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arista 08-01-2020 04:06 AM

Over 170 die as 737 crashes in flames:"unintentionally" shot down from Tehran
 
https://news.sky.com/story/airliner-...rport-11903445

This is not the war
but Tragic accident, it appears.


[Everyone on board a Ukrainian Boeing 737 died when it crashed shortly
after take off from Iran's main international airport,
according to Iran state television.
Iran's official news agency IRNA said there were at least
170 people on the plane when it came down due to technical problems
after leaving the Imam Khomeini airport in Tehran en route to Kiev.]

Shaun 08-01-2020 04:10 AM

Horrific timing, I hope it really is nothing to do with Iran/USA (even if it was an accidental kneejerk response on either part). Also hope it's nothing to do with Russia using an opportune moment to put further pressure on Ukraine.

Ammi 08-01-2020 04:30 AM

...the seconds it took for the plane to fall must have felt like a lifetime to those on board, those poor people...horrific...:sad:...

Nicky91 08-01-2020 08:16 AM

yes usually accident investigation boards don't reveal theories/findings immediately but now to prevent more drama, with the Iran/USA conflict, to rule out terrorist attack

i guess it is a good choice to do it differently this time

Kizzy 08-01-2020 08:37 AM

It was seen on fire before it fell, I really hope it was a failure of some sort :/

They didn't stand a chance :(

Toy Soldier 08-01-2020 08:46 AM

It sounds like an engine caught fire but one wonders if the airport it took off from is distracted with everything else going on in Iran, and it lead to someone or multiple people missing a problem with the aircraft?

arista 08-01-2020 10:11 AM

The Iranians have found the Black boxes,
But will not give it to Boeing
as Boeing refuse to allow Iran to buy parts
for their planes.

Due to the Sanctions.


Of Course they get the parts
in the end, from a 3rd nation seller
who can charge high prices.

parmnion 08-01-2020 10:12 AM

It passed all its tests just 2 days ago..something smells if you ask me..
I know coincidences happen, but this one is to suspicious to think accident.

arista 08-01-2020 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10750220)
It passed all its tests just 2 days ago..something smells if you ask me..
I know coincidences happen, but this one is to suspicious to think accident.




It was half full of Iranians
3 British died on the plane.

It could be a Engine problem
as they can occur any time.

Livia 08-01-2020 10:17 AM

That's quite the coincidence there...

Toy Soldier 08-01-2020 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 10750233)
That's quite the coincidence there...

OK so it was probably shot down by one or the other by accident (mistaken identity) but they've agreed that that wasn't an intended part of the narrative so it was engine failure OK?? I'm choosing to accept the comfortable lie because there's enough going on.

Livia 08-01-2020 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10750246)
OK so it was probably shot down by one or the other by accident (mistaken identity) but they've agreed that that wasn't an intended part of the narrative so it was engine failure OK?? I'm choosing to accept the comfortable lie because there's enough going on.

Ts, you sound like you need a lie down x

Kizzy 08-01-2020 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10750246)
OK so it was probably shot down by one or the other by accident (mistaken identity) but they've agreed that that wasn't an intended part of the narrative so it was engine failure OK?? I'm choosing to accept the comfortable lie because there's enough going on.

* hands ts some blinkers and 2 paracetomol.

Toy Soldier 08-01-2020 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 10750252)
Ts, you sound like you need a lie down x

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Nicky91 08-01-2020 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10750230)
It was half full of Iranians
3 British died on the plane.

It could be a Engine problem
as they can occur any time.

yes especially if any maintenance work is lacklustre and rushed

Toy Soldier 08-01-2020 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 10750271)
yes especially if any maintenance work is lacklustre and rushed

That's what I'm telling myself Nicky... there's panic and confusion in Iran at the moment (especially places like airports) and someone dropped the ball.

Otherwise, it really does seem too much like a coincidence and was probably a military error of some sort.

Toy Soldier 08-01-2020 10:48 AM

Worth mentioning that the FAA have instructed civilian aircraft not to fly over the region specifically because of the risk of being mistaken for military. Just sayin'...

The Slim Reaper 08-01-2020 10:48 AM

Remember when a plane went down in NY a couple of weeks after 9/11? I'm always amazed we don't have more plane crashes,

Toy Soldier 08-01-2020 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10750278)
Remember when a plane went down in NY a couple of weeks after 9/11? I'm always amazed we don't have more plane crashes,

TBF there's more than one a week, they're just more widely reported if there's other stuff going on so they seem more rare than they are.

