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Kizzy 04-02-2020 01:43 PM

Juice cleanse
 
I've done this before a few years ago, anyone else tried it? Day 3 now and struggling but determined :)

thesheriff443 04-02-2020 01:58 PM

No but tell me more, is like for a detox? Weight loss?

Jessica. 04-02-2020 02:01 PM

I've never gone on a crash diet

Crimson Dynamo 04-02-2020 02:26 PM

Sounds like a fad?

Josy 04-02-2020 03:20 PM

I don't like things labelled as 'cleanse' 'detox' etc, that's why we have a liver.

Crimson Dynamo 04-02-2020 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josy (Post 10771021)
I don't like things labelled as 'cleanse' 'detox' etc, that's why we have a liver.

some of us do

:skull:

Josy 04-02-2020 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10771023)
some of us do



:skull:

Some of us do what?

Jessica. 04-02-2020 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josy (Post 10771034)
Some of us do what?

Have livers, I presume.

Josy 04-02-2020 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jessica. (Post 10771038)
Have livers, I presume.

Oh

Crimson Dynamo 04-02-2020 05:23 PM

:fist: my liver is one of the hardest working organs on tibb

(and that is saying something with all the w****** on here)


:hehe:

Cherie 04-02-2020 05:54 PM

No it doesn’t appeal to me

armand.kay 04-02-2020 05:59 PM

when i had an eating disorder, yes.

Marsh. 04-02-2020 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by armand.kay (Post 10771136)
when i had an eating disorder, yes.

:skull:

Kizzy 04-02-2020 11:16 PM

Well, there's some positive replies on here...
I have non alcoholic fatty liver disease ( I know lol!)
and recently a blood test showed I was pre diabetic :/
Decided to try get a handle on my health, and as it had worked before I'm giving it another go to try reduce my viseral fat.

The first time was after watching a film called ' Fat, sick and nearly dead' it followed a guy who reversed his chronic psoriasis via a juice fast.

I'm doing red and green days alternately,
Red is , carrot, red cabbage or beetroot, 1 green apple, 1 lemon and a piece of ginger root.

Green is, celery, cucumber, apple, lemon and ginger.

Jessica. 05-02-2020 12:53 AM

How can you expect positive replies when it's basically a starvation diet? Those things you're juicing are mostly water and the sugars won't be processed efficiently without the fibre which is removed in juicing so the calories that do actually make it in are empty ones. I could go on.

Obviously I can't comment on what you're going trough in your personal life but I hope you manage to get it under control

GoldHeart 05-02-2020 01:09 AM

But surely a diet purely on juice / blended food is not nutritional enough?? .

thesheriff443 05-02-2020 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10771547)
Well, there's some positive replies on here...
I have non alcoholic fatty liver disease ( I know lol!)
and recently a blood test showed I was pre diabetic :/
Decided to try get a handle on my health, and as it had worked before I'm giving it another go to try reduce my viseral fat.

The first time was after watching a film called ' Fat, sick and nearly dead' it followed a guy who reversed his chronic psoriasis via a juice fast.

I'm doing red and green days alternately,
Red is , carrot, red cabbage or beetroot, 1 green apple, 1 lemon and a piece of ginger root.

Green is, celery, cucumber, apple, lemon and ginger.

Well !!! I’m definitely not going to knock you for taking a step in a direction that was successful in the past.

The body at times can have fantastic self healing properties if you work with it.

Good luck with your health kizzy.

Ammi 05-02-2020 06:33 AM

...just to echo Sheriff, I wish you good luck with your health, Kizzy..:hug:..I’ve just read some stuff on Non Alcoholic Fatty Liver Disease, it’s something that I hadn’t heard of before...and improvements can be made with lifestyle changes etc, which you’re looking at....juice cleansing is something though that should always be done with medical direction..especially as there is an underlying condition..sorry that sounds a bit preachy, I don’t mean to...and maybe you’ve spoken to your GP...but I think it’s important that they help you with directive...are you able to see a nutritionist on the NHS..?...

