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Smithy 16-12-2020 09:36 AM

For the first time in HISTORY UNICEF will help feed children in the UK
 


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arista 16-12-2020 09:58 AM

Thats good

Crimson Dynamo 16-12-2020 10:01 AM

looks a nice healthy box but they will need sugar for the weetabix as kids wont like it just with milk

Oliver_W 16-12-2020 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 10970162)
Thats good

It's not good that it needs to happen.

That said, I reject the idea that this is the first time children in the UK could have done with help with UNICEF, that predates the current ****ty government by ... forever.

Smithy 16-12-2020 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 10970162)
Thats good

How is it good that the 6th richest economy in the world needs a charity to feed children?

It’s shameful

Zizu 16-12-2020 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 10970172)
How is it good that the 6th richest economy in the world needs a charity to feed children?



It’s shameful



I’ve never understood how the USA are apparently the worlds richest country whilst at the same time being the country with the largest debt !!!


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The Slim Reaper 16-12-2020 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 10970200)
I’ve never understood how the USA are apparently the worlds richest country whilst at the same time being the country with the largest debt !!!


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Because debt for a country is not the same as debt for a person. It's actually really easy to explain though. Constant 40 year tax cuts and endless war don't really work out too well for a nations finances. Throw in the odd capitalism crisis like 08, and there you have your debt.

Alf 16-12-2020 11:31 AM

Why, is there children in need?

If only we had a charity that raises millions every year to help children in need.

Zizu 16-12-2020 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10970206)
Because debt for a country is not the same as debt for a person. It's actually really easy to explain though. Constant 40 year tax cuts and endless war don't really work out too well for a nations finances. Throw in the odd capitalism crisis like 08, and there you have your debt.



But it still seems odd that the richest country can also be the poorest one .. at the same time ?


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Oliver_W 16-12-2020 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 10970222)
But it still seems odd that the richest country can also be the poorest one .. at the same time ?


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Having money and owing money aren't mutually exclusive.

The Slim Reaper 16-12-2020 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 10970222)
But it still seems odd that the richest country can also be the poorest one .. at the same time ?


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Not really, anyone with a mortgage has more debt than someone living in social housing, but they obviously have more wealth.

Alf 16-12-2020 11:47 AM

I said the same to Marcus Rashford.

While what he was trying to achieve was very noble of him, he was asking the wrong people for the funding. It's not the governments job to pay for people's children. However, there is a charity that raises millions every year, actually called "Children in need" I told Rashford, by tweet, to pester them, it makes far more sense.

Crimson Dynamo 16-12-2020 11:48 AM


Withano 16-12-2020 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 10970162)
Thats good

It’s not good. Your government is failing the public.

thesheriff443 16-12-2020 11:52 AM

I have time for people that find themselves in genuine need but there are plenty that use food banks so they can spend their benefits on drink drugs and fags.

Crimson Dynamo 16-12-2020 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 10970243)
I have time for people that find themselves in genuine need but there are plenty that use food banks so they can spend their benefits on drink drugs and fags.

devious people will always take advantage of well-meaning people and hide it all behind morality

The Slim Reaper 16-12-2020 11:56 AM

Funny how the "all lives matter" and "we need to look after our own" are the same people who see no issue with the a government willing to let our own children starve. It's almost like they weren''t being totally honest. Almost.

DouglasS 16-12-2020 11:59 AM

Moreso I think people are saying the system perhaps needs some changes, some people will abuse the money and spend it on drugs/alcohol rather than feeding their children/dependents. perhaps those with children’s allowance should receive vouchers to ensure their child does not go hungry as this cannot be spent on other things

Alf 16-12-2020 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10970251)
Funny how the "all lives matter" and "we need to look after our own" are the same people who see no issue with the a government willing to let our own children starve. It's almost like they weren''t being totally honest. Almost.

That money doesn't belong to the government, it' s the peoples money.

You want to force the people into paying for other people's children, like you're some kind of dictator.

On the other hand, charity is a free choice to give.

The Slim Reaper 16-12-2020 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10970266)
That money doesn't belong to the government, it' s the peoples money.

You want to force the people into paying for other people's children, like you're some kind of dictator.

On the other hand, charity is a free choice to give.

I think the job of any government is to provide the most basic of needs for it's population. Yes, I do want my taxes to pay for other peoples children, just like I want my taxes to pay for their healthcare too. What I don't want is my money being used to give out PPE contracts to tory donors that circulate our wealth between themselves. Pretty simple.

