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Nicky91 17-06-2020 08:47 AM

Germany: Promi Big Brother 2020, 1 extra week this year
 
3 weeks instead of the regular 2 weeks


starts in August as usual


few of the rumoured promi's who could be in this years series

- civilian BB winner Cedric

- reality star Matthias Mangiapane

- DSDS2020 winner Ramon Roselly

- bachelor tv personality Sebastian Preuss

- model, playboy star Laura Muller

but these are just rumours, and producers at Sat1 could've kept line up more a secret than normal now, also due to isolations pre show (due to current covid distancing society), i kinda hope there are lot of surprise promi's on line up anyway

but i am excited at the 1 extra week :dance: :dance:

Jarrod 17-06-2020 11:32 AM

It's good they're still go ahead despite C19!

Nicky91 17-06-2020 12:27 PM

most of Germany's regular summer reality tv goes ahead as normal despite C19

''Das Sommerhaus der stars'' which is usually in another country (will now air from own country and the town of Bochum, a Mutual consent deal between RTL and that town if some are too bothered by ''noise'' or anything)


also hope Dancing on Ice will go through as normal or at least for tv viewers i hope sat1 paid attention to the surprise success of lets dance with no audiences

Nicky91 29-06-2020 07:24 AM

start date 7th of August

end date 28th of August

Nicky91 29-06-2020 11:16 AM

hosting duo remains the same here too, Jochen Schropp and Marlene Lufen for the main show

https://image.gala.de/21792056/uncro...lene-lufen.jpg
Marlene Lufen & Jochen Schropp

and its side show ''Late Night Show'' hosted by Melissa Khalaj, Jochen Bendel (whom also did present side show for civilian BB there this year for first time)

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a3/05...f256e1f087.jpg

Melissa Khalaj & Jochen Bendel

Nicky91 06-07-2020 09:44 AM

https://www.sat1.de/tv/promi-big-bro...e-shows-109537

ticket sales for live shows open :dance2:


yes this is allowed, audience in some form (they also do that over there with other shows again so)

Nicky91 08-07-2020 08:27 AM

first 4 celebs revealed

- Jasmin Tawil, Soap Actress

- Udo Bonstrup aka Hendrik Nitsch, Youtuber/Comedian

- Adela Smajic, a former Swiss Bachelorette, TV Presenter/Influencer

- Lorenz Buffel, schlager singer and had a hit as homage to actor johnny depp

Nicky91 08-07-2020 08:30 AM

4 rumoured celebs, Sat1 does this every year, announce 4 possible celeb contestants for PBB

https://ddryotjoivhwo.cloudfront.net.../340/image.jpg

Adela Smajic

https://diginights.com/uploads/image...-default-9.jpg

Udo Bonstrup

https://lastfm.freetls.fastly.net/i/...d71e4256ac.jpg
Lorenz Buffel

https://blog.katjakuhl.de/wp-content...6/JAWE0039.jpg

Jasmin Tawil

Nicky91 08-07-2020 09:33 AM



one of Lorenz's hits ''doppelhorn'' :dance: :dance:

Nicky91 08-07-2020 09:38 AM



here is that homage to johnny depp song

Nicky91 08-07-2020 12:51 PM



whom Udo is, more like a vlogger about all sorts of things out of normal daily life, bit like the Joe Sugg of Germany

Nicky91 11-07-2020 01:09 PM

more good news for Promi BB this year

this year it will be in the primetime tv slot, first week will be all week at 22:15, and the next 2 weeks will be from 20:15 (and not just the Friday eviction shows but all other days also from that timeslot, entire evening)

:dance: :dance:

Nicky91 20-07-2020 08:23 AM

https://www.sat1.de/tv/promi-big-bro...ewaehrung-clip



official promo for PBB2020 :dance:


can't wait for official line up reveal either

Nicky91 22-07-2020 10:55 AM

extra live feed confirmed too, for the side show :D

with special guests analyzing situation from that studio too

Nicky91 27-07-2020 08:50 AM

5 August 2020 filming dates

so same as Always the launch is not live or at least the part where they are going in the house

but later on in launch ep we get some live feed


nothing bc of covid or anything, since they do this all the time like this


like this they can also immediately have one challenge on launch show rather than it just being intro vt's etc