...Sincerely good luck though..:hug:..

AnnieK 05-02-2020 06:37 AM

I'm sure Kizzy isn't going to do it for an extended period of time, just enough time to gain some benefits from it. Good luck Kizzy, my dad was diagnosed as pre diabetic and put in a support group, he made some changes to his diet, stepped up his exercise and now his blood tests show he is back in the normal limits.

Cherie 05-02-2020 06:42 AM

I have a friend who was diagnosed with NAFLD, she reversed it by eating foods that didn’t stress her liver, she cut down on red meat, processed foods, biscuits and crisps and ate a lot of fish, salad, fruit, apples in particular as the skin gets rid of cholesterol in the blood and grapes because they break down fat in the liver, also walnuts and avocado in salads last time she got her blood checked her liver function was 15 ...she is evangelical though and very determined, good luck!

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/323915.php

Kizzy 05-02-2020 09:16 AM

Thanks guys :) I know it sounds extreme, I'm getting lots of soluble fibre, I wont be doing it for long. I've also got arthritis in my knee now ... falling to bits I am lol with any luck it'll help that too.

Cal. 05-02-2020 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by armand.kay (Post 10771136)
when i had an eating disorder, yes.

!

Crimson Dynamo 05-02-2020 09:20 AM

I guess its like diabetes in that now we know that a good specific diet can reverse it so as long as a doctor is involved in the recommendations then its all good

Cal. 05-02-2020 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10771547)
Well, there's some positive replies on here...
I have non alcoholic fatty liver disease ( I know lol!)
and recently a blood test showed I was pre diabetic :/
Decided to try get a handle on my health, and as it had worked before I'm giving it another go to try reduce my viseral fat.

The first time was after watching a film called ' Fat, sick and nearly dead' it followed a guy who reversed his chronic psoriasis via a juice fast.

I'm doing red and green days alternately,
Red is , carrot, red cabbage or beetroot, 1 green apple, 1 lemon and a piece of ginger root.

Green is, celery, cucumber, apple, lemon and ginger.

I do remember you saying it was working for you last time you did it mind

Cherie 05-02-2020 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10771648)
I guess its like diabetes in that now we know that a good specific diet can reverse it so as long as a doctor is involved in the recommendations then its all good

tbh you don't need a GP to oversee healthy eating

Niamh. 05-02-2020 09:32 AM

Sorry to hear about your health issues Kizzy, best of luck with your diet :love:

Kizzy 05-02-2020 01:32 PM

Thanks :hug: you know me, as they say ' I get knocked down but I get up again!' ;)

Josy 05-02-2020 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10771547)
Well, there's some positive replies on here...
I have non alcoholic fatty liver disease ( I know lol!)
and recently a blood test showed I was pre diabetic :/
Decided to try get a handle on my health, and as it had worked before I'm giving it another go to try reduce my viseral fat.

The first time was after watching a film called ' Fat, sick and nearly dead' it followed a guy who reversed his chronic psoriasis via a juice fast.

I'm doing red and green days alternately,
Red is , carrot, red cabbage or beetroot, 1 green apple, 1 lemon and a piece of ginger root.

Green is, celery, cucumber, apple, lemon and ginger.

Sorry to hear that Kizzy, maybe be better to ask the doctor if a juice cleanse is a good idea with your diagnosis?

One of my friends in work has NAFLD, she tries to stick to eating lots of fresh fruit and veg and drinks these little protein packets twice a day I think she said they are probiotics?

Weirdly though she doesnt eat 3 meals a day but instead eats lots of smaller meals, she seems to be constantly nibbling lol

She walks a massive amount if steps per day too for exercise.

Twosugars 05-02-2020 03:05 PM

Intermittent fasting is beneficial. Like LT said, you can reverse diabetes 2 with that.

