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Oliver_W 05-04-2020 02:51 PM

Scottish Health Minister under fire for breaking her own rules
 
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Police have issued a warning to Scotland's chief medical officer for visiting her second home in Fife during the coronavirus lockdown.

Dr Catherine Calderwood is facing mounting criticism after pictures of her family trip to Earlsferry were published in The Scottish Sun.

She apologised "unreservedly" and said she would continue to focus on her job.

There have been calls for her to step down over the matter with MSPs describing her position as "untenable".

Chief Constable Iain Livingstone confirmed that local officers spoke to Dr Calderwood earlier today.

He said they reiterated crucial advice and issued a warning about her future conduct, all of which she accepted.

"The legal instructions on not leaving your home without a reasonable excuse apply to everyone," he said.

"Social distancing is the key intervention to curtail the spread of coronavirus and it is essential the instructions are followed to protect each other, support key workers, take strain from the NHS, and save lives.

"Individuals must not make personal exemptions bespoke to their own circumstances."

Dr Calderwood has joined Nicola Sturgeon in leading calls for the public to stay at home in order to save lives and protect the NHS.

Last month, the Scottish government issued a travel warning criticising the "irresponsible behaviour" of people with second homes and campervans travelling to the Highlands in a bid to isolate.

The Scottish Sun reported that Dr Calderwood and her family were seen walking across a golf course in Earlsferry, near their second home, on Saturday.

Earlsferry is a drive of more than an hour from Edinburgh, where they have their main family home.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-52171694
What else is new about a bossy hypocrite wagging their fingers from on high and saying "do as I say and not as I do, dear oiks. Please stay inside and look the other way while I take my family to spend the weekends in my second home!"

Cherie 05-04-2020 02:55 PM

She is apologising on tv now :facepalm:

hijaxers 05-04-2020 02:57 PM

She should be sacked forthwith :fist:

Does Scotland only have one person capable of doing the job ?

arista 05-04-2020 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by hijaxers (Post 10815165)
She should be sacked forthwith :fist:


Yes Loads in Scotland
are shouting just that

arista 05-04-2020 03:33 PM


Crimson Dynamo 05-04-2020 03:59 PM

sacking offense

end of

hijaxers 05-04-2020 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10815225)
sacking offense

end of

Nicola sees fit to keep her ~ she may live to regret that decision .

bots 05-04-2020 04:12 PM

she has lost all credibility with the public, why should anyone listen to her. Her position is untenable

Crimson Dynamo 05-04-2020 04:16 PM

she isnt even scottish

Beso 05-04-2020 06:04 PM

You couldn't make it up.

Firewire 05-04-2020 06:15 PM

Foolish but wouldn't call it a sackable offence.

The PM's mistress is at her second home... Where's the outrage for her?

The Slim Reaper 05-04-2020 06:17 PM

Matt Hancock refused to answer earlier today, when he was asked if he's visited his 2nd home since lockdown.

Zizu 05-04-2020 06:38 PM

I just don’t see how she can stay in office .. she said she made A mistake yet she did it on two weekends ..

Even in her speech she cleverly skated over this weekends trip with her FAMILY saying she went this weekend and also last weekend with her husband.


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user104658 05-04-2020 06:45 PM

I don't think she can stay long term, she'll have to be replaced later this year. HOWEVER, replacing the CMO with a new person in the middle of a public health crisis doesn't seem like a very good idea. She should continue until things are more settled.

Denver 05-04-2020 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Firewire (Post 10815374)
Foolish but wouldn't call it a sackable offence.

The PM's mistress is at her second home... Where's the outrage for her?

Wasnt that because he had the virus and she was pregnant (and at the time wasnt showing symptoms)

user104658 05-04-2020 07:30 PM

Also just to nitpick, she's the chief medical. officer not health minister.

bots 05-04-2020 09:09 PM

she has resigned now

hijaxers 05-04-2020 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10816261)
she has resigned now

Yes probably being hounded but she asked for it . Completely selfish woman.