Crimson Dynamo 16-12-2020 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DouglasS (Post 10970256)
Moreso I think people are saying the system perhaps needs some changes, some people will abuse the money and spend it on drugs/alcohol rather than feeding their children/dependents. perhaps those with children’s allowance should receive vouchers to ensure their child does not go hungry as this cannot be spent on other things

good post DOuglass

The Slim Reaper 16-12-2020 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DouglasS (Post 10970256)
Moreso I think people are saying the system perhaps needs some changes, some people will abuse the money and spend it on drugs/alcohol rather than feeding their children/dependents. perhaps those with children’s allowance should receive vouchers to ensure their child does not go hungry as this cannot be spent on other things

Other than being the big scary monster, people use to justify cruelty towards the poor, what are the statistics about benefits being used for drugs rather than family support?

Alf 16-12-2020 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10970271)
I think the job of any government is to provide the most basic of needs for it's population. Yes, I do want my taxes to pay for other peoples children, just like I want my taxes to pay for their healthcare too. What I don't want is my money being used to give out PPE contracts to tory donors that circulate our wealth between themselves. Pretty simple.

You might want that, but other tax payers don't.

Cherie 16-12-2020 12:08 PM

There was an item on the London news about Bow food bank last week, they got 74,000 in cash donations afterwards, probably higher by now, where is all this money going? That's just one food bank!

Every time I pass/ donate food in the supermarket the box is bursting with food as well

Is this the same where you shop?

Alf 16-12-2020 12:13 PM

If I'm being told that there are Children in need of feeding, then I'm questioning what the charity "Children in need" is doing to help? Because that's what they're there for, to help children in need, it says so on the tin.

The Slim Reaper 16-12-2020 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10970277)
You might want that, but other tax payers don't.

You would rather your tax contributions go to tory donors than hungry kids? Is this where we've arrived?

Alf 16-12-2020 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10970290)
You would rather your tax contributions go to tory donors than hungry kids? Is this where we've arrived?

Obviously not.

But like I keep saying, with charities like children in need, then kids shouldn't need to beg the government for food. You do know that Children in need is sitting on millions of pounds, I've seen them tweet saying that themselves.

The Slim Reaper 16-12-2020 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10970296)
Obviously not.

But like I keep saying, with charities like children in need, then kids shouldn't need to beg the government for food. You do know that Children in need is sitting on millions of pounds, I've seen them tweet saying that themselves.

Charities and government are not the same or interchangeable. I have issues with CIN, I never give them a penny, but that doesn't absolve the gov of doing the bare minimum.

Poverty and child poverty numbers in this country are obscene, and it was so prior to covid.

Alf 16-12-2020 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10970303)
Charities and government are not the same or interchangeable. I have issues with CIN, I never give them a penny, but that doesn't absolve the gov of doing the bare minimum.

Poverty and child poverty numbers in this country are obscene, and it was so prior to covid.

Bucke up, because it's gonna get much worse. We've all seen this year the attempts to crash the economy.

China will be our masters in the near future.if they're not already.

The Slim Reaper 16-12-2020 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10970306)
Bucke up, because it's gonna get much worse. We've all seen this year the attempts to crash the economy.

China will be our masters in the near future.

You make it sound like there's nothing that can be done, when that's just nonsense. It's a choice that we as a country keep endorsing because the absolute monstrosity of tory cruelty keeps being voted back in to do more damage. Unfortunately labour are also run by a tory, so there's not much hope of any alternative.

Alf 16-12-2020 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10970307)
You make it sound like there's nothing that can be done, when that's just nonsense. It's a choice that we as a country keep endorsing because the absolute monstrosity of tory cruelty keeps being voted back in to do more damage. Unfortunately labour are also run by a tory, so there's not much hope of any alternative.

Tories or Labour don't rule or run anything. The Politicians are just puppets, actors.

Until the people work out that they have the power, then nothing will change.

If you think you can put any one other than the chosen establishment into government, then you're just dreaming. Anyone who attempts to challenge them will be deplatformed, branded a bigot, a racist, a sexist. Anything to discredit them and to shut them down. Alternatively they might be called a looney leftie, Commie, whatever it takes to stop them.

Donald Trump was/is our only hope. But you've seen what lengths they'd go to to stop him.

The Slim Reaper 16-12-2020 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10970313)
Tories or Labour don't rule or run anything. The Politicians are just puppets, actors.

Until the people work out that they have the power, then nothing will change.

