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Shaun 03-01-2020 02:34 AM

Major Iranian military official killed by US forces - Iran attack US base in Iraq
 
Not a Republican incumbent using a war to try and remain in office :idc:

Quote:

General Qasem Soleimani, the head of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards' elite Quds Force, has been killed by US forces in Iraq.

The Pentagon confirmed he was killed "at the direction of the president".

It comes after reports of a strike at Baghdad's international airport, which is said to have killed a number of people.

The death marks a huge escalation which analysts fear could lead to an Iranian response.

Gen Soleimani was a major figure in the Iranian regime. His Quds force reported directly to the country's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei and he was hailed as a heroic national figure.

US President Donald Trump tweeted an image of the American flag after the news broke.

Global oil prices meanwhile soared more than 4% in the wake of the strike.

"At the direction of the President, the US military has taken decisive defensive action to protect US personnel abroad by killing Qasem Soleimani," a Pentagon statement said.

"This strike was aimed at deterring future Iranian attack plans. The United States will continue to take all necessary action to protect our people and our interests wherever they are around the world."

The strike comes days after protesters surrounded the US embassy in Baghdad, clashing with US forces at the scene. The Pentagon said Gen Soleimani approved the attacks on the embassy.

"General Soleimani and his Quds Force were responsible for the deaths of hundreds of American and coalition service members and the wounding of thousands more," the statement said.

Iran's Revolutionary Guards said Iraqi militia leader Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis had also been killed in the US attack, blaming an attack by US helicopters.

Reports also suggest that a number of Iraq militia heads have been detained by US forces in Baghdad, although this is unconfirmed.

Since 1998, Maj Gen Qasem Soleimani led Iran's Quds Force - an elite unit in Iran's Revolutionary Guards, which handles clandestine operations abroad.

In that position Gen Soleimani played a key role bolstering Bashar al-Assad's Iranian-supported government in the Syrian Civil War, and in the fight against the Islamic State (IS) group in Iraq.

He first came to prominence in his country serving in the Iran-Iraq War in the 1980s.
Most likely won't result in WW3 but this has to be the dumbest move in decades.

Kizzy 03-01-2020 02:46 AM

Ah this will be why the latest army recruitment drive.. we don't care how fat, shy or asthmatic you are, come feed our war machine.

arista 03-01-2020 07:13 AM

https://news.sky.com/story/top-irani...rport-11900074

Its tit for tat
not WW3, Shaun.

Nicky91 03-01-2020 07:24 AM

Sulejmani was involved in many of the wars, attacks around the middle east


what our dutch middle east correspondents said on our news this morning, ''you can expect a counter attack from Iran now to avenge their fallen hero''


this was a good move from US, but a very very risky one so US should be on high alert now at their military bases in Iran, if any naval ships in the area they need to be guarded 24/7

The Slim Reaper 03-01-2020 07:39 AM


bots 03-01-2020 07:55 AM

These things can easily escalate quickly and spiral out of control. It's not helped by Trump needing a political diversion either. Iran do need to be held in check though, just hope its not ww3

The Slim Reaper 03-01-2020 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10746061)
These things can easily escalate quickly and spiral out of control. It's not helped by Trump needing a political diversion either. Iran do need to be held in check though, just hope its not ww3

Iran were held in check by the deal they signed with Obama and the EU. Trump tore that deal up so they got further into bed with China and Russia.

Ammi 03-01-2020 08:25 AM

https://i.chzbgr.com/full/9063854848...rump-photoshop

The Slim Reaper 03-01-2020 08:33 AM

https://i.gifer.com/1NRJ.gif

The Slim Reaper 03-01-2020 08:51 AM


arista 03-01-2020 10:16 AM

Its Iran
that wants a War.
Their nation has had
Riots against the Government
the past months

A War would unite the nation of Iran

The Slim Reaper 03-01-2020 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10746088)
Its Iran
that wants a War.
Their nation has had
Riots against the Government
the past months

A War would unite the nation of Iran

It's more worrying that Iran has the backing of Russia and China, but trump is too stupid to realise.

Nicky91 03-01-2020 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10746093)
It's more worrying that Iran has the backing of Russia and China, but trump is too stupid to realise.

something we already knew long time ago, in his first election campaign :laugh:

arista 03-01-2020 10:52 AM

One For Shaun


Nicky91 03-01-2020 11:33 AM

https://metro.co.uk/2020/01/03/world...eral-11993960/

''The phrase ‘World War 3’ began trending after the killing of the Iranian leader’s second in command in a US airstrike.''

