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thebeanboy23 09-06-2007 10:44 AM

I Saw it. Emily is Sorry
 
I was on BBLB yesterday! (the guy that dermot spoke to at the beginning and said i was like a seal coz i was so excited)

and i saw emily after her interview. As soon as she went off air she burst into tears proving it ISNT for the cameras.
She was devastated! I Had to Comfort her!!

andybigbro 09-06-2007 10:46 AM

Thanks for telling us, but you will have lot of mopre convincing to convince these guys lol

Ruth*Star 09-06-2007 10:48 AM

Thanks for telling us but like andy said theres alot more convincing to do.

Arneldo 09-06-2007 10:52 AM

I'm sure she is. Still doesn't take back what she said though.

GiRTh 09-06-2007 11:27 AM

I saw hte interview and I thought it was genuine. I don't think she needs to take back what she said. I think she needs to move on and learn from this expereince.

Fanboy_Luke 09-06-2007 11:30 AM

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Originally posted by GiRTh
I saw hte interview and I thought it was genuine. I don't think she needs to take back what she said. I think she needs to move on and learn from this expereince.
Totally agree.

MaDdOctoR 09-06-2007 12:46 PM

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Originally posted by GiRTh
I saw hte interview and I thought it was genuine. I don't think she needs to take back what she said. I think she needs to move on and learn from this expereince.
I think she even said that she can't take it back...

WalkOfShame 09-06-2007 04:51 PM

Vanessa Feltz said that she went off crying!

Rory 09-06-2007 04:57 PM

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Originally posted by GiRTh
I saw hte interview and I thought it was genuine. I don't think she needs to take back what she said. I think she needs to move on and learn from this expereince.
Agree. She clearly didn't mean it in a racially offensive way, but by the way she let it slip made it seem like it's common vocabulary for her.

I felt really bad for her in the Diary Room and on BBLB. :(

serensilver 09-06-2007 05:23 PM

she shouldn't have said it and it's a disgrace that she did what an awful thing to say to somebody and it's all very well saying sorry but it shouldn't have been said!:nono:

donney14 09-06-2007 05:23 PM

Emily sorry
 
ya she is she was sayin sorry after every Q

MaDdOctoR 09-06-2007 05:49 PM

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Originally posted by serensilver
she shouldn't have said it and it's a disgrace that she did what an awful thing to say to somebody and it's all very well saying sorry but it shouldn't have been said!:nono:
by that, it really shouldn't be said in Rap songs or in films either.

the_chosen_one 09-06-2007 06:55 PM

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Originally posted by MaDdOctoR
Quote:

Originally posted by serensilver
she shouldn't have said it and it's a disgrace that she did what an awful thing to say to somebody and it's all very well saying sorry but it shouldn't have been said!:nono:
by that, it really shouldn't be said in Rap songs or in films either.
Precisely. The double standard and contradictions is causing havoc with this debate.

She said sorry for the offence caused, and she meant it. Girth put it best, it's something to learn from.

Bells 09-06-2007 06:59 PM

Simply by watching the interview rather than being there, I knew she was. Despite what I've read in the papers, I do feel what she said to Charley was simply from a lack of knowledge. But because of the way she handled the situation, she got an opportunity and did the best she could to put across how she felt. IMO she can now concentrate on getting back to normal with less difficulties.

GiRTh 09-06-2007 07:01 PM

You might want to edit this Ash.

Chanelle_is_sexy 09-06-2007 07:03 PM

no i never thought that it was for cameras
i think that emily was treated a bit harsh but howeva tht was da only thing that big bro could do coz of wot appened in cbb

ttw 09-06-2007 07:05 PM

I do believe emily was sorry for what she did, but not just because she cried.

Jade, Jo and Danielle cried too.

GiRTh 09-06-2007 07:06 PM

"IMO she can not concentrate on getting back to normal with less difficulties. " Is that what you meant to type. Is the 'not' supposed to be 'now'

Crystal-Rose 09-06-2007 07:21 PM

i think she is genuinely sorry from what i saw on BBLB

BigBrotherFan..* 09-06-2007 10:20 PM

dont need to convince me !! i believe shes so sorryy! felt sorry for her on bblb :( miss her!! BRING EMILY BACK

GhettoSuperstar 09-06-2007 11:26 PM

I feel a tiny bit sorry for her.

x-Sapphire-x 10-06-2007 01:47 AM

Text Speech isn't allowed on TiBB - Post removed - Red

Emilee 10-06-2007 11:39 AM

The interview was horrible to watch.
She is so sorry for what she has done.
Nothing is fake.