Nicky91 31-07-2020 10:43 AM

more promi rumours


- Simone Ballack

- Claudia Obert


- and also a drag queen apparently on rumours for series 8

Nicky91 02-08-2020 08:18 AM

think line up is revealed on 5th of August, or on the 6th,

since then filming has begun for launch night, and first days material

Nicky91 03-08-2020 09:57 AM

we got some more info

the Claudia Obert rumour was true, former iconic Big brother Germany housemate will be commentator during sunday's and wednesday's episodes :D


entire line up is

Adela Smajic 27 (bachelorette, tv personality, influencer)

Claudia Kohde-Kilsch 56 (former tennis player)

Elena Lucia Ameur 26 (Actress)

Emmy Russ 21 (tv personality, influencer)

Ikke Huftgold 43 (Singer)

Jasmin Tawil 38 (Soap Actress, ex of singer/songwriter Adel Tawil)

Kathy Kelly 57 (Musician, of The Kelly Family)

Mischa Mayer 28 (tv personality)

Sascha Heyna 45 (Shopping Channel Host, Singer)

Saskia Beecks 32 (Actress)

Senay Guler 44 (DJ)

Udo Bonstrup 25 (Comedian)


Theme song is Mehr Davon by Lotte




and like other years, song for the matches/challenges is The Hanging tree by James newton howard & Jennifer Lawrence


Nicky91 03-08-2020 11:05 AM

Adela, Jasmin, Udo you already know few posts above

but some of others

Claudia

http://claudia-kohde-kilsch.de/cms/u...hooting_01.jpg

Elena-Lucia

https://content2.promiflash.de/artic...opfhoerern.jpg

Emmy

https://content1.promiflash.de/artic...-posiert-2.jpg

Ikke

https://rheinhessen-news.de/news/wp-...-1-458x458.jpg

Kathy

https://alwaystkf.weebly.com/uploads...1388225808.jpg

Mischa

https://content3.promiflash.de/artic...nen-bizeps.jpg

Sascha

https://smago.de/ws2/wp-content/uplo...r2-667x445.jpg

Saskia

https://www.bravo.de/assets/styles/i...?itok=bRQgIuhz

Senay

https://www.ajoure-men.de/wp-content...enay-Titel.jpg

Nicky91 03-08-2020 11:24 AM

used google translate a bit for bits of hm's their profiles

Senay

Quote:

The fact that Senay Gueler is a special guy is already evident in his appearance: long beard, piercings and tattoos. He is mainly on the road as a DJ. But he also pursues other interests: he is a model, storyteller and actor, among others, he was seen in "4 Blocks". He is also working on his own book.
His face is familiar to many from movies and promotional shoots, but his name is not quite as familiar yet – that will probably change with his participation in "Celebrity Big Brother" 2020.
Emmy

Quote:

Emmy Russ looks good. And the blonde Hamburger is also aware of this. The single lady would prefer to cuddle her sexy curves to a police officer. She makes no secret of her fondness for men in uniform and has even earned herself a gun tattoo. Which official would like to press the deduction? The 21-year-old Emmy was just seen on "Beauty & The Nerd" 2020 as A Beauty alongside her nerd Sven K. on ProSieben. The request for the format came more than convenient for the luxury girl – Emmy sees her career in public. On Instagram, she shares her life with around 52,000 followers and shows off her glamorous lifestyle. "The whole city should recognize me, run after me, take photos of me. That's what I want," Emmy says of her lifelong dream.
Ikke

Quote:

Ikke Hüftgold is called Matthias Distel by its real name and is not only born at the Ballermann, but near Montabaur. Music is in the blood of the loving father and as a class clown he already entertains his schoolmates with funny jokes. However, Ikke was and is a very down-to-earth person and has therefore been running a horticultural business with great success for years. The 43-year-old is also a children's radio play producer.
Elena-Lucia

Quote:

With her role as the villain "Zoe" in "Berlin – Day and Night" (2019), Elene Lucia Ameur quickly gains notoriety, because there she embodies a very controversial character. Intrigue and revenge plans were always high on Zoe's agenda. With the introduction of her serial self into a psychiatry, Elene Lucia ends her engagement with "Berlin – Day and Night".
Mischa

Quote:

