Lake District is apparently "not diverse enough"...
 

FFS leave it alone! Absolutely anyone can go to the Lake District, it's not like they have melanin barriers, how on earth can it be "weighted toward white people" ?

Able bodiedness I can kind of see, but going on leisurely hikes is more of an able bodied activity.

How crazy
leave the place alone

I mean, they're not wrong

:facepalm:

visitor figures don't lie.

We could have said trains, shops, toilets etc were for able bodied people only in the past, it doesn't make it right.

If the lake district is not attracting a diverse group of visitors then it should be looked at. Why isn't it. As a tourist destination, the more diverse it's visitors, the more visitors it attracts and therefore the more money it generates. Seems like a no brainer to me.

Quaint villages, old fashioned shops, beautiful views.
Leave it well alone, it is what it’s popular for.
If you have an interest in a place you will visit, if not you go elsewhere.:shrug:

Like I said, there's absolutely nothing stopping BAME people from taking a holiday there, so it's not something that needs to be "looked at".

As for accessibility, it's hilly countryside, not much can be done about that. Should they have miles of handrails?

This is just such a wrong attitude. If people arent made to feel welcome, they wont come and as a public park that must be looked at and improved.

For a long, long time, I took no interest in whether things in life were accessible, then in my own field of business, I discovered how trivially easy it was to make things easy for those who faced challenges and the instant enormous benefit it brought to them. I believe we have a duty to put that right, and am now an active voice for it. I will tell you something else for nothing, I don't think anything I have done has been more rewarding either.

How are people not being made to feel welcome?

Id understand more if their entire point was that disabled people can't enjoy it as much as others, but why mention something as irrelevant as ethnicity? Maybe it's just a case of different people enjoying different things.

Maybe it is hotbed of racism? :shrug: all those old white people....

I dont know, just throwing it out there for debate :)

Have you ever been?

You are white and old to a ten year old, are you racist?

Interesting theory, but I'd err on the side of "no". It's not a random little hamlet in the middle of bumblefuk nowhere. It's a popular tourist area,and people who live and work in places like that protect its reputation.

Maybe it's just something to do with all the open bodies of water :joker:

In answer to the question they probably could put in more accessible trails, not sure how you can encourage more young people or ethnicities as it’s personal choice what you do in your leisure time and some people just don’t like the countryside, or walking or fresh air, i guess they could do more in the way of advertising, never seen very much, but any time we have been it’s generally rammed especially Windermere

The old people of today are the middle-aged of the nineties, to still perpetuate the myth of the "racist old people" is a bit disengenous.

Pretty much. There's no point leaving money on the table and if a business isn't willing to change with the times, it'll be doomed to be left in the past. Lake District's core demographic is a very finite audience because it relies on older generations and when those older generations come to an end, the businesses of Lake District are gonna find themselves in the hardest of times if they can't adapt.

Trust you to attack the poster not the post :laugh:

The thread is about lake district not me. Follow the rules :)

Thatchers youth... aging yuppies.
No they won't be racist at all :laugh:

There's an issue with gentrification in the lakes I remember that being seen as an issue on my last visit, lots of places stood empty as they were 2nd homes in the country.
It would be impossible to say how to make the lakes more attractive or appealing, it is in essence natural reletively unspoiled beauty.
Where possible accessibility should be a priority and funding could be made available for this.

The issue of vehicles needs addressing again, huge 4x4 s are not suitable for those roads and are a danger.

Either that, or people will start to go as they gold older. We're not gonna run out of people whp enjoy walking in beautiful scenery any time soon.

There's no nuance with you is there?

Why am I picturing a gang of hooded kids with hammers and knives waiting outside for the poor lad being bullied telling him "we're not stopping you leaving the house. You can leave anytime!!".

:laugh2:

what ever will people think of next to justify a job

That's a ridiculous comparison as the residents and business owners in the Lake District aren't hostile toward visitors.

What people are overlooking in their outrage over this, is that the Lakes receive public funding. Its not a private entity that operates on its own funds being "forced" to act a certain way "or get shut down".

People saying "no leave it alone!"... Well... Yes, that's exactly what's being said. They need to cater better to the needs of the overall public, or they will be "left alone" to do as they please. On their own dime with no public funding.

There's absolutely nothing unfair about this situation. It's actually pretty ridiculous to suggest that they should be able to ignore these issues and then say "BUT we still want funded as a national park obvz".

How is gentrification an issue there? There's nothing wrong with having a holiday home,ours in Norfolk doesn't keep people away from Winterton :shrug:

Its a poor man's Scotland and absolutely chokka with Mountain Warehouse ramblers

give it a miss and drive another 150 miles North where you can have better scenery and not a soul in sight

Good point

Outdoors activities are ethnically neutral, so I'm not really sure what they're expected to do to make it "more" appealing...

You've got to consider the fact that younger generations won't find value in the same things as older generations, plus you have to acknowledge the fact that holidays abroad are more accessible than ever. Why go to Lake District when you can go abroad and experience different cultures and a wider variety of things to do.

Good point, but I guess the reasons for going to the Lake District are different to why you'd go to a hotter/colder/different cultured country. Plus, "staycations" are apparently on the rise, and who knows what effects Brexit will have, along with possible future changes to the flight industry with environmental stuff....

There's nothing that really needs to change, but maybe it needs more PR :joker:

You seem to think everyone white over 40 is a racist, that was the point YOU made about the thread, it’s not too much of a stretch to ask if you are racist yourself as your negative view of every white person seems to bear this out, you are happy enough to label people, I merely asked if you were

I haven’t broken any rules

What about hotels, and other accommodation, if you need a home in the area to visit there, holidays would be doomed :laugh:

They do need to advertise, that wouldn’t hurt

People sneer when holiday firms or high street chains go out of business because they have not modernised and stayed in touch with what modern society demands. Funny that the very same people are suggesting that nothing needs to change with the lake district :shrug:

I can't imagine many old folk haring about on the quads or managing the mountain biking. ..what a load of ageist wank some people come out with these days...Ive accepted not one of them have been in thier lives; and certainly don't have much of a clue about all the activities that can be enjoyed for all ages.

Who in this thread has done that?

good luck getting the Malia crew there or wheelchair users up the peaks

what the chap needs to do is find out all the things that will get him funding and then just do the bare minimum to trigger the cash - i am sure a few clever heads can get around all the silly PC red tape

Erm... that's my point. :facepalm:

Your response was that "there's absolutely nothing stopping anyone from visiting" as though a crowd of rabid white folk with pitchforks physically keeping people out is the only possible way the OP could be correct.

Just as the point about disabled has got people laughing their arses off about wheelchairs up mountains. Completely missing the point.

you talk about the place as if its butlins with a wall around it and a gate to get in. Have you actually been to the area for a holiday?