Figures now predict UK will pass Italy in total CoVid deaths
 

I can’t believe Italy was seen as a disaster, we’re set to surpass them in deaths and the press seem to think the government has done a good job, it’s terrifying

What speculation is this from?

Italy was a disaster because healthcare services crumbled and people were dying on trolleys in the hallways without medical attention... Which thankfully hasn't happened in the UK (as yet, and hopefully won't at any point).

Lots of factors play into the total deaths. The situation in London (much like New York) means that the UK will have high deaths overall, unfortunately.

That's always been the case in that guys graph tbf. They're interesting but different graphs tell different stories. His starting point is ten deaths for example, whereas if you have 50 deaths as the starting point then we're - just - still tracking behind Italy, as we are if you do it from the first death

This is a graph from 50 deaths

Tbh I don't think anyone has been that critical of how Italy have handled it either. Their death count is disastrous but I wouldn't blame them for that, every government is trying to do their best in impossible circumstances

Those stats are completely different to the cobra graphs yesterday

Yes Ed Conway
the Great Money Reporter
in the Times
and on SkyNewsHD

For anyone who thinks this was totally unexpected and we has no chance of being prepared watch from 3.00 in...

980 Brits died in the last 24 hours. That's the worst 24 hour death toll of any European country. I mean...

London is the second busiest International city in the world, the rest of the UK stats are pretty average.

And like I said, the disaster in Italy was that healthcare services were in absolute chaos which hasn't happened in the UK yet.

Also earlier projected deaths for today were 1750.

Oh lovely more depressing news :bored:

Bloody Smithy
Wrong

Italy:18,849
USA : 18,777
Spain: 16,353
France :13,197
UK : 8,958



Change Your Wrong Title Bitch
please


Its USA will Over take Italy

His Data all WRONG

If only you looked at the Worldwide Updates?

You Forget USA

You have to take into account the size of the US population before you can draw any kind of comparison with them.

He Ignores the Live USA amount on CNN HD
I am shocked he can not view bigger Public data than
just us.

No
it's done by Nations


His Title is Bollocks

You're very forceful today arista.

Yes its
a shock that Today or Tomorrow
USA will be top of the List

Italy is more comparable with the UK with a population of 60 million, you can’t compare it to the US because it has 10 times the population, based on the graph, the UK is forecasted to overtake Italy in terms of death

We’re not looking at the US because they’ve got a child for a president who is ignoring the problem.

The point was that Italy was seen as a disaster, constantly the talking point of how many deaths were there and now we’re forecast to overtake them and it’s trying to be portrayed as “it’s fine”

The point was that Italy was seen as a disaster
Yes a Shocker

And it will be Fact the USA over takes Italy
Not us.

We are currently forecast to overtake them, that is the discussion of the thread, if you want to talk about the US overtaking them go make your own thread :fist:

No no need.

As soon as USA Over Takes Italy
its going on this thread


Its a matter of hours

It looks like it will be 18 months till they get a vaccine, in the meantime we'll still have restrictions.

I still don't think they'll lift the lockdown till September, I don't know why June rumours are going around.

Yes Lockdown for a year.
is common sense.

M&S Foods
keep us going.

Smithy
try to work in Real Time.

I will improve you

No I don't think we'll be in complete lockdown for a year, but we'll still have some restrictions .

It's also going to take a while for crowds to be allowed again. And people with health conditions will have to still be careful.

It is impossible to do lockdown for a year

But all over the World
it will be that way
Of Course Austria is now trying
a new face mask law
good luck to them.


Adam
while Covid 19 has a hold
Nothing is Impossible.


It's a shock for President Trump
who will soon be top of the World Death list

I've been trying to tell arista that these numbers don't mean that much unless you scale by population size since February. He's not listening, Livia :fist:.

Even comparing Spain to Italy for example, Spain was hit harder than it looks at first glance, as they have a population of 40m compared to Italy's 60m.

The US should be "expected" to be 5x Italy/UK because they have 5x the population (not 10x Smithy :nono:) but in part its like comparing apples to oranges... Some of the big, open states will be able to handle it much better because of "natural" social distancing (small population per square mile) whereas if you just take New York City as an example separate to the whole US, the figures are especially harsh. Nearly 6000 deaths in a population of 8 million. Although its a similar situation in London.

The economy has already been destroyed by a short lockdown, a long term one will obliterate the economy

Yes we will enter a Depression

"He's not listening"


I am TS
a enjoy your views

Yes this is why lockdown will not be as long as most seem to think.

So you want more Deaths?

Its literally impossible, so no, it won't. Most likely there will be close monitoring and shorter "localised" lockdowns.

Some aspects simply can't continue that long without literally killing more people; tragically, there has already been a marked increase in non-covid deaths because people are scared to, or unable to, access medical attention. The press aren't talking about that much, though.

If you extended to a year you would have people going undiagnosed with cancers and other chronic conditions for so long that they would be too late to get treatment. These things all have to be factored in.

"The US should be "expected" to be 5x Italy/UK because they have 5x the population (not 10x Smithy ) but in part its like comparing apples to oranges.."

Yes we need Smithy
in Real Time

I never said that Arista. :oh: But this can't go on indefinitely. The onus is on the Gov to test like mad.

People will start to die of other conditions quite quickly (already happening) because of isolation and lack of access. That will start to increase exponentially after 6 months. And a lockdown that triggers a full economic collapse will kill millions.

Not in England.


And Yes TS
more will sadly Die
as they can not get the Cancer Treatment.



Covid 19 is a Mega Killer in the World

Yes its a Shocking Future
Johnson /Raab are stuck
and can not stop a Depression.