Oliver_W 03-01-2020 11:39 AM

Jeez, when will our leaders ("leaders") stop kicking hornet nests?

Beso 03-01-2020 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10746093)
It's more worrying that Iran has the backing of Russia and China, but trump is too stupid to realise.

China won't jeapordise the new trade deals they have coming up with the usa in mid january...Russia just a blowbag nation..

Nicky91 03-01-2020 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10746132)
China won't jeapordise the new trade deals they have coming up with the usa in mid january…Russia just a blowbag nation..

our dutch foreign minister Blok will have discussions with Russia, trying to get more Mutual respect between them and EU, and vice versa

something what Blok wants to continue doing, otherwise Russia will divide the EU eventually

The Slim Reaper 03-01-2020 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10746132)
China won't jeapordise the new trade deals they have coming up with the usa in mid january...Russia just a blowbag nation..

Trump is actually more in need of seeing a deal over the line than China. His tariffs have been bad for the US economy and it's farmers in particular. No way he can go into an election with that hanging over him..

Twosugars 03-01-2020 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 10746137)
our dutch foreign minister Blok will have discussions with Russia, trying to get more Mutual respect between them and EU, and vice versa

something what Blok wants to continue doing, otherwise Russia will divide the EU eventually

Good luck with that.
Putin wants to destroy the EU as you well know.

Nicky91 03-01-2020 01:10 PM

i am laughing how people around the world are thinking, we are going to world war 3

when it's solely the US who are responsible for this crime against Iran, so as long as other countries don't make alliances with america they're good with Iran


and a good revenge action from Iran, would be if they destroy those precious oil fields, given US wants all of that oil

Nicky91 03-01-2020 01:17 PM

Quote:

The Iranian president, Hassan Rouhani, also issued a statement promising action in response to the killing. "Without a doubt, the great Iranian nation and other free nations in the region will take revenge on criminal America for this ghastly crime," he said.

Meanwhile Iraqi leaders vehemently condemned the assassinations, with Prime Minister Adel Abdel Mahdi warning of a "devastating" war that could engulf the region, and a top militia commander, Hadi al-Ameri, calling for action to push US troops out of the country.

“I call on national forces to unify their ranks to expel foreign forces," said Mr Ameri, a onetime protege of the Iran's Revolutionary Guard, according to state television.

“US should either remove all its bases from the region or buy coffins for its troops
a full statement from Hassan Rohani



and from his twitter account

Twosugars 03-01-2020 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 10746157)
i am laughing how people around the world are thinking, we are going to world war 3

when it's solely the US who are responsible for this crime against Iran, so as long as other countries don't make alliances with america they're good with Iran


and a good revenge action from Iran, would be if they destroy those precious oil fields, given US wants all of that oil

I think you're right, there won't be any war, just occasional provocations from both sides, and not necessarily in the region either

Crimson Dynamo 03-01-2020 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 10746157)
i am laughing how people around the world are thinking, we are going to world war 3

when it's solely the US who are responsible for this crime against Iran, so as long as other countries don't make alliances with america they're good with Iran


and a good revenge action from Iran, would be if they destroy those precious oil fields, given US wants all of that oil

Soleimani was responsible for unthinkable violence in the world, what are your views about him and the Iran attacks on US embassy in Iraq?

Oliver_W 03-01-2020 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 10746157)
i am laughing how people around the world are thinking, we are going to world war 3

when it's solely the US who are responsible for this crime against Iran, so as long as other countries don't make alliances with america they're good with Iran


and a good revenge action from Iran, would be if they destroy those precious oil fields, given US wants all of that oil

I agree that it won't come to WWIII, but I gather the line of thought is that China and Russia will join Iran in retaliation, while the UK (and others?) will join the USA...

Tom4784 03-01-2020 01:30 PM

We all knew that this election was going to be insane because as soon as Trump leaves office, he'd likely be arrested and spend the rest of his life in prison. He's fighting for his freedom in his mind and he's showing he'll burn the world down to get it.

Everything he has said about Hillary being a warmonger and that Obama would start wars to stay in power were true, but only for himself. Trump needs to be removed from power for the good of the world at this point, he will throw us all into war and he'll do so without a second thought.

