Do you believe in ghosts/ghost experiences/spooky stories etc...
 

...as we’re about to enter the month of Halloween, do you believe in ghosts/..the supernatural etc...do you have any personal ghostly/spooky experiences or know of any with friends/relatives etc...


...have you ever seen a ghost...?...

I don't believe in ghosts as such....my Grandad was a grave digger and used to have to dig graves in the middle of the night for early morning funerals and he always said to us "you should never fear the dead, its the living who'll hurt you". Before he died he told me he would come back and let mw know if there was anything "on the other side". I spent the first 6 months after he died barely sleeping in case I woke up to him sat on the end of my bed :laugh:

After he died though, there was sometimes a smell of cigarette smoke in the house - none of us smoked but he used to when he came to stay with us. I've smelt my mums perfume too but I don't know whether thats just wishful thinking

Yes I have walked in a Haunted Zone
I had to leave that area.

...I actually hear my dad’s voice... I mean hear it clearly as if he was standing right next to me...when I read an expression or something that he would have said or very similar things...that isn’t a ghost story, it’s just a by the by...and when I’ve got stuff going on in my head that I’m struggling with../...worries etc..?...I’ve often heard him saying...well then now my love, let’s see here....let’s get this all in order one step at a time...

I've always kept an open mind on this.

There's things happened, I've been told about and things happen I've come across myself.
For which there was no explanation for.

This has left me with the more believing in it than not, yes.

no of course not

anecdotal stories about ghosts are told by the teller to add status and make them seem more interesting, a very human trait

often stories were told to keep children safe and away from dangerous things at night etc


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I haven't ever said myself except in private conversation with another, things I've come across.

Because there's always those who just dismiss, ridicule and put down those having any experiences.

I'd guess if there are spirits, ghosts , whatever anyone wishes to term them, or anything from another existence.
Then they'll have their reasons for making anything known to any physical being they visit.

Equally their reasons for never going anywhere near any closed view sceptics.

Until I was 15, I may have discounted things people have said.
However as I said before, I've had things happen in my life, which have no real explanation to it.
So my mind was opened in my later teens.

Your post above Ammi sounds a very comforting set of instances of thought or who really knows, much more to them.
I would guess too, if I may, that maybe those thoughts and words fly in from you not even thinking of the person at the time.

I'll never forget after I lost my Grandmother I was devoted to.
I was talking to some friends while at Uni, I'd just done really well in a particular part of the course.
We were sitting in a park, I said, '' I wished my Grandmother could have been able to read how well I'd done ''.

An elderly lady walking past, just smiled at us, and said, '' now how do you know she hasn't and can't see all you'll achieve''.

It's a line that's stuck with me since.

Now the cynics and those who just poo poo anything of the supernatural, will just dismiss that as fanciful madness.

However that started to have me open my mind more.
Then as I say, privately I've come across things, I can't explain and neither can others, other than just dismiss or ridicule.
So I only talk about other instances privately.

So as not to fuel, dismissiveness and it's all nonsense, when to others, it isn't or may be far from it.

Even before I opened my own mind to this, while I doubted things people had said to me up to 15.
I still listened to them, rather than just treat them as paranoid or insecure individuals, just because I at that time I didn't myself share their views from their experiences.

...the human of limits and measures dismissing something without limits and measures, eh Joey...such a strange notion...

...with your grandmother..?...she passed in the complete confidence and belief in you that you would always do well...so no reading that was ever necessary..because she knew..?...is I guess, the thing...

Yes, my house is haunted

...did you see/hear anything etc of your hauntings, Liam...?...

I don't believe in ghosts because the human persona is so clearly (and demonstrably) linked to the physical and chemical structure of the brain. A "person" can be changed completely with chemicals or by a physical brain injury (either trauma, or a tumor, or deliberate i.e. lobotomy) SO it makes no sense that after the brain-meat has burned or rotted there's anything left of a personality... a "soul" that contains any aspect of the person it came from.

However on the wider "supernatural", I do believe in the possibility of overlapping dimensions, and also in the near-certainty that there's more to physical existence than can be perceived by human senses or observed with current human technology. I mean, that's basically just fact. So in that sense, it's possible that there are things in existence that we can't see or comprehend, and I guess also possible that those could "bleed over" in certain circumstances. It's not really "supernatural" though, just science we don't know yet. "Magic is just science that we don't understand yet", and all that stuff.