Mischa Mayer has two big goals: moving to the TV and big city of Cologne and finding his dream wife. One of them has already been realized – the other is still missing from the former Love Island contestant. In the third season of the dating format, the 28-year-old is looking for great love and wants to show that he is seriously looking for his dream wife. But Mischa leaves the island alone again, his flirtation in the show turns out to be fake. The lady of his heart was already in a relationship. Mischa then goes back to Ludwigshafen to work as a fire protection technician on construction sites. But his dream and the desire to move to his dream city does not let him go. Mischa has sniffed TV air and wants to stay there.
Sascha

Quote:

He starts his media career as a volunteer at a Stuttgart television station. The success is not long in coming: Sascha Heyna goes to Paris and reports for German and British television. His interview partners are none other than stars and fashion greats such as Karl Lagerfeld, Madonna or Cindy Crawford. In 2001, the award-winning journalist was drawn to the camera and he became one of the most famous faces of the teleshopping channel QVC. There he not only sells products, but entertains the audience with his open and honest manner. That's what his fans love him for.
Saskia

Quote:

Saskia is awakened, full of lust for life and inquisitive. They celebrate their fans for their open and honest manner – sometimes quite free snout. The 32-year-old became known in 2011 for the reality soap "Berlin – Day and Night". For more than eight years she played the role of Alina Schmitts, a party girl from Berlin.
In 2019, Saskia decides to leave the series. She feels like she's standing still and not developing her career any more. However, her love for Berlin still exists, as she lives with her best friend in a shared apartment in the capital.
Claudia

Quote:

Claudia Kohde-Kilsch has had an important sports career. At the age of 15, she becomes a professional tennis player. She spends most of her youth on sports fields and in halls. Extensive training is part of their everyday life at this young age. She finishes school with middle maturity and goes straight on a big tennis tour for 15 years. In 1985, she was ranked fourth in the world tennis rankings. Three years later she won the Olympic Games in Seoul, together with tennis star Steffi Graf. The 56-year-old has been one of the top 10 german tennis players for five years. Today she works as a national coach at the German Tennis Federation and is part of a national coaching team for German wheelchair tennis.
Adela

Quote:

Adela Smajic was born in Basel, Switzerland, the daughter of former FC Sion coach Amir Smajic.
However, the single woman with her sun-tanned complexion and plump breasts soon made it out of her father's shadow.
In 2018, she went on Swiss television as A Bachelorette in search of great love. The fact that 22 very different guys fought for the 27-year-old's heart was only convenient for her. After all, the Swiss has no particular type – from small and big or intelligent and stupid were many men by her side.
translated from their official profile pages :hee:

Nicky91 03-08-2020 11:28 AM



a match from 1985, Claudia vs Chris Evert :)

Nicky91 04-08-2020 08:36 AM

more translating from profiles

Jasmin

Quote:

Jasmin Tawil will probably always shape her past. In the meantime, however, the young mother has her depression under control and her life very well under control – even though she says she does not have much money. At "Celebrity Big Brother" the Berliner wants to present her newborn self. The yoga teacher knows that she may always be a little crazier and more crazy than the other residents. How will they deal with the extraordinary personality of their competitor? And will Jasmin unpack at #PromiBB about her marriage to Adel?
Udo

Quote:

What do a 25-year-old graduate student who has set up his own agency UBC Entertainment and a Westphalian pensioner have in common? In Udo Bönstrup's case, a lot of alcohol. When the then 20-year-old celebrates a wet and cheerful night with his friends, he imitates a Westphalian pensioner, then still unnamed. A buddy posts the performance on Facebook – the next day the clip goes through the ceiling. And so Udo Bönstrup, a former elementary school student from the post-war period, was born. Incidentally, the art figure was inspired by his own grandpa, a 70-year-old ex-Oberstabsfeldwebel with a rough tone. Whether his grandpa, like Udo Bönstrup, also complains about women on the road, cigarette prices and perfume stench, we do not know. What is clear, however, is that Udo does not have his distinctive rolled R from his grandpa: "The old Westphalian grandpas still roll the R really nicely, i don't like that," says Udo.
Kathy

Quote:

