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arista 10-10-2019 05:26 PM

Trump has pulled out : Turkey steps up Syria assault against Kurdish forces
 
Trump said
the Kurds pulled out of the WW2


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGgsU8pX...jpg&name=small


https://e3.365dm.com/19/10/768x432/s...20191009150615

https://news.sky.com/story/turkey-st...-flee-11832218


[Kurdish forces have halted all operations
against Islamic State in order to focus
on battling Turkish troops, according
to Kurdish and US officials.
Syrian Kurdish fighters had,
along with US forces, been tackling
the remnants of ISIS,
after the terror group was defeated earlier this year.
Urging moderation by Turkey
during its assault, Mr Trump warned
Ankara that it would be hit
hard financially if it did not "play by the rules".
]


Many have Said
the Kurds will blow up bombs
in Turkey
after this move , sadly

Twosugars 10-10-2019 05:32 PM

What a treacherous arsehole he is, poor Kurds, screwed over yet again

UserSince2005 10-10-2019 05:34 PM

i hope turkey floods the eu with it refugees haha, the eu deserve that for how they have treated them.

Alf 10-10-2019 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UserSince2005 (Post 10693247)
i hope turkey floods the eu with it refugees haha, the eu deserve that for how they have treated them.

Why, are the refugees bad people or something?

UserSince2005 10-10-2019 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10693248)
Why, are the refugees bad people or something?

of course not, they deserve to run free :devil:

arista 10-10-2019 06:22 PM

https://e3.365dm.com/19/10/768x432/s...20191010184849

arista 10-10-2019 06:23 PM

https://e3.365dm.com/19/10/768x432/s...20191010154536

arista 10-10-2019 06:29 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGiDWULW...jpg&name=small

Twosugars 10-10-2019 06:35 PM

The Kurds will have to stop guarding thousands of isis prisoners they hold

Trump is sabotaging US security, no wonder Congress Republicans are furious

GiRTh 10-10-2019 07:23 PM

So this is finally it. People are going to die based on a Trump stupid decision. Wasnt this the nightmare scenario that HRC, Obama and others envisioned?

Tom4784 10-10-2019 08:56 PM

Another indefensible decision by the draft dodger who tried to defend this decision by saying that the Kurds didn't help the Allies during WW2 which is an outright lie as they fought alongside the UK forces.

UserSince2005 10-10-2019 09:45 PM

Blaming trump for this lol since when did we all love America meddling in foreign affairs?

Also how far are we going down the timeline to assign blame? because im going to blame the big bang for all this ****.

Oliver_W 10-10-2019 09:51 PM

Oh god, more migrants will come flooding to Europe unless borders are maintained.


While I'm not a big fan of foreign interference, it's not the right time to pull out tbh

arista 11-10-2019 06:39 AM


arista 11-10-2019 12:32 PM

Syria: 70,000 people flee Turkey's offensive
against Kurdish forces


[Residents from Ras Al-Ayn and Tal Abyad
have been displaced by the escalating violence
in the region, the World Food Programme said.
People fled with their belongings loaded
into vehicles, or on foot, and UN officials
have warned that tens of thousands
of people are on the move seeking safety.]

https://news.sky.com/story/first-tur...grows-11832720

Tom4784 11-10-2019 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10693406)
Oh god, more migrants will come flooding to Europe unless borders are maintained.


While I'm not a big fan of foreign interference, it's not the right time to pull out tbh

Your first thought is immigration? Not disgust that the US are leaving their allies to be decimated because Trump owns buildings in Turkey?

Oliver_W 11-10-2019 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10693623)
Your first thought is immigration? Not disgust that the US are leaving their allies to be decimated because Trump owns buildings in Turkey?

I don't follow the war stuff - I didn't know Trump owned buildings in Turkey, and I barely knew about the Kurdish involvement.

Tom4784 11-10-2019 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10693628)
I don't follow the war stuff - I didn't know Trump owned buildings in Turkey, and I barely knew about the Kurdish involvement.

Well, you should get informed, this issue has pretty much united both sides of the aisle in the US since Trump's decision to leave their allies to die is disgusting.

Oliver_W 11-10-2019 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10693631)
Well, you should get informed, this issue has pretty much united both sides of the aisle in the US since Trump's decision to leave their allies to die is disgusting.