Santa occupies another dimension too

...explanations for the ‘unexplainable’ etc, personal experiences and stories as well...

well that is dealt with by quantum physics of course

Yeah, we’ve heard voices, seen figures walking through doorways, I’ve personally had something thrown at me out of nowhere, like has been said we get really strong wafts of loved ones aftershave and stuff, it’s creepy sometimes but we know who it is so it’s fine

...obviously you don’t have to say, Liam and that’s cool..but would the connection be more personal to you/your family or to the house...

That's called schizophrenia.

Mainly to our family personally, but there have been things happen as well where there’s zero possibility of it being connected to us, that was the one that really freaked us out.

My parents have actually been talking about having a psychic come in to see what they think, because they just want to see whether they say anything about it.

...yeah that would be really interesting if your parents didn’t give any specifics of information and just see if something connects from the psychic.../...spooky...

Could also be a small carbon monoxide leak if it's all in the same house.

That's not even a joke :umm2:.

Mock as you please

I’m personally very sceptical about psychics, I think they throw out the vaguest things possible and hope something lands, but my parents believe in them and they were so freaked out by what they saw that they think it’s worth a shot

Na ... there is absolutely not one thread of evidence supporting the theory that ghosts / UFOs/ aliens / telekinesis/ levitation etc etc exists ..


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...this is TiBB, Zizu...our threads don’t need evidence, they just need our presence, our will and our want and personal experience if any have been had etc...

Not at all, it must be exciting though

...I know of quite a well known physic who passed quite recently and wow at how many attended the funeral..(...this was pre Covid times..)...and how much they were respected and loved ...so many people have great belief in them...I guess it’s based on the same thing, though..we can’t generalise because some will ‘throw out’ as you say but that doesn’t for me dismiss something that they may be able to ‘harness’ in a way that most people can’t...

Yeah that’s true, I’ve been to see psychic Sally twice, the first time she was amazing, the second time, she was bunk and didn’t get anything right, there are ones out there that can be accurate and give great readings for sure, but it’s basically the bad ones and conpeople that give them a bad name

I'm not mocking, the vast majority of supernatural encounters with voices or a visual component are schizophrenia, and slow-leak carbon monoxide has been found to be responsible for the hallucinations associated with "supernatural encounters" on several occasions. It can also cause memory loss and paranoia.

Do you believe in ghosts/ghost experiences/spooky stories etc...
 

Well just about every psychic have been caught cheating on loads of occasions .. just open up YouTube and search their name and cheating / debunking to see the clips ..


James Randi is the guy to research if anyone is interested in all the cheats and scams .. he’s the guy who showed that Uri Gellar was a cheat - LIVE in American telly

https://youtu.be/Kor_L12bBB0


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Well yes that's because psychic powers aren't real, so the only difference between a psychic who hasn't been caught cheating and a psychic who has been caught cheating, is that the one who hasn't is better at cheating...

Don't get me wrong a lot of it is quite impressive and a lot of fun, but it's the same as any magician... it's psychological illusions and purely for entertainment. For me, as with magicians, the fun is in trying to figure out how the "trick" is done.

Sorry Mr ‘two dimensions’

They get thousands ( even millions ) out of gullible/ susceptible / vulnerable people though .. that’s the tragedy


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..yeah it’s always the ‘bad’ in everything that have the greatest voice to form opinions on the overall, you know..I went to a clairvoyant when I was younger...it was not something I intended to do, more an ‘accidental or coincidence’, type thing...I don’t know how to explain it....but wow, it was just unbelievable in my own one personal experience...nothing at all that could have possibly just ‘thrown out there’, you know...

Multi-dimensional theory is based in very real science :shrug:. Someone's nan claiming to be having a chat with your great uncle from World War 2 is ITV2 afternoon telly.

You know what, for someone that claims to want to be able to have free, open and amicable debates, you spend a lot of your time mocking and taking down to people for beliefs and opinions that don’t align with yours

My sister went to one recently and she was given a recording of it and honestly, the things the woman came out with, you wouldn’t be able to just pull from thin air, all she had was her first name and it was amazing, every now and then you get one that just blows you away and yes, it’s not exactly life changing, but at least it’s extremely comforting

just did some research prior...

I really don't believe in any of this stuff but I did go to a psychic years ago and one thing she said to me was so specific, down to actual names, I still can't figure it out. She got a lot wrong as well but this one thing she got right was really bizarre and pretty creepy tbh

Yeah it’s bizarre, this one got names right, obscure nicknames, health situations, family relationships, she even got details about items passed down after someone died right and it was just amazing, 60 quid a pop mind but, she was easily the best we’ve heard of