After her professional separation from her siblings, Kelly retires from show business. She continues to work on her voice, supports the charity "Church in Need" and when her son was born in 1992, she takes time for her own small family. Some time later she releases her first solo album, musically influenced by her family. Two years later she presents a new Kathy Kelly to the world: acoustic songs, piano, Spanish and Irish elements as well as gospel are part of her repertoire
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Nicky91 04-08-2020 08:38 AM

4 of the 16 participants, who we do not know yet, move in to the house on first live show evening

final four haven't been announced yet


but among heavy rumours we got Simone Ballack, Drag Queen Katy Bahm


so 2 surprises i guess then (best kept secrets by Sat1)

Nicky91 04-08-2020 03:41 PM

also next week on August 11th, on Sat1

TopTen: Best of Promi Big Brother

10 of the best moments in Promi Big Brother so far

Nicky91 05-08-2020 07:01 AM

one had withdrawn before entering the house Saskia Beecks won't be in this series

her last minute replacement is TV Personality, Reality Star, Dschungelcamp 2018 winner Jennifer Frankhauser

https://content1.promiflash.de/artic...aechelt-15.jpg


Sat1 also confirmed Jennifer wasn't one of the 4 late entrants as those already have been locked in to enter as late entrants and cannot be chosen as last minute replacement, so Jennifer is a real last minute replacement on their B-List who were also being screened with daily covid-19 tests of course

Nicky91 05-08-2020 08:44 AM

profile Jennifer ''Jenny'' Frankhauser

Quote:

Jenny Frankhauser grew up in Ludwigshafen with her half-brother and half-sister Daniela Katzenberger as the daughter of Iris Klein. Her parents divorced a few years after their birth. Since the age of 17, Frankhauser has appeared together with her family members in various programmes, mostly docu-soaps around her sister Daniela Katzenberger. With the song Die Zeit steht still, Jenny Frankhauser was at number 64 on the German singles charts for a week in August 2016.
In January and February 2018, Frankhauser, like her mother in 2013, took part in the reality show I'm a Star – Get Me Out of Here! and won it after telephone voting.
and this is one of her songs (yes she is also a singer)


Nicky91 05-08-2020 12:24 PM

the 3 late entrants have been revealed

https://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/...h35fFrXgfl.jpg

Simone Ballack, TV Personality, ex wife of former footballer Michael Ballack

https://vivischmidt.de/wp-content/up...m-bähmbähm.jpg

Katy Bahm, Drag Queen former Queen of Drags contestant

Nicky91 06-08-2020 06:42 AM

https://www.sat1.de/tv/promi-big-bro...henland-110047

again i'll translate, this is about the house reveal inside/outside


Quote:

The Fairytale Forest
On the one hand, the fairytale forest awaits – here the inhabitants find the most necessary and thus a place that leaves all wishes unfulfilled. Overnight is in a shed, open to the front. Showering is outdoors, the consultation room is located in the robber's den.

At the wish tree, earned thalers can be exchanged for luxury items such as soap or snacks. In the crunchy house, the inhabitants of the fairytale forest can also go shopping this year with a well-earned budget. Whoever rushes through the PENNY market shelves in the live shows with a time limit will determine this year for the first time the viewer directly via the SAT.1 app.

The Fairytale Castle
But on the horizon, the inhabitants see a ray of light: the fairytale castle. In the modernly furnished walls you can expect a full land of snares and pure luxury. Here, food and noble drops are plentiful for the resident residents.

Open luxury kitchen, a lounge area to linger in, a bathroom as a wellness oasis and a bedroom with luxurious beds for stately dreaming. The outdoor area of the fairytale castle is the pleasure garden. With pool, lying area and a barbecue area can be snubbed and blasphemed in its corners.

The first twelve inhabitants have already moved in
For these twelve inhabitants, the adventure in the "Celebrity Big Brother" fairytale forest has already begun: Wimbledon winner Claudia Kohde-Kilsch, ex-wife of Adel Tawil and actress Jasmin Tawil, Ballermann icon Ikke Hüftgold, Kelly Family powerwoman Kathy Kelly, jungle queen Jenny Frankhauser, reality star Emmy Russ, "Love Island" womanizer Mischa Mayer, soap actress Elene Lucia Ameur, teleshopping presenter Sascha Heyna, Swiss "Bachelorette" and presenter Adela Smajic, scene DJ and actor Senay Gueler
and social media star Udo Bönstrup.