Is it a 5/2 diet Kizzy? (5 days normal diet and 2 fasting)?

Kizzy 05-02-2020 09:04 PM

I wish i was disciplined enough for 5/2, its all or nothing im afraid even though I think intermittent fasting is a great idea for health especially for those with chronic illness.

Working shifts I have totally lost any concept of balance in my diet and have lived of snacks for months and months :(
With any luck getting rid of my sugar and carb cravings will allow me to get back to basics and start enjoying a healthier diet going forward. I'm paying a yearly membership of our local pool/ gym next month to when this is all finished and I've dropped a bit of weight.
feeling very motivated :) Thanks again all! :love:

Zizu 05-02-2020 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10772314)
I wish i was disciplined enough for 5/2, its all or nothing im afraid even though I think intermittent fasting is a great idea for health especially for those with chronic illness.

Working shifts I have totally lost any concept of balance in my diet and have lived of snacks for months and months :(
With any luck getting rid of my sugar and carb cravings will allow me to get back to basics and start enjoying a healthier diet going forward. I'm paying a yearly membership of our local pool/ gym next month to when this is all finished and I've dropped a bit of weight.
feeling very motivated :) Thanks again all! :love:



What’s stopping you trying 16/8 ??

Just means missing your breakfast each morning really ..


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Josy 05-02-2020 09:32 PM

I'm a massive fan of good ol calorie deficit tbh.

It's the only scientifically proven way to lose weight, all these other things are basically fads and none are sustainable in the long term.

Zizu 05-02-2020 09:42 PM

Juice cleanse
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Josy (Post 10772367)
I'm a massive fan of good ol calorie deficit tbh.

It's the only scientifically proven way to lose weight, all these other things are basically fads and none are sustainable in the long term.



Five years is a fad ?

When you see elite Olympic level athletes turning to intermittent fasting you know you’re onto something good .


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Zizu 05-02-2020 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10771648)
I guess its like diabetes in that now we know that a good specific diet can reverse it so as long as a doctor is involved in the recommendations then its all good



Yes and again intermittent fasting has been shown to successfully reverse type two diabetes.. . done properly


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Josy 05-02-2020 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 10772380)
Five years is a fad ?

When you see elite Olympic level athletes turning to intermittent fasting you know you’re onto something good .


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It's not a life time way of eating so yes, a fad.

Twosugars 05-02-2020 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 10772380)
Five years is a fad ?

When you see elite Olympic level athletes turning to intermittent fasting you know you’re onto something good .


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In my understanding Josy approves of intermittent fasting when she talks of calorie deficit.

Twosugars 05-02-2020 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josy (Post 10772391)
It's not a life time way of eating so yes, a fad.

Oop at my previous post.

Actually it can be a way of eating.

A friend of mine always fasts on mondays for religious reasons :hee:

Same with health motivated fasting. If you get into a routine and it makes you feel better theres nothing to say you cant carry on.

Our ancestors didnt have food available all the time so it's not as if our bodies can't cope with that.

Josy 05-02-2020 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10772392)
In my understanding Josy approves of intermittent fasting when she talks of calorie deficit.

No I dont approve of I/F at all

I dont agree that fasting for periods of time throughout the day with a certain 'window's of time where you can eat is a healthy long term sustainable way to lose or keep at a healthy weight.

Josy 05-02-2020 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10772395)
Oop at my previous post.



Actually it can be a way of eating.



A friend of mine always fasts on mondays for religious reasons :hee:



Same with health motivated fasting. If you get into a routine and it makes you feel better theres nothing to say you cant carry on.



Our ancestors didnt have food available all the time so it's not as if our bodies can't cope with that.

Yes so they fast for 1 day, not every single day forever hence it not being sustainable long term

Zizu 05-02-2020 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josy (Post 10772391)
It's not a life time way of eating so yes, a fad.



Many have done it for decades .. I haven’t had breakfast for five years .

How is that a fad?


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