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Denver 02-06-2020 01:05 PM

It's time for the UK government to speak about Blacklivesmatter
 
They need to stop licking Trumps ass and condemn him for his behaviours as well as supporting the cause

Kizzy 02-06-2020 01:08 PM

If that happens I'll dance a jig in the nip, we are inextricably linked to trump and the new world order.

Crimson Dynamo 02-06-2020 01:11 PM

We have our own country to run and leave others to run theirs.

Ridiculous

Denver 02-06-2020 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10853939)
We have our own country to run and leave others to run theirs.

Ridiculous

Yes because abuse towards black people only happens in the US

The Slim Reaper 02-06-2020 01:12 PM

You're mental. You supported the xenophobic brexit to make money for Boris, his russians, and his billionaires, and now you expect them to speak out against the country that's willing to give us a terrible trade deal and have access to our NHS?

Elections and votes have consequences, Adam. Welcome to the party.

Denver 02-06-2020 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10853945)
You're mental. You supported the xenophobic brexit to make money for Boris, his russians, and his billionaires, and now you expect them to speak out against the country that's willing to give us a terrible trade deal and have access to our NHS?

Elections and votes have consequences. Adam. Welcome to the arty.

Brexit wasnt about Race for me

arista 02-06-2020 01:13 PM

Labour mentioned it today
talking to Hancock MP

The Slim Reaper 02-06-2020 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Denver (Post 10853949)
Brexit wasnt about Race for me

And welcome to the real world of those results. We're beholden to the US now and rendered unable to criticise them, because we're screwed.

The Slim Reaper 02-06-2020 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Denver (Post 10853949)
Brexit wasnt about Race for me

Taking back control? Controlling our borders? Not wanting them europeans making our laws? Spot the subtlety flowing through those empty slogans.

Denver 02-06-2020 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10853963)
Taking back control? Controlling our borders? Not wanting them europeans making our laws? Spot the subtlety flowing through those empty slogans.

It's about following our own rules and not the rules of people who line their pockets with the money

The Slim Reaper 02-06-2020 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denver (Post 10853969)
It's about following our own rules and not the rules of people who line their pockets with the money

Taking back control then? Making our own laws then? Not trusting "the other" then? The EU was taking our money?

Where did you get the impression that we didn't have all the powers we needed before Brexit?

Come on, have a think...

Amy Jade 02-06-2020 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Denver (Post 10853949)
Brexit wasnt about Race for me

I understand you and I am not having a go when I say this but people who voted for Brexit have made us Trump's bitch. If he turned on us we would be absolutely screwed.

We have very little maneuverability since coming put of the EU sadly.

armand.kay 02-06-2020 01:28 PM

why would they speak out against trump when they probably agree with his actions

user104658 02-06-2020 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denver (Post 10853969)
It's about following our own rules and not the rules of people who line their pockets with the money

By forcibly uncoupling ourselves from the EU we're left with no choice but to maintain a (very) friendly relationship with the US, and currently, because he is a totalitarian nightmare, that menas not upsetting Trump for any reason. If you voted for Brexit, whether you realised it or not, that IS what you voted for. We don't get to abandon unilateral free trade with the EU and then also stand up to the POTUS. If you ever thought we could, just to be completely blunt, you did not fully understand what you were voting for. Britain is a small land mass with a large population. We are not self-sufficient.

Tom4784 02-06-2020 01:39 PM

It'll never happen, Brexit has made us to dependant on the US. Brexiters deluded themselves into thinking that we'd get 'Independence' but all we've really done is basically put ourselves at the US' mercy.

We've escaped the 'evil EU' to become the 51st state.

RileyH 02-06-2020 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10853939)
We have our own country to run and leave others to run theirs.

Ridiculous

The UK is no better than the US. Racism and police brutality exist here, and in every country.

Brother Leon 02-06-2020 04:32 PM




The PM we needed, but didn’t deserve.

Denver 02-06-2020 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother Leon (Post 10854108)



The PM we needed, but didn’t deserve.

I still dont think he was the right man, Now if labour elected Lisa Nandy that would have been great

Cherie 02-06-2020 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brother Leon (Post 10854108)



The PM we needed, but didn’t deserve.

Has there been condemnation from any European leaders yet?

UK Government is currently dealing with the situation in Hong Kong, maybe another country could step up for now?

Denver 02-06-2020 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10854111)
Has there been condemnation from any European leaders yet?

UK Government is currently dealing with the situation in Hong Kong, maybe another country could step up for now?

I dont think any Europeans have but I know China anf Iran did but that shouldn't shock you

Cherie 02-06-2020 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Denver (Post 10854112)
I dont think any Europeans have but I know China anf Iran did but that shouldn't shock you

Weren’t they trolling :laugh:

Denver 02-06-2020 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10854113)
Weren’t they trolling :laugh:

Tbh I dont think they were, they want Trump out and will do anything to do so even if it means saying things they themselves dont believe in

Redway 02-06-2020 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10853939)
We have our own country to run and leave others to run theirs.