With this act, Trump has become the biggest human danger to the world at this point in time. God help us all if he's doing **** like this before the 2020 race has even officially begun.

Nicky91 03-01-2020 01:33 PM

i feel for britain now, who wanted a Alliance with USA :(

Nicky91 03-01-2020 01:38 PM

also i was reading Qasem's Wikipedia profile just now

ok he did do bad things under Saddam

but he also fought with the Iraqi forces later on against ISIL, so the US murdered someone who was against terrorism, extremism

and US should think about how they killed a father of 2 sons, 2 daughters (not just about getting rid of a potential threat)

Oliver_W 03-01-2020 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 10746171)
i feel for britain now, who wanted a Alliance with USA :(

Who else are we gonna ally with - China and Russia? The USA are the best possible allies, Trump will be gone in four years so no need to burn bridges over one crazy President....

Tom4784 03-01-2020 01:43 PM

It doesn't really matter if he was a good or bad figure, the US did not have grounds to act and Trump acted without the say so of either Congress or the Senate.

Oliver_W 03-01-2020 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10746176)
It doesn't really matter if he was a good or bad figure, the US did not have grounds to act and Trump acted without the say so of either Congress or the Senate.

I agree, I tried to find a "reason" for the air strike in the articles, but couldn't. I don't think it's gonna lead to WWIII, but it was certainly unwise.

Crimson Dynamo 03-01-2020 01:51 PM

In his first comments on the strike, Mr Trump tweeted on Friday morning: "General Qassem Soleimani has killed or badly wounded thousands of Americans over an extended period of time, and was plotting to kill many more...but got caught!

"He was directly and indirectly responsible for the death of millions of people, including the recent large number of PROTESTERS killed in Iran itself.

"While Iran will never be able to properly admit it, Soleimani was both hated and feared within the country. They are not nearly as saddened as the leaders will let the outside world believe. He should have been taken out many years ago!"

The Pentagon said the US President ordered the killing of Soleimani "in a decisive defensive action to protect US personnel abroad".


"General Soleimani was actively developing plans to attack American diplomats and service members in Iraq and throughout the region. General Soleimani and his Quds Force were responsible for the deaths of hundreds of American and coalition service members and the wounding of thousands more," the Department of Defence said.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...te-quds-force/

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENUspLoX...jpg&name=small

Tom4784 03-01-2020 01:54 PM

Excuses, he wants a war because he won't likely beat any of the top three democrats otherwise.

Nicky91 03-01-2020 01:59 PM

"in a decisive defensive action to protect US personnel abroad".

the irony here, in killing general soleimani made them more a target, and in danger from Iran

while Trump could've tried peace talks at a neutral location with Rohani


as for this

''General Soleimani was actively developing plans to attack American diplomats and service members in Iraq and throughout the region.''

he did do bad bad things very long time ago yes, but recent years he was anti terrorism, anti extremism so idk which evidence they had to back their statement up :think:

Crimson Dynamo 03-01-2020 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 10746185)

he did do bad bad things very long time ago yes, but recent years he was anti terrorism, anti extremism so idk which evidence they had to back their statement up :think:

In 2018 he threatened the Americans with a war in which Iran would “destroy all that you possess".


:conf:

Beso 03-01-2020 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10746184)
Excuses, he wants a war because he won't likely beat any of the top three democrats otherwise.

I'm sure you don't mean that.

Tom4784 03-01-2020 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10746191)
I'm sure you don't mean that.

No, he's trailing hard behind all of them in the analytics and if Bernie gets the nom then he's lost the swing vote and the worker's vote that just edged him over the line in 2016.

This whole act of war is nothing more then to keep himself in power so he can avoid the inevitable consequences of his actions for a few years more.

Beso 03-01-2020 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10746192)
No, he's trailing hard behind all of them in the analytics and if Bernie gets the nom then he's lost the swing vote and the worker's vote that just edged him over the line in 2016.

This whole act of war is nothing more then to keep himself in power so he can avoid the inevitable consequences of his actions for a few years more.




I don't believe that.

arista 03-01-2020 02:28 PM

Typical Labour Emily Thornberry
supports Iran

Clip was on LBC.

Crimson Dynamo 03-01-2020 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10746201)
Typical Labour Emily Thornberry
supports Iran

Clip was on LBC.

Yes a caller called her unpatriotic and anti-American


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