Handy boris facts
 

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'Since Johnson launched his Tory leadership bid – just over 100 days ago – he has lied and misled his Party, Parliament and the public at least 80 times.'

https://insider.labour.org.uk/factch...johnson-lying/

[Johnson suggested that one of the reasons why he wanted a Queen’s Speech was to pass the Domestic Abuse Bill.
25 September 2019]

Hang on Kizzy that was Debated last week.

He could not do his Queens Speech
As Labour got the Courts to Stop Him

Now the Queens Speech arrives next week


Handy Collection
of "some" rubbish info.

Some of these are scraping the barrel a bit.

"Boris said Oxford were on the verge of something, BUT ACKSHULLY it will take about 30 years!"

"Boris said 30 new hospitals would be built without saying in what time scale, but ACKSHULY it won't be until 2025!!!"

This site could have been handy, but it soiled the bed a bit. Maybe they should have only included outright lies, rather than language policing and including things which are still in the air.

Nothing new...MPs have been doing this since the house of commons was built..on all sides..

Yep,totally TRUE :wavey:
https://medium.com/@takooba/the-moun...n-56b0c5e739e3
https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/0...d-andrew-neil/
https://order-order.com/2017/05/26/c...never-met-ira/

It includes examples of misleading information. .That's what saying things are imminent when they'll take 30 years is.
:idc:

i would say Corbyn has lied or misled more than 80 times on the subject of antisemitism alone.

It was initially due to be debated in the middle of the prorogation period, so if he'd have wanted it passed he couldve kept parliament open debated it and passed it by now :/
It's very interesting info imo.

Come on them bots put your money where your mouth is . Where are these lies?
What's that phrase again? . Whataboutism? ..

A great thread , Kizzy


Expose the lying clown

That's just word games. I'd respect the list a whole lot more if it shown ten outright LIES instead of picking at political language.

"Political language" = lies

It could be worse, he could be trying to deny the will of the people.

To you

Its a Delay
not a Lie

He is. People didn't vote for no deal

What did they vote for?

Give me a factual answer.

To leave with a deal

That's not factual, is it?

Show me that exact question on the ballot paper, if you believe that's true.

That's what was promised.

If you want to go literal we can leave the eu but stay in the single market and customs union bc they are separate things :D

Nobody asked about leaving single market or customs union on the ballot so we are staying in those
:dance:

As far as the people knew, they only signed up to be in the single market.

Why does the single market need a President, a flag, an anthem and have aspirations for an army?

That's right, you are correct.

This parliament was elected a year after the referendum
It took away the Con overall majority.
Making it a hung Parliament.
With not one MP who stood on a Party manifesto advocating leaving with, no deal.
Being elected in that election.
Not one.
UKIP slipping badly too.

Even the DUP weren't standing on a no deal brexit.
All Parties against same.

So this parliament is doing the will of the voters who elected it just 2+ years ago.

"No deal is better than a bad deal" was in the Tory manifesto. We tried a deal, but it turned out to be a bad deal, so what now?

Its trump all over again..I remember a few stories about how he had already blatantly lied hundreds of times in his first month..or something :laugh:

Having said that, politicians are not exactly known for their honesty..

Negotiate a new one, for soft brexit

It was said.

However the Con party like all others stated clearly we would get a deal.

Since you raise that point however, it may well have been one of the reasons the Cons had their overall majority taken off them.
Thinking about it.

Leads of 15% to 20% in polling should never have resulted in no overall majority for the Cons.
In around 4 weeks of a campaign.
Even with the bigger margin of error of polls now.

The voters then perhaps doubting the Cons sincerity to ensure a deal was in place, so elected a Parliament that would ensure no deal was effectively removed from the scenario.

Only reason we didn't get the deal is because of the snobbery of the EU unelected leaders..the cons are merely guilty of underestimating the people they had to deal with.

oh go fook…. :bored:

you didn't get a deal because of the snobbery of your own crappy parliament


EU gave you guys lots of time, that time i'm afraid is now up, we've had it with all that confusion going on in britain

That's not the kind of language I'd associate with a Dutch man.

You've been learning too much from my potty mouth.

They gave us lots of time so they could drink and scoff expensive wines and food while laughing at us

And who could blame them? We had 1 job... leave and protect infrastructure, rights, protections and standards while preserving the good friday agreement, and we can't even do that!

not one item you have listed has ever been a priority for someone that voted brexit. People who voted for brexit voted to leave .... and they won, and they are still waiting. As a remainer I'm happy to stay, but if I had voted to leave I would be pretty hacked off by now. May clearly stated no deal was better than a bad deal and no-one has been able to come up with an acceptable deal from any side in parliament.

I don't want a no deal situation, but we have to face facts at some point, that there will never be an acceptable deal which means we must leave without a deal.

Really workers rights, food standards and environmental protections were of no concern? The good Friday agreement was of no concern and could be torn up?...
In that case they are all in my eyes bigger fools than I thought!
We don't HAVE to do anything, whats the rush? What's 3yrs... Nothing, I don't want to be railroaded out of Europe because clearly this shower of ****e in govt want to no deal, they can get back and submit something workable!

No deal is a bad deal.. who in their right mind would want that? Hard borders, WTO rules ...madness!

If the EU was a football club with 28 players on its books and one was disruptive and wanting to leave.
In any scenario they'd let the whining one go and protect to hold onto the 27 dedicated players left.

Now no doubt you'll fire back that is a silly comparison, fair enough.
However I think not.

We applied and applied to join up to the 70s, the then EEC, we moaned all the time at De Gaulle using his veto to stop us.

We got in via the Cons once De Gaulle was gone.

We then had our governments we elected time after time, signing treaties and forming the now EU.
Thatcher one of the strongest advocates of the single market.

We got a rebate via her efforts.
We have an opt out to ever joining the Euro.

Like all EU members we have a veto too.
If one EU Nation uses its veto as we could have.
Anything we didn't want or like could not be implemented.

Now we want to leave, yet also not even want the trading elements now, we desperately wanted to be part of.

Why on earth should the EU now bend to please us and do all they can for us.
It's pathetic to think they should.

The EEC was set up without us.
We really aren't that special in the wider global picture of things.

Soft brexit is the best that can be squeezed out of the referendum result

May made a mistake with her red lines

...he’s not a Prime Minister, Kizzy...he’s just a very naughty boy..?..