Ridiculous

You think racism isn’t a serious problem in the UK?

Oliver_W 02-06-2020 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redway (Post 10854539)
You think racism isn’t a serious problem in the UK?

The UK should address any racism that is the UK, not spend the bandwidth talking about other continents.

user104658 02-06-2020 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10854542)
The UK should address any racism that is the UK, not spend the bandwidth talking about other continents.

I agree to an extent, global governments could express their support by committing (and seriously, not lipservice) to tackling racism "at home", but let's face it... they're not going to. We had our own riots less than 10 years ago for identical reasons; the issue was dismissed as "greedy thugs and animals".

Redway 02-06-2020 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10854542)
The UK should address any racism that is the UK, not spend the bandwidth talking about other continents.

What makes you think you have the right to tell black people how to react, hm?

user104658 02-06-2020 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redway (Post 10854547)
What makes you think you have the right to tell black people how to react, hm?

To be fair to ol' Oliver there, he's talking about his opinion on what the UK government should be doing, not what any individual should be doing.

Though personally while I think it's true that the government of any country's MAIN focus should be on tackling the issue at home, I'd have much more respect for a Prime Minister who would at least vocalise some sympathy for the **** going on in the US. Total silence is really just tacit support for the US government's handling of the issue.

Gstar 03-06-2020 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10854542)
The UK should address any racism that is the UK, not spend the bandwidth talking about other continents.

Racist murderers aka American police affects POC in the UK just as much as America, just because it’s in a different country it doesn’t mean that we don’t feel the hurt and anger. It’s been an ongoing issue for many years and the world has just about had enough

Kizzy 03-06-2020 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10854111)
Has there been condemnation from any European leaders yet?

UK Government is currently dealing with the situation in Hong Kong, maybe another country could step up for now?

Are any other European leaders crawling up trumps rear for trade deals?... no.
All countries have their own issues, your strawman argument is irrelevant.

We've always had a 'special relationship' with the US, that usually means whoever America wants to bomb we'll create such a false narrative about it in the media the public practically beg the government to help blow whoever and wherever to Kingdom come.

We'll be with them on this too.

Cherie 03-06-2020 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10854583)
Are any other European leaders crawling up trumps rear for trade deals?... no.
All countries have their own issues, your strawman argument is irrelevant.

We've always had a 'special relationship' with the US, that usually means whoever America wants to bomb we'll create such a false narrative about it in the media the public practically beg the government to help blow whoever and wherever to Kingdom come.

We'll be with them on this too.

The EU have no interest in trading with the USA, is that what you are saying.?

The Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership ( TTIP) is a proposed trade agreement between the European Union and the United States, with the aim of promoting trade and multilateral economic growth. Aug 26 2019

Crimson Dynamo 03-06-2020 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gstar (Post 10854566)
Racist murderers aka American police affects POC in the UK just as much as America, just because it’s in a different country it doesn’t mean that we don’t feel the hurt and anger. It’s been an ongoing issue for many years and the world has just about had enough

It barely registers with the world

It's an issue for the USA only

Oliver_W 03-06-2020 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gstar (Post 10854566)
Racist murderers aka American police affects POC in the UK just as much as America, just because it’s in a different country it doesn’t mean that we don’t feel the hurt and anger. It’s been an ongoing issue for many years and the world has just about had enough

Why does it affect you? There's a whole planet out there were people murder each other. I don't get personally offended by white farmers being murdered in South Africa, because it's a different country.

Niamh. 03-06-2020 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10854111)
Has there been condemnation from any European leaders yet?



UK Government is currently dealing with the situation in Hong Kong, maybe another country could step up for now?

Leo commented on it


Samm 03-06-2020 08:28 AM

This thread is full of ignorant white people telling black people how they should react smh.

You guys are part of the problem.

Cherie 03-06-2020 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10854614)
Leo commented on it


Did he denounce Trump? it was commented on at yesterdays briefing as well if anyone is interested, they didn't denounce a foreign leader though any more than they have denounced China's leader during the pandemic

Cherie 03-06-2020 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samm (Post 10854617)
This thread is full of ignorant white people telling black people how they should react smh.

You guys are part of the problem.

I haven't told anyone black or white how they should react, you are very fond of telling people how they should react though

Niamh. 03-06-2020 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10854628)
Did he denounce Trump? it was commented on at yesterdays briefing as well if anyone is interested

I posted what his tweet so you could read what he said :shrug:

Cherie 03-06-2020 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10854630)
I posted what his tweet so you could read what he said :shrug:

I cant see a tweet :suspect:

The Slim Reaper 03-06-2020 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10854614)
Leo commented on it


Having to clean up your mistakes again :fist:

Crimson Dynamo 03-06-2020 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samm (Post 10854617)
This thread is full of ignorant white people telling black people how they should react smh.

You guys are part of the problem.

perhaps you should make threads "black responses only please" and then white people could know not to post an opinion?:shrug:

not sure how you would know the "colour" of a poster however


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