his protester roots, he isn't cut out to be a leader on the world stage. Simple

That is a very good point tbf

joeysteele 27-04-2019 11:00 AM

Well any trade deals with the USA are also likely to take years to finalise.
Trump may not even be there in a couple of years time.

The overtures to the present government from Trump and the other politicians in the USA seem to be developing conditions that haven't been acceptable to the UK before.

Corbyn has always said he'll deal and meet with Trump on a business level.
That's fine by me.

Hopefully however Trump is gone in a couple of years from office.
That could change most things for the better.

bots 27-04-2019 11:22 AM

We all know how petulant Trump is. To snub him personally effectively destroys any future relationship the 2 could have. It's not really up to Corbyn to pick and choose when to snub him and when to talk. It doesn't work that way, particularly when negotiating from a place of weakness.

The Slim Reaper 27-04-2019 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10531646)
We all know how petulant Trump is. To snub him personally effectively destroys any future relationship the 2 could have. It's not really up to Corbyn to pick and choose when to snub him and when to talk. It doesn't work that way, particularly when negotiating from a place of weakness.

How did we end up in this position of weakness? I thought Brexit was the answer to all of our prayers?

Alf 27-04-2019 11:31 AM

It isn't an insult to Trump, he won't care, it's an insult to the American people whom elected him as their President.

Marsh. 27-04-2019 11:32 AM

The majority of the American people didn't want him. Doubt they care.

Oliver_W 27-04-2019 11:33 AM

I think it's more of an insult to those who were at D-Day than anything else, as the anniversary is the purpose of his visit.

The Slim Reaper 27-04-2019 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10531656)
It isn't an insult to Trump, he won't care, it's an insult to the American people whom elected him as their President.

https://media0.giphy.com/media/qE7OssOtzKvAI/giphy.gif

If you'd have polled the British people (right, left, and centre) before Trump was elected, what they thought of Americans, then the overall opinions would have been mixed to say the least, but since Trump we must all worry about being more subservient.

Alf 27-04-2019 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10531657)
The majority of the American people didn't want him. Doubt they care.

That's OK then.

Alf 27-04-2019 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10531660)
https://media0.giphy.com/media/qE7OssOtzKvAI/giphy.gif

If you'd have polled the British people (right, left, and centre) before Trump was elected, what they thought of Americans, then the overall opinions would have been mixed to say the least, but since Trump we must all worry about being more subservient.

Oh I didn't know that, well that's OK then, bravo Jeremy.

Marsh. 27-04-2019 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10531661)
That's OK then.

It is.

The Slim Reaper 27-04-2019 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10531664)
Oh I didn't know that, well that's OK then, bravo Jeremy.

Take Jeremy and Trump out of the equation, and do you really think most people give a crap about upsetting the American people?

Alf 27-04-2019 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10531666)
Take Jeremy and Trump out of the equation, and do you really think most people give a crap about upsetting the American people?

I don't know, because people are different, I know that if our head of state (the Queen) was snubbed by Hilary Clinton, and protested by the American people, I'd find it insulting to our state.

The Slim Reaper 27-04-2019 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10531669)
I don't know, because people are different, I know that if our head of state (the Queen) was snubbed by Hilary Clinton, and protested by the American people, I'd find it insulting to our state.

That's fair enough, no one can tell you how to feel. Wouldn't bother me at all, even if it was Trump.

Kazanne 27-04-2019 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 10531585)
Happy to break bread with the IRA and terrorists but not the elected leader of the USA ,he's a dirty lowlife

Have to agree with you here Chuff , why are people so blinded to the awful leaders we have welcomed here before ,far worse than Trump , people really need to think especially when they are protesting against him , I don't think it's a good idea for the US to see how petty some of us can be.he maybe unlikable to us but we really need to stop with the tantrums take it with grace he wont be here that long.

Kazanne 27-04-2019 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10531669)
I don't know, because people are different, I know that if our head of state (the Queen) was snubbed by Hilary Clinton, and protested by the American people, I'd find it insulting to our state.

I agree,I find it quite embarrassing, lets have some dignity for once.

Marsh. 27-04-2019 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10531669)
I don't know, because people are different, I know that if our head of state (the Queen) was snubbed by Hilary Clinton, and protested by the American people, I'd find it insulting to our state.

Except, as they're different people, that wouldn't happen.

If the Queen was anything like Trump we'd probably see it exactly for what it is. The American people probably do too.

Alf 27-04-2019 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10531688)
Except, as they're different people, that wouldn't happen.

If the Queen was anything like Trump we'd probably see it exactly for what it is. The American people probably do too.

Doesn't matter, they're both Heads of State, we're not insulting Trump, we're insulting USA the state.

Marsh. 27-04-2019 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10531691)
Doesn't matter, they're both Heads of State, we're not insulting Trump, we're insulting USA the state.

Show me all the offended Americans.

You couldn't possibly be getting offended on their behalf just out of a dislike of Corbyn anyway?

Surely not?

Beso 27-04-2019 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10531696)
Show me all the offended Americans.

You couldn't possibly be getting offended on their behalf just out of a dislike of Corbyn anyway?

Surely not?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.for...ent-trump/amp/

user104658 27-04-2019 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 10531629)
Well any trade deals with the USA are also likely to take years to finalise.
Trump may not even be there in a couple of years time.

The overtures to the present government from Trump and the other politicians in the USA seem to be developing conditions that haven't been acceptable to the UK before.

Corbyn has always said he'll deal and meet with Trump on a business level.
That's fine by me.

Hopefully however Trump is gone in a couple of years from office.
That could change most things for the better.

In theory it could even strengthen the position with a future Trump-skeptical president, gaining some respect for not flopping at Trump's feet for the hope of a trade deal. However... I have a horrible feeling that Trump will get a full 8 years :worry:.

joeysteele 27-04-2019 01:27 PM

Is any other Party leader going to this State banquet for Trump other than Theresa May.

This State banquet is not about D Day.
There likely wouldn't be a State banquet if Trump wasn't here.

I have no respect for Trump and don't believe he warrants it either in my view.
Any political Leader refusing an invite to be at this banquet 'for him, does however gain my respect.

Northern Monkey 27-04-2019 01:32 PM

Well.

Trump’s not a Commie like Xi Jinping.They wouldn’t have much to talk about.

Alf 27-04-2019 01:37 PM

This is all because Hillary lost. That's the core.

user104658 27-04-2019 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10531750)
This is all because Hillary lost. That's the core.

Yes Alf, Trump is president "because Hillary lost". Sure. Believe that and you'll believe anything :facepalm:.


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