Oliver_W 05-04-2020 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10815612)
Also just to nitpick, she's the chief medical. officer not health minister.

Oops :laugh: is that the equivalent role?

James 05-04-2020 09:58 PM

Not sure this is the time for sackings / forced resignations in important positions.

arista 05-04-2020 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 10816502)
Not sure this is the time for sackings / forced resignations in important positions.


She told the Scottish Public to behave
and then Broke the Rules
Punish the Bitch.


Is only Fair.

arista 05-04-2020 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10816261)
she has resigned now

Thats only Fair

arista 05-04-2020 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10815377)
Matt Hancock refused to answer earlier today, when he was asked if he's visited his 2nd home since lockdown.


Of course its a Scottish Republic
mess

arista 06-04-2020 01:06 AM

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cp...39_metro-1.jpg

A Bit of the Free Front Page

arista 06-04-2020 07:00 AM

Well done Piers on GMBHD itv
Laying in Live at 7:48AM

to the Scottish Leader Women
Edinburgh Live (Weak Picture Web Cam , Not HD)

hijaxers 06-04-2020 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 10816666)
Well done Piers on GMBHD itv
Laying in Live at 7:48AM

to the Scottish Leader Women
Edinburgh Live (Weak Picture Web Cam)

Yes Arista she looked like she was relieved it was over at the end of it !

Babayaro. 06-04-2020 07:13 AM

I don't know if I'm being naive, but whilst this is clearly hypocritical of her, I don't see the huge deal?

If she went there with just her family (who she lives with) then surely they are not putting anyone at risk?

AnnieK 06-04-2020 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Babayaro. (Post 10816670)
I don't know if I'm being naive, but whilst this is clearly hypocritical of her, I don't see the huge deal?

If she went there with just her family (who she lives with) then surely they are not putting anyone at risk?

Its because it goes against the essential travel narrative. They have said visiting holiday homes, caravans etc is not essential.

Babayaro. 06-04-2020 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 10816671)
Its because it goes against the essential travel narrative. They have said visiting holiday homes, caravans etc is not essential.

Ah okay, I see. Thank you


Still, I don't think it warrants her losing her job.

bots 06-04-2020 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Babayaro. (Post 10816672)
Ah okay, I see. Thank you


Still, I don't think it warrants her losing her job.

it does when she is on TV every day telling people not to do that, and it wasn't a one time thing either, she did it every weekend :laugh:

Zizu 06-04-2020 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 10816671)
Its because it goes against the essential travel narrative. They have said visiting holiday homes, caravans etc is not essential.



Simply as unnecessary travelling can result in accidents and breakdowns which put further unnecessary strains on the services


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user104658 06-04-2020 10:41 AM

It's a shame that Charles will have to resign from the Royal Family and abdicate the throne to William when the queen dies, as he ****ed off up here to Balmoral after the advice not to go to holiday homes... and dripping with Covid-19.

Oh wait, what? What's that? We don't apply the same rules in that case? :omgno: I am most SHOCKED.

Cherie 06-04-2020 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10816751)
It's a shame that Charles will have to resign from the Royal Family and abdicate the throne to William when the queen dies, as he ****ed off up here to Balmoral after the advice not to go to holiday homes... and dripping with Covid-19.

Oh wait, what? What's that? We don't apply the same rules in that case? :omgno: I am most SHOCKED.

I didn't know this where was he when he was diagnosed with Covid?

user104658 06-04-2020 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10816771)
I didn't know this where was he when he was diagnosed with Covid?

I think he was already there when he was diagnosed, he didn't travel there already ill or anything, but it was definitely after the advice not to go to holiday homes had been released (because we had already cancelled our pre-booked holiday in the highlands). And the fact that he came down with Covid while he was there and probably did have it before he travelled is exactly WHY you're not supposed to travel even if well. There's a very good chance he infected at least some of the Balmoral staff :shrug:.