Looking into more I pretty much agree - by and large I'm not a fan of intervention, but when things have been established and even a passing semblence of order has been formed, pulling out without putting things in place is pretty bad.

Tom4784 11-10-2019 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10693634)
Looking into more I pretty much agree - by and large I'm not a fan of intervention, but when things have been established and even a passing semblence of order has been formed, pulling out without putting things in place is pretty bad.

That's the thing though, it's not even intervention, The US went in, the Kurds helped us and them and now they'll be branded as terrorists and killed because it suits Erdogan to do so. If the US was to go back to help the Kurds, that wouldn't be an intervention, that would be them going back to defend their allies from an attack the US allowed to happen.

It makes me so ****ing mad. Allies are allies, you don't bring someone into a war and then leave them to die by an invader's hand. It's just... Evil.

arista 11-10-2019 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10693639)
That's the thing though, it's not even intervention, The US went in, the Kurds helped us and them and now they'll be branded as terrorists and killed because it suits Erdogan to do so. If the US was to go back to help the Kurds, that wouldn't be an intervention, that would be them going back to defend their allies from an attack the US allowed to happen.

It makes me so ****ing mad. Allies are allies, you don't bring someone into a war and then leave them to die by an invader's hand. It's just... Evil.


Yes Sadly
Trump has chucked the Kurds under the bus.
Turkey is not taking over the Land
in North Syria for good.
They are setting up Camps for the Overload in Turkey
to move back into North Syria.

Twosugars 11-10-2019 05:01 PM

The US is planning to send more troops, potentially numbering in the thousands, to Saudi Arabia following an attack on its oil facilities last month, which the two countries have blamed on Iran.

Reuters reports:

[Sources familiar with the matter] did not specify exactly how many troops would be deployed or specify whether they would be replacing any other American forces that might be departing elsewhere in the region in the coming weeks or months.

The Pentagon has yet to announce, for example, whether it will replace the aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln and its strike group when it eventually wraps up its deployment to the Middle East.

One of the sources said the United States was also considering deploying additional air defenses to Saudi Arabia. That could not be immediately confirmed, however.

The Trump administration’s decision to send more resources to Saudi Arabia stands in stark contrast to the president’s withdrawal of troops from northern Syria.

Trump said earlier this week of his Syria decision: “I campaigned on the fact that I was going to bring our soldiers home, and bring them home as rapidly as possible.”
The Guardian


So much for his policy of withdrawing troops. What a scumbag

arista 11-10-2019 05:13 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/11823...jpg&name=small

arista 11-10-2019 06:09 PM

Ch4HD News and CNN HD
both report in North Syria
that Isis set off a Car Bomb
killing 4.

Twosugars 11-10-2019 06:47 PM

Turkey’s military incursion against the Kurds – US allies in the fight against Isis — is “a ****show”, said Noah. “Thanks to Trump’s impulsive decision, people are now fleeing Syria, the Turkish are now bombing the Kurds, and over 10,000 Isis fighters could be back on the loose.”

And in the midst of this disaster, Noah continued, Donald Trump “is responding the only way he knows how: by being petty as hell”. In a press conference on Thursday, Trump defended his decision by saying that the Kurds did not help the US in the second world war. (They did, in fact, assist the Allies). The argument is ridiculous, Noah said, though “to be fair, not helping in a war is one area President Bone Spurs has experience with”.

One major concern of Turkey’s attack is the likely release of many Isis prisoners, though this didn’t seem to concern Trump; asked his thoughts on the threat this could pose, he responded: “Well, they’re going to be escaping to Europe, that’s where they want to go.”

“That’s really heartless,” Noah said. Trump also needs Europe, because “without Europe, there’s no Romania. Without Romania, there’s no vampires. Without vampires, you don’t have a lawyer,” Noah said over a picture of Rudy Giuliani. “And then who would the FBI indict?”
The Guardian

arista 12-10-2019 06:17 PM

From Ch4HDnews
Live in Syria and Turkey
5 Isis Terrorist's have escaped
around 100,000 people under threat
some are staying put.


Turkey intends to move in 2 and half Million
back into Syria from his overloaded camps in Turkey.