Riz 10-06-2007 11:05 PM

awww poot emily... that was so sad... :(!

Red Moon 10-06-2007 11:08 PM

If the recent press is anything to go by she has said this sort of thing before. I hope she is really sorry this time and mends her ways.

nodisharmony 10-06-2007 11:20 PM

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Originally posted by ttw
I do believe emily was sorry for what she did, but not just because she cried.

Jade, Jo and Danielle cried too.
She is sorry & it wasn't that bad at all.

Also, you are right:- Jade, Jo & Danielle were very sorry & cried too. All decent people.

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nodisharmony :angel:

MaDdOctoR 11-06-2007 12:08 AM

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Originally posted by nodisharmony
Quote:

Originally posted by ttw
I do believe emily was sorry for what she did, but not just because she cried.

Jade, Jo and Danielle cried too.
She is sorry & it wasn't that bad at all.

Also, you are right:- Jade, Jo & Danielle were very sorry & cried too. All decent people.

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nodisharmony :angel:
I don't think that's what ttw meant.

Jo Jade and Danielle cried on camera....Emily Didn't....we only found out that she cried via Vanessa Feltz

nodisharmony 11-06-2007 09:06 AM

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Originally posted by MaDdOctoR


I don't think that's what ttw meant.

Jo Jade and Danielle cried on camera....Emily Didn't....we only found out that she cried via Vanessa Feltz

Whether cries 2% or 18% I simply won't look at the %

What I do instead, is look at the evidence & then make a judgement on that.

What I also don't do, is accuse Emily of being a racist person, just because she said the (N) word on that particular day & time.

Remember, it was said in a certain way too.






nodisharmony :angel:

GiRTh 11-06-2007 09:15 AM

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Originally posted by nodisharmony
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Originally posted by MaDdOctoR


I don't think that's what ttw meant.

Jo Jade and Danielle cried on camera....Emily Didn't....we only found out that she cried via Vanessa Feltz

Whether cries 2% or 18% I simply won't look at the %

What I do instead, is look at the evidence & then make a judgement on that.

What I also don't do, is accuse Emily of being a racist person, just because she said the (N) word on that particular day & time.

Remember, it was said in a certain way too.






nodisharmony :angel:
Why does it matter that it was said in a certain way?

nodisharmony 11-06-2007 10:17 AM

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Originally posted by GiRTh

Why does it matter that it was said in a certain way?

So far as Endemol is concerned, it doesn't matter how it was said. The (N) word was said, end of....

Bye, Bye...Emily.

We all saw that:rolleyes:

However, as Emily has explained the situation & the footage is pretty clear, to how it was said, it does place Emily in a better light.

If she had have been angry with Charley & said the (N) word in a very offensive manner, it may have been viewed much worse.





nodisharmony :angel:

GiRTh 11-06-2007 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nodisharmony

So far as Endemol is concerned, it doesn't matter how it was said. The (N) word was said, end of....

Bye, Bye...Emily.

We all saw that:rolleyes:

However, as Emily has explained the situation & the footage is pretty clear, to how it was said, it does place Emily in a better light.

If she had have been angry with Charley & said the (N) word in a very offensive manner, it may have been viewed much worse.





nodisharmony :angel:
I have not revealed this as yet because it will be viewed as a minor point. I watched the incident and when Emily used the word I became quite angry. The reason for my anger was the presence of the word ‘you’. Emily said ‘you nigger’. If she’d have said 'you’re pushing it out nigger’ then the use of the word would be different. It’s a small point, I know, but it is significant. This word has so many meanings and it’s use is so sensitive. The presence of the word ‘you’ makes a significant difference, trust me. The ‘you’ means that she was actually calling Charley this word. That means that it could easily have been taken the wrong way. It’s complicated but do you understand that? So the fact that Emily didn’t say the word in an angry way makes no difference. She said it in a very disrespectful way. Definitely.