In the big launch show on Friday, August 7th, at 8:15 p.m., live on SAT.1 and on Joyn, Jochen Schropp and Marlene Lufen welcome four other residents, who will move live into the fairyland of "Celebrity Big Brother".
How will they be received by their twelve new roommates? For whom does the fairyland of happiness and at the end of the fairy tale the pot full of money with 100,000 euros ready? Who is unlucky to be thrown out early?
.


more about miss Jenny from sat1 promi bb profile

Quote:

In the shadow of the big sister
For Jenny Frankhauser, it is not always easy to stand in the shadow of her sister Daniela Katzenberger. In the meantime, she has found herself and shows Germany what she really can do.
Jenny and the Men
Jenny regularly makes headlines with her love life. So far she has not found her great love. Despite the many setbacks, Jenny does not lose her courage. Her heart is still working.
.

Nicky91 06-08-2020 07:06 AM

from Promiflash translated by yours truly

Quote:

The fans of Saskia Beecks (32) were happy too soon! Actually, the former Berlin Day & Night actress has just been introduced as this year's contestant on Celebrity Big Brother. But just before the season started, the influencer pulled back. She just doesn't feel up to a TV project of this magnitude. Why, she left open. Now she made a short statement online.

"My dear ones, please don't worry. I am well. I'll be back later," the TV star wrote in a beam selfie with a dog in his Instagram story. Saskia is incredibly grateful, even if she doesn't show it that way. "Thank you for all your messages, endorsements and lovewords," she addressed her followers.

For weeks, Saskia's community has been wondering what's going on with her. While she usually regularly gave updates from her everyday life and let her fans share in her life, her social media account was almost completely silent.
https://www.promiflash.de/news/2020/...hren-fans.html

Nicky91 06-08-2020 08:04 AM

having some hopes for Ikke to entertain me so much, he already looks iconic anyway

hoping Senay is a good backstabbing king, hope he can make it far too with devious gameplay


i think Jenny will become a target quite soon, i mean because she won the Jungle show, other hm's will know she has a huge public following so they need to take her out somehow

Nicky91 07-08-2020 10:42 AM

we have another promi reveal

https://www.seniorenstift-baumberge....ner-hansch.jpg

Quote:

Hansch came to the Recklinghausen racecourse through a friend for press work. He commented on the races there because of an illness of the spokesman of the race track and received very great support from his listeners. In 1973 he represented the prevented stadium spokesman of FC Schalke 04 and promptly became his successor until 1978. In his first home game on Schalke he announced the Schalker goalkeeper Norbert Nigbur "... with the starting number one", which earned him a lot of laughs, but also criticism.
Due to his relaxed and colloquial commentary, Hansch quickly found a lot of recognition from listeners and colleagues. In November 1978, the WDR hired him as a radio sports reporter, where he was responsible for football and all equestrian sports. The first football match he commented on for WDR was the match between Prussia Münster and Bayer Leverkusen on 4 November 1978 at the Prussian Stadium.
In December 1990, Hansch became a television reporter for the ARD sports show. In August 1992 he moved to Sat.1, where he commented on Bundesliga and UEFA Champions League matches until the summer of 2006. The following year Hansch worked as a sports journalist at the pay-TV channel Arena. He also worked as a commentator on the video game series FIFA.
In 2009 Hansch co-hosted the sports game show WipeOut – Heul nicht, lauf! on Pro7.
81 yr old sports commentator legend Werner Hansch



and apparently not marcel freibuchner, but we got Ramin Abtin too, coach on Biggest Loser Germany

https://content5.promiflash.de/artic...ie-faeuste.jpg

Quote:

