Do psychic abilities exist?
 

I'm sure this sort of thread's been done to death on here but they've never ended well for obvious reasons. I thought I'd try it again but this time with a bit more respectfulness from either side (which isn't too much to ask), bearing in mind people from different religious and cultural backgrounds think different things about this thing.

They used to.

Like I said people from different cultural backgrounds will have different things to say for this so there's no need to dismiss people who do believe in them (and vice versa). Respectfulness isn't a great deal to ask for so this thread shouldn't end up closed (touch wood).

Covid killed them...nobody can predict that seemingly.

People from certain cultures have seen more unusual things than you have. Not everyone looks at these things from a modern Western perspective.

We can all see things whilst out our tits on plant juices.

I don't know is my answer at this time.
However I wouldn't dismiss the possibility or probability that some individuals may have.

I'd say no more likely to clairvoyants.
I can't say yes to all, nor say no either.

So cannot put a vote on your poll Redway.
Good question from you however and I will read the contributions mostly with interest.

And I’m going to say yes, they have. I say that as someone who’s a lot more exposed to non-Western cultures than you have. Trust me.

Maybe you'd like to expand? I'm a believer myself but wouldon't be interested to hear why you feel it's a cultural issue.

In non-Western cultures deeply rooted in spirituality and mythology stranger things exist than future-telling (no matter what LT says). That much is for sure.

I don't know if they do, but I'd like to think they do. :p

idk what to believe, so i couldn't click no in the poll

Since the question is do psychic abilities exist.

I've decided to vote yes as I do believe they can.
Although most recognised clairvoyants I don't think have it.

As is ours for me, mythology has little to do with psychic ability though. LT isn't a believer and that's his prerogative, you can't dictate only one viewpoint participates in a debate.
You asked a question, if you don't want differing responses maybe you shouldn't have asked.

If psychic abilities existed they would be provable (and not just in a vague "my aunt's friend says..." way, in an actual in-depth study) as there would be a MASSIVE incentive to prove and market these abilities.

As they have never been proven and have actually been effectively dis-proven (the Nazis, followed by other governments, tried really hard to uncover psychic abilities all throughout the 20th century with no success) so I'm quite confident in saying that no, they don't exist.

:)


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Errrrrr .... no


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Proof or evidence.... perhaps ??


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Big fat no

I don’t think that’s what I said and you know it. I said non-believers should show as much respect to the other side as they would. Read my OP again if you think I’m only after one particular kind of response.

Evidence that certain non-Western cultures entertain spookier ideas?

Evidence that their ideas hold basis in fact/are demonstrable and not based in superstition.

No need for avoidance tactics.. you said YES to the initial question..

I presumed you had some evidence


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But we’re talking about personal beliefs here, not hard science.

When it comes to personal beliefs there really is no need to give tangible evidence. Especially when communicating with people who only have a mechanical contemporary Western perspective to go off.

This definitely Redway.

I've only given my feeling, my thought on the issue.

It's interesting reading the views of others however.
These subjects I've always found interesting.

I’ve never understood the inherent hostile to alternative beliefs some people have. Why is it so hard for personal beliefs to be accepted without having to present it as a scientific argument?

I suppose when it comes to psychics, they can be harmful to people or used to manipulate people. Also if you start a thread about a topic people are going to give you their opinions as well

Which I’m not against receiving. I just wanted to keep a modicum of respectfulness about it on both sides. That’s all.

Interested to hear more about these 'non-Western' cultures that have 'for sure' seen stranger things than fortune telling

I know in rural communities in Africa and Asia that belief in witchcraft is quite strong if that's what you mean?

No one has been disrespectful though that I can see. There is nothing wrong with questioning things, its how people learn and expand their knowledge.

Yup. And all those collective communities are half of the world.

And all of that did exist in Western cultures tbf until it was gradually discarded

Mmmmmm these people who are scared of their own reflection or think they’ve had their souls stolen if someone takes their photograph?


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Until you’ve got first-hand experience dealing with different cultures you won’t know.

That’s nice.

You need to explain more about your first hand experience. Otherwise it just seems like you've made this thread to say you know more than anyone else and anyone who questions it doesn't know **** because you know more. You've not really added anything to it other than ask for respect passive aggressively whilst adding no substance

The cultural perspective I’m coming from is pretty personal to me so I don’t need to spin it out if I don’t want to.

Where I’m coming from has nothing to do with you. Nor is it necessary for my peace of mind that you understand me.