But no one has had more than a passing word to say about that, whereas the CMO going to her holiday house has had her branded a selfish demon and forced to resign. I'm actually not even saying she didn't make a stupid decision or didn't deserve to be chastised for it... I'm just wondering why Charlie gets a pass. Well, I'm not wondering why, really we all know why (he's first-tier royalty, and he's male) ... I'm just irked by it.

Imagine it was Meghan Markle :umm2:

bots 06-04-2020 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10816775)
I think he was already there when he was diagnosed, he didn't travel there already ill or anything, but it was definitely after the advice not to go to holiday homes had been released (because we had already cancelled our pre-booked holiday in the highlands). And the fact that he came down with Covid while he was there and probably did have it before he travelled is exactly WHY you're not supposed to travel even if well. There's a very good chance he infected at least some of the Balmoral staff :shrug:.

But no one has had more than a passing word to say about that, whereas the CMO going to her holiday house has had her branded a selfish demon and forced to resign. I'm actually not even saying she didn't make a stupid decision or didn't deserve to be chastised for it... I'm just wondering why Charlie gets a pass. Well, I'm not wondering why, really we all know why (he's first-tier royalty, and he's male) ... I'm just irked by it.

Imagine it was Meghan Markle :umm2:

Charles wasn't the face of a TV advertising campaign saying not to travel, Charles doesn't stand up every day dictating the future strategy the country should take with regard to health.

Agreed he shouldn't have travelled, but they are completely different scenarios

user104658 06-04-2020 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10816788)
Charles wasn't the face of a TV advertising campaign saying not to travel, Charles doesn't stand up every day dictating the future strategy the country should take with regard to health.

Agreed he shouldn't have travelled, but they are completely different scenarios

He's the direct heir to the throne and one of the most publicly visible people in the entire country... how many people (even in Scotland) can honestly claim they had any idea who Catherine Calderwood was before this story broke?

I agree that the hypocrisy adds another element and it's a very different situation, but I don't think one is necessarily worse than the other. We are CONSTANTLY being told that the Royals are, or are supposed to be, role models for the public and that's part of why it's important that we keep them around at all, and why it's important to keep "undesireables" out of the line up, and yet here we have the future king (maybe, I reckon Liz might outlive him) blatantly disregarding the advice. How can you expect people to see that and not question why they're not allowed to do the same?

Cherie 06-04-2020 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10816791)
He's the direct heir to the throne and one of the most publicly visible people in the entire country... how many people (even in Scotland) can honestly claim they had any idea who Catherine Calderwood was before this story broke?

I agree that the hypocrisy adds another element and it's a very different situation, but I don't think one is necessarily worse than the other. We are CONSTANTLY being told that the Royals are, or are supposed to be, role models for the public and that's part of why it's important that we keep them around at all, and why it's important to keep "undesireables" out of the line up, and yet here we have the future king (maybe, I reckon Liz might outlive him) blatantly disregarding the advice. How can you expect people to see that and not question why they're not allowed to do the same?


Yes there shouldn't be one rule for one

Beso 06-04-2020 12:15 PM

Inept leadership.

Oliver_W 06-04-2020 12:54 PM

Can someone from Scotland tell us how visible she's generally been in regards to telling people to stay in, etc?

Jigs 06-04-2020 01:01 PM

A wrongdoing, sure, but this definitely DOES NOT warrant her losing her job. This was such a minor bending of the rules that I can't even believe it made the news to begin with. This is another typical witch hunt case where people project fake outrage in order to cause harm/comeuppance to someone else. Now she's been strong-armed into stepping down from a position she'll have worked her entire life for. A huge shame!

The people who were "outraged" will have forgotten about this in 5 minutes and moved on with their lives. Unfortunately, she'll have to face long term consequences as a result of this fleeting anger.


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