In 1981 Ramin Abtin moved with his parents Mansur Abtin and Ursula Abtin to Straubenhardt, near Pforzheim (Baden-Württemberg). Today he lives in Pforzheim. After graduating from high school in 1992, he completed his civil service at a school with a focus on physical and motor development in Karlovy Vary. Subsequently, he successfully completed an apprenticeship as a sports and gymnastics teacher, as well as an apprenticeship as a sports therapist (DVGS) at the vocational school for sports gymnastics and physiotherapy Waldenburg. In addition, Abtin has additional qualifications in the field of training therapy and orthopaedictherapy, namely Medical Training Therapy (MTT) and the Rehabilitation Practice (Orthopedics). Since 2013, Abtin has been a coach on the Sat.1 weight loss show The Biggest Loser, which has been hosted by Christine Theiss since 2012. Together with Dirk Effenberg, Abtin founded the martial arts academy Karlovy Vary in 2016, in which he also works as a coach. Many former The Biggest Loser contestants have remained loyal to Ramin Abtin and his martial arts academy to this day and continue to train with the coach.
Not much is known about Abtin's private life at the moment, except that he lives with two bulldogs and likes to listen to Metal (Iron Maiden, Symphony X, Dio, etc.). In addition, he is a great film enthusiast and collector and has been eating vegetarian food since 1993
.

Nicky91 07-08-2020 11:02 AM

another fun fact

Claudia Kohde-Kilsch now currently works as a politician as a member of the Social Democratic Party of Germany, she might be for many in UK a familiar face given she had won the wimbledon slam in the 1980's :)

Mitchell 07-08-2020 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 10892579)
another fun fact

Claudia Kohde-Kilsch now currently works as a politician as a member of the Social Democratic Party of Germany, she might be for many in UK a familiar face given she had won the wimbledon slam in the 1980's :)

Tibb loves nothing more than minor German tennis players from the 1980’s :love: someone get ha in RileyH’s signature

Nicky91 07-08-2020 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitchell (Post 10892581)
Tibb loves nothing more than minor German tennis players from the 1980’s :love: someone get ha in RileyH’s signature

minor german tennis players??


she was basically 2nd most known, successful behind Steffi Graf that time


also played few other slam finals, among those against Chrissie Evert, Steffi Graf

Steffi is unrealistic as a signing, but this is a good signing given tennis players status wise are Always tricky to get on your line up

Mitchell 07-08-2020 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 10892593)
minor german tennis players??


she was basically 2nd most known, successful behind Steffi Graf that time


also played few other slam finals, among those against Chrissie Evert, Steffi Graf

Steffi is unrealistic as a signing, but this is a good signing given tennis players status wise are Always tricky to get on your line up

I said what I said x

Nicky91 07-08-2020 11:25 AM

still so far i have done a neat job with translating bits

i mean most of these look as if they could be actual VT's :laugh:

i've taken most from german Wikipedia or sat1 promi bb hm profiles anyway, and using google translate

Nicky91 08-08-2020 06:56 AM

ok day 1-3 update

we got 2 camps Forest and Castle

Team who live outdoors in Forest are

Adela

Claudia

Elene

Emmy

Jasmin

Katy

Mischa

Ramin

Senay

Udo


Team who live in Castle are

Ikke

Jenny

Kathy

Sascha

Simone

Werner


Castle is the luxurious area, Forest is the poor area


the residents in the ''poor'' area can shop in a so called Penny Market

there will also be a ''wish tree'' in which the poor people can use luxury talers to wish for luxury items from Big Brother


these forest and castle selections were decided by public vote


the day 1 arrivals each housemate had a choice of 5 favourite items from their Luggage, but they had to draw one ball each, which had a number between 0-5 how many items they could actually bring into the fairytale land

Nicky91 08-08-2020 08:20 AM

Ikke is a literal SCREAM :clap1: :clap1: such a cult icon who we love to stan


also love his flirting with Emmy, who is 22 yrs younger than him :fan:



audience in studio there were loads of Ikke fans :love:

Nicky91 08-08-2020 08:40 AM

of course the moans how not many of celebs are recognized, however i find them all good choices for this series :love: everyone basically has good character, potential to make this series very entertaining which is more important than star appeal

and of course first ever drag queen on this show too, comparing Katy to miss Courtney act, i do also like this one


Werner i love, but i just have respect for national treasures :love: :love: also such a sweet old man, physically wise i don't know but he had said he is up for the challenge of promi bb anyway

Nicky91 08-08-2020 08:54 AM

also Elene already started CRYING, on freaking Day 1 can you imagine :laugh2:


however i see a bright future in these weeks for other females, like Kathy who comes across to me as quite nice :love: also very likeable


Jasmin & Senay friendship is what i hope for, both love meditating too as a common interest :love:


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