GiRTh 11-06-2007 12:51 PM

Nodis needs to read my post above. it answers a point he's made in another thread.

No. I don't believe Emily was trying to act black. I dont think she meant any offence but the way she used the word is not the way I've ever heard any black person use that word in a playful manner. A disrespectful manner - yes. And that is all down to the word 'you' being used as well.

nodisharmony 11-06-2007 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GiRTh

I have not releaved this as yet because it will be viewed as a minor point. I watched the incident and when Emily used the word I became quite angry. The reason for my anger was the presence of the word ‘you’. Emily said ‘you nigger’. If she’d have said 'you’re pushing it out nigger’ then the use of the word would be different. It’s a small point, I know, but it is significant. This word has so many meanings and it’s use is so sensitive. The presence of the word ‘you’ makes a significant difference, trust me. The ‘you’ means that she was actually calling Charley this word. That means that it could easily have been taken the wrong way. It’s complicated but do you understand that? So the fact that Emily didn’t say the word in an angry way makes no difference. She said it in a very disrespectful way. Definitely.
The way you view this situation is understandable, simply because you have scrutinized Emily's use of the word & like you said, it's the "you, (N) word".

Sadly, Emily is in the BB house. She should be more than aware that the (N) word is a "Racist word" & will NEVER be accepted by BB, not ever...

However, she did say the (N) word, so we all ask ourselves, "WHY?"

I shall explain. "Emily just did it" She said the (N) word. She said it exactly as we saw it & that is the situation.

She explained why she said it & that is her explaination. Why would she say it to Charley herself, right in front of her & knowing that the word is a Racist word, she must have a reason.

Emily has explained herself fully on the matter & beyond that, there is little you can do, but analyse it all.

But we still get back to Endemol & Channel 4 for allowing the Racist word to be aired & that is a terrible thing to do, as it kind of plays down the (N) word itself.

If I was in charge of the show. I would have beeped the word out completely. But kept everything else in, that wasn't racist.

Accusing Emily of being a racist person generally, just because of this one incident is taking things a bit too far.






nodisharmony :angel:

GiRTh 11-06-2007 01:10 PM

I have never at any point accused Emily of racism but she did say the word in a respectful manner. I don't accept any body's claim that it was a minor incident. It wasn't

nodisharmony 11-06-2007 01:13 PM

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Originally posted by GiRTh
Nodis needs to read my post above. it answers a point he's made in another thread.

No. I don't believe Emily was trying to act black. I dont think she meant any offence but the way she used the word is not the way I've ever heard any black person use that word in a playful manner. A disrespectful manner - yes. And that is all down to the word 'you' being used as well.
You've lost me in the first sentance:puzzled:

If some have said that Emily was acting Black, then that is up to them? I just watch & listen & make judgements from that. Plus listening to her own defence too.

Some may say, that she is trying to climb her way out of this?

Is that how you view it GiRTh?






nodisharmony :angel:

nodisharmony 11-06-2007 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GiRTh
I have never at any point accused Emily of racism but she did say the word in a respectful manner. I don't accept any body's claim that it was a minor incident. It wasn't
She got thrown out of the BB house & the Newspapers are having a field day once again, CBB5 time again:rolleyes:

But nobody forced Emily to open her mouth & say this Racist word, she chose to & now, must face the music, "So to speak".

I am only interested, when people wish to make it much more than it is, when it was just a bad mistake at the wrong time.

Has she said that (N) word before in her life??

"More than likely", is that a fair comment?







nodisharmony :angel:

GiRTh 11-06-2007 01:35 PM

She claims to have used the word before but I doubt it. if she knew the sensitivity of the word she'd have never used it the way she did, with 'you' before it.

the_chosen_one 11-06-2007 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GiRTh
I dont think she meant any offence but the way she used the word is not the way I've ever heard any black person use that word in a playful manner. A disrespectful manner - yes. And that is all down to the word 'you' being used as well.
I disagree. I've heard it used in that playful way with the word 'you' inserted, it's always come across as a sort of boisterous banter. I don't think it alters it in any way.

3 friends having a playful dance in the garden, it doesn't make sense for one of them to just hurl an insult at one of the others. It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.


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