Twosugars 12-10-2019 06:35 PM

The only silver lining is that trump's decision and Turkish actions united the region in condemnation
Saudis and iran opened channels of communication so the war on iran is less likely

Kizzy 13-10-2019 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10693639)
That's the thing though, it's not even intervention, The US went in, the Kurds helped us and them and now they'll be branded as terrorists and killed because it suits Erdogan to do so. If the US was to go back to help the Kurds, that wouldn't be an intervention, that would be them going back to defend their allies from an attack the US allowed to happen.

It makes me so ****ing mad. Allies are allies, you don't bring someone into a war and then leave them to die by an invader's hand. It's just... Evil.

Didn't we do that to Poland too...and Palestine?

Ammi 13-10-2019 05:46 AM

...the lives which are being lost is just too sickening for words...he had the power to abandon them and leave them to their deaths...and he used that power, knowing fully what that would mean...Trump owns the blood that is being shed...


...no one of his character should ever have power over human life...

bots 13-10-2019 08:35 AM

This has made me so angry because it was completely predictable. Trump must be held responsible

arista 13-10-2019 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10694453)
This has made me so angry because it was completely predictable. Trump must be held responsible


He is not.

Twosugars 13-10-2019 01:37 PM

At least 750 people with suspected links to Islamic State have reportedly fled a displacement camp in north-east Syria, local officials have said, raising fears that the Turkish offensive against Kurdish forces in the area could lead Isis to regain strength amid the chaos.
The Guardian


This is what the orange moron has achieved

Tom4784 13-10-2019 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10694584)
At least 750 people with suspected links to Islamic State have reportedly fled a displacement camp in north-east Syria, local officials have said, raising fears that the Turkish offensive against Kurdish forces in the area could lead Isis to regain strength amid the chaos.
The Guardian


This is what the orange moron has achieved

Honestly, we live in a timeline so crazy that it wouldn't surprise me if this is all a tactic to try to give rise to islamic terrorism all again so they can demonise arabic people with renewed fervour whilst taking attention away from Right Wing Terrorism.

Trump's too dumb to think that far ahead as this is just about his interests in Turkey but I bet the Republican PR machine is already working on that spin in advance.

Kizzy 13-10-2019 02:22 PM

Maybe in the new world order Turkey and the US are allies and the EU the enemy ... maybe we are out of the EU now specifically for this reason, to become a US base?

Sounds crazy but we live in crazy times. I don't trust Trump or Johnson to maintain peace or promote global harmony in fact it's the exact opposite.

arista 13-10-2019 04:40 PM

No Kizzy Turkey
does not like USA.


arista 13-10-2019 05:44 PM

A report on Ch4HD News
showed Kurds leaving by road
but later a Turkish Airforce Plane dropped
a bomb on them.
They reported 9 Died.

arista 15-10-2019 02:26 PM



USA ABC news using a fake video.


Also just reported
on WS a Female Kurdish Politician
was shot dead by Syrian Troops,(on a roadway)
a video is online,


Tom4784 15-10-2019 02:39 PM

We need more actions than just condemnation from the international community, If Trump's not gonna help the US' allies because of his own conflicts of interest then everyone else must step up with sanctions, measures, tariffs and pretty much everything that can be done to pressure Turkey and then Erdogan should be dragged in front of the UN and face justice for these war crimes.

One thing we can unfortunately learn from China is that trade is power, cease all trade with Turkey and leave them flailing in the wind. Consequences for this genocide attempt must be swift and severe.

LaLaLand 15-10-2019 05:26 PM

My Mum, sister and niece are in Turkey on holiday as we speak and they're on edge. They're in the resort towns basically the other side of Turkey from all of this but still feel for them.

So much fighting in the world. Awful.

arista 15-10-2019 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaLaLand (Post 10695885)
My Mum, sister and niece are in Turkey on holiday as we speak and they're on edge. They're in the resort towns basically the other side of Turkey from all of this but still feel for them.

So much fighting in the world. Awful.


Yes many have booked Holidays there.
Before the Trump Deal news.

At least so far
all is safe in Turkey


North Syria
is changing slowly
getting ready for all those
in Turkey Camps to return.


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