If you think you can put any one other than the chosen establishment into government, then you're just dreaming. Anyone who attempts to challenge them will be deplatformed, branded a bigot, a racist, a sexist. Anything to discredit them and to shut them down. Alternatively they might be called a looney leftie, Commie, whatever it takes to stop them.

Donald Trump was/is our only hope. But you've seen what lengths they'd go to to stop him.

I mean you sort of hit on the problem, because that's what happened to Corbyn who had intentions to make society a fairer place, but then you present the (pretend) billionaire who used his office to enrich himself, his family, and other rich people, so...

Alf 16-12-2020 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10970318)
I mean you sort of hit on the problem, because that's what happened to Corbyn who had intentions to make society a fairer place, but then you present the (pretend) billionaire who used his office to enrich himself, his family, and other rich people, so...

Trump is the only one who has taken on the establishment, it's because he's not a politician. While I'm sure Corbyn means well, at the end of the day he is a career politician and he answers to the money people, Trump doesn't, he doesn't need too.

The Slim Reaper 16-12-2020 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10970321)
Trump is the only one who has taken on the establishment, it's because he's not a politician. While I'm sure Corbyn means we'll, at the end of the day he is a career politician and he answers to the money people, Trump doesn't, he doesn't need too.

He didn't take on any establishment. A NY property developer is the epitome of establishment. His policies were always republican policies.

Oliver_W 16-12-2020 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10970296)
Obviously not.

But like I keep saying, with charities like children in need, then kids shouldn't need to beg the government for food. You do know that Children in need is sitting on millions of pounds, I've seen them tweet saying that themselves.

When cuts are being made to welfare programs and support systems such as SureStart, the least the government can do is make sure kids have something to eat. Tbh all children should be entitled to free school meals, and this should be honoured when the schools are closed too. And sure, this could be in the form of vouchers, or some kind of food subscription service.

As for CiN, since 1980 its garnered about 1.5 billion. That's an average of about 37 million per year. With about 12 million children in the UK, that'd give them about three million to feed each child. But of course, as a charity they have to pay their admin staff! And the money doesn't just go to fedi g children, one charity it supports is one that campaigns against mothers being imprisoned. The money also gets squandered on crap like helping a girl sue her school because she didn't want to wear the uniform.

To expect a charity to pick up the slack of a neglectful government isn't the way to go.

Alf 16-12-2020 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10970327)
He didn't take on any establishment. A NY property developer is the epitome of establishment. His policies were always republican policies.

He told you right from the start and has been saying it ever since what his polices are, America first. He's for all America, and that's why he won easily and that's why we're gonna find out how big they tried cheating him.

Alf 16-12-2020 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10970333)
When cuts are being made to welfare programs and support systems such as SureStart, the least the government can do is make sure kids have something to eat. Tbh all children should be entitled to free school meals, and this should be honoured when the schools are closed too. And sure, this could be in the form of vouchers, or some kind of food subscription service.

As for CiN, since 1980 its garnered about 1.5 billion. That's an average of about 37 million per year. With about 12 million children in the UK, that'd give them about three million to feed each child. But of course, as a charity they have to pay their admin staff! And the money doesn't just go to fedi g children, one charity it supports is one that campaigns against mothers being imprisoned. The money also gets squandered on crap like helping a girl sue her school because she didn't want to wear the uniform.

To expect a charity to pick up the slack of a neglectful government isn't the way to go.

They're not picking up any stick, there are Children in need, there is a charity that helps children in need, use it.

The Slim Reaper 16-12-2020 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10970334)
He told you right from the start and has been saying it ever since what his polices are, America first. He's for all America, and that's why he won easily and that's why we're gonna find out how big they tried cheating him.

Just like every republican. Him saying he was anti-establishment doesn't make it true. The only thing he was really different about, was sucking up to Putin, befriending dictators, and being as openly hostile to minorities. Everything else was exactly the same.

Tom4784 16-12-2020 01:14 PM

Rule Britannia! Britannia rules the waves! Greatest country in the world, innit? We don't need help, the world needs us, we don't need them!

Tom4784 16-12-2020 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10970290)
You would rather your tax contributions go to tory donors than hungry kids? Is this where we've arrived?

As long as the Tories keep bleating on about immigrants, Tory voters don't care where tax goes. They've been cheering for tax money lining the pockets of the rich for years in the guise that the Tories will do something about immigrants.

A Trump supporter famously said that she was angry at Trump because he wasn't hurting the 'right people' (Read: Non-white people) and I think that attitude applies to the Tory supporters. They don't care if supporting the Tories hurts them, just as long as the Tories demonise immigrants and appeals to their hatred, it's all fine and dandy.


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