Although to put THAT in perspective... there are over 1 million commercial flights a week so 2 major crashes a week is actually tiny in terms of risk.

Kizzy 08-01-2020 11:01 AM

Ukrainian Boeing 737*.... just sayin.

MTVN 08-01-2020 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10750286)
Ukrainian Boeing 737*.... just sayin.

Just sayin what :think:

Twosugars 08-01-2020 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10750286)
Ukrainian Boeing 737*.... just sayin.

It could be putin adding fuel to the fire. Hope not though.

bitontheslide 08-01-2020 01:04 PM

i dont believe in coincidence

LeatherTrumpet 08-01-2020 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10750369)
i dont believe in coincidence

i was about to post that very comment

Tom4784 08-01-2020 01:26 PM

It's an incredible and tragic coincidence if it wasn't shot down, I expect it was shot down though, the timing is far too suspicious.

Ammi 08-01-2020 05:45 PM

Tributes have been paid to British victims who were among the 176 people that died in a plane crash in Iran.

The Ukraine International Airlines (UIA) 737-800 passenger plane crashed minutes into its journey from Imam Khomeini International Airport in Tehran to the Ukrainian capital, Kyiv.

Emergency officials told Iran’s state television it was “impossible” that those on board the Boeing 737 – believed to comprise 167 passengers and nine crew members – survived the crash.

Three British victims have been identified as Saeed Tahmasebi, an engineer for Laing O'Rouke, Sam Zokaei, who worked for BP, and Mohammed Reza Kadkhoda-Zadeh, who ran a dry cleaners in West Sussex.



Full story...
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-pl...072235919.html

Kizzy 08-01-2020 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10750316)
It could be putin adding fuel to the fire. Hope not though.

Nope not him, trump is rather vengeful with people who cross him according to the interview posted the other day. Two birds one stone?

LeatherTrumpet 08-01-2020 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10750694)
Nope not him, trump is rather vengeful with people who cross him according to the interview posted the other day. Two birds one stone?

I mean wtaf

Kizzy 08-01-2020 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10750697)
I mean wtaf

Problem?

arista 08-01-2020 09:34 PM

The Pilot was going down into low housing
he managed to steer the Plan into the Field
saving it crashing into the homes.

Well done the Pilot Team.

Real sad
it appears the plane was on Fire.

parmnion 08-01-2020 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10750724)
The Pilot was going down into low housing
he managed to steer the Plan into the Field
saving it crashing into the homes.

Well done the Pilot Team.

Real sad
it appear the plane was on Fire.


The plane was on fire prior to impact...

parmnion 08-01-2020 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10750376)
It's an incredible and tragic coincidence if it wasn't shot down, I expect it was shot down though, the timing is far too suspicious.

Not shot down...Russia probably tested it and brought it down before it even got up in the air.

Edit
Probably shot down by mossad!

arista 08-01-2020 10:41 PM

[Ukraine's foreign minister Vadym Prystaiko said the flight
also included
82 Iranians,
11 Ukrainians,
10 people from Sweden,
four passengers from Afghanistan
and three from Germany.
The flight included many international students,
a family of four and newlyweds.
Nine members of crew and at
least 26 children were also on board,
according to the flight manifest.]

https://news.sky.com/story/iran-plan...anada-11904127

Cherie 09-01-2020 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10750766)
[Ukraine's foreign minister Vadym Prystaiko said the flight
also included
82 Iranians,
11 Ukrainians,
10 people from Sweden,
four passengers from Afghanistan
and three from Germany.
The flight included many international students,
a family of four and newlyweds.
Nine members of crew and at
least 26 children were also on board,
according to the flight manifest.]

https://news.sky.com/story/iran-plan...anada-11904127

so many families devastated :sad:

bitontheslide 09-01-2020 09:39 AM

the most likely scenario is that it was an iranian defence surface to air missile that mistook it for an american attack

Livia 09-01-2020 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10750921)
the most likely scenario is that it was an iranian defence surface to air missile that mistook it for an american attack

I agree.

LeatherTrumpet 09-01-2020 03:45 PM

Pentagon have confirmed


it was shot down

arista 09-01-2020 03:48 PM


MTVN 09-01-2020 04:20 PM

Looks like the Iranians shot it down accidentally

bitontheslide 09-01-2020 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10750921)
the most likely scenario is that it was an iranian defence surface to air missile that mistook it for an american attack

:smug:


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