Boris Johnson lands a great Brexit deal
 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-55429840

Copy and paste feature on my phone isn’t working so can’t copy the article so I’ve linked it.

Need some positivity floating about and Boris has kept both sides happy with this Brexit deal (both Europe and the U.K.) :clap1:

Well done to Boris

My brother works in the government and everyone is so chuffed with The deal Boris managed to achieve, basically have removed the U.Ks obligations whilst maintains the trade as norm. :clap1:

i think he has done well and deserves a lot of credit given so many said he only wanted a no deal brexit. It was always going to be a compromise, and one that has both sides happy is a great outcome

Agree. The markets should stablelise and my investments are gonna go thru the roof. Now's the time to reallocate my portfolio. :dance: :cheer:

That's great news!

I always knew BJ wouldnt disappoint

It’s basically the same deal T May made. The one everyone voted against and Bojo resigned over.

its completely different, stop making statements out of your arse because they smell like ****.

Had Labour won in December 2019 or there been a coalition after that election.
A deal certainly would have been assured.

The Lib Dem policy of stopping brexit was utterly ridiculous.

I feared a no deal was looming, under Johnson, egged on by his harder line Ministers.
However, indeed, I'm really pleased a deal has been struck, the EU seems content with it too.
So absolutely, I welcome this deal, I dreaded a no deal scenario, so absolutely this outcome is welcome.

If some of his harder line backbenchers are unhappy with it, then I'm further pleased Labour will be lined up to support it too.

That's the right thing to do, as I think it's important parliament supports this by the biggest possible margin.

So yes, well done to Johnson and the negotiators on both sides, the EU and UK.
At least for the foreseeable future the moving on from this can start to be and can be done too.

BJ will go down in history as one of the greats. in fact get a statue up in parliament square now.

It’s literally so similar so stop talking out of your rose tinted bojo boner

can we not have BJ's, Boners and ar$ses on Jesus's bloody Birthday

:oh:

Thank goodness it’s sorted.
Now hopefully we can get back to some kind of normal......ohhh beggar, there is still covid to deal with.
Well done to all the negotiators on both sides.

no doubt next week we will have a new strain of no-deal brexit and we will have to go back to the negotiating table or the EU will be ovverrun..D:

Politics needs to go back to being boring again. It's been far too dramatic in the last few years.

I agree.

Hopefully everyone can come together regardless of their party beliefs and celebrate Boris’s victory, much like Joey has. Not everything has to be a battle :)

I don't know if it'll be a great deal, but at least it's not a no deal Brexit.

I love Boris....pulled it off. He has had a lot on his plate during his short time as PM. Brexit plus Covid...he deserves some credit.

Oh you are being serious :umm2:

What does that say about the opposing labour party with beardy wierdy in charge who opposed her, compared to mr labour now..mr yessy wessy...

I prefer squify quify myself.. but I'm not confident enough in my spelling to start a chunt about it.:smug:a

Just shows that BoJos job is more secure than TMays was. Labour leader is voting it through because it’s marginally better than a no deal, not because it’s a good deal.

I don't think folks understand what great means, because this isn't it. We've gone from "they'll be begging is for a deal" to being poorer and with fewer rights.

No one would go into a salary negotiation, come out with a paycut, then call it a great deal. The folly of accepting 4th best in exchange for mythical sovereignty that this deal doesn't achieve.

To be fair, they probably would if they had demanded a pay rise in a huff and then gone into the meeting expecting to be fired.

The May deal was pretty much going to tie us to all the EU rules and regs so it is completely different to anything May came up with

Its a trade deal, that's what people are failing to grasp. In itself its ok. Boris never set out to have integration with the EU, that's why we left. We voted not to be part of the united states of europe and that's what we now have. Also, lets not kid ourselves, both sides were desperate to have a deal, thats why drop dead dates were continuously revised. I voted remain, but I am completely fed up with the whole thing now. We have a baseline that is not as catastrophic as it could have been and future governments are free to negotiate revised terms as and when they want

"Not as catastrophic as it could have been" doesn't work quite as well on the side of a bus. The greatest con ever pulled on the nation, that will cost us for decades to come until we rejoin..

Honestly as a remainer I think we just need to move on now, it’s done and can probably be undone in a few years, feels pretty pointless to argue about it, the grass was greener for 52% and I am sure for some it will be, there will be winners and losers in this brave be world

Bojo is off to India in the NY I would say free movement of people might be on the cards in any trade deal :laugh:

Just pointing out the actual facts, not the made up ones. Promised the world, and delivered less than catastrophe. Also a lot of revisionism in here about the fact Boris tried to illegally shut down parliament last year to force us out on a no deal. Ironically, I think covid and the mess our economy is in from that, is the only reason why we even have this deal at all. I didn't start this thread, but I can address the misinformation.

since the 1970's it's been pretty much a 50/50 split with the common market onward, so it's anything but a con, people just got the opportunity to express what they wanted. It has never been any different. Like I said, i wanted to remain, but i'm not unhappy with the deal as it is now

Best not mention buses in a thread about Brexit.

It's not much different from May's deal by all accounts, everything since then has been pageantry and bluster to appeal to the gullible and easily pleased.

It's a mediocre outcome but better than the one Boris wanted. When it comes to Boris Johnson, mediocrity is the best outcome we can hope for considering how much he's screwed the pooch on everything else. It won't stop Tory supporters from blindly acting like he's the second coming though. It's all quite sad.

Looks like the hardcore left cannot even be happy and forget about parties when government have done a great job keeping all parties happy

You know Boris has done a great job though when they say he’s done “mediocre”, that means absolutely fantastic if some people are saying that who will never have anything positive to say. Well done Boris!

You may be easily pleased with mediocrity as long as it's coming from your beloved tories, but I expect better from the leadership.

Making excuses for poor leadership is just sad and undignified. A government is supposed to work for the betterment of it's citizens, citizens aren't meant to bend over backwards and lick the boots of those in charge yet tory supporters regularly engage in hero worship of people like Boris when it should be the opposite way around.

It's such a shame that so much of this country is so easily led, so gullible, so foolish. You can't see the forest for the trees, and you never will.

In what universe is making us poorer and with fewer rights, a "great deal?"

This deal actually makes sure this is never really over, and the same fights over sovereignty and fish will be fought every couple of years.

He’s done absolute ****e

What aspect of life in Britain is better post-brexit than beforehand?

I say well done to to the EU it's down to them we weren't chowing down to chlorinated turkey!!

I seem to remember saying this in 2015..

We're going back to our colonialist roots, bring people here to work with limited rights and when they've served their purpose back they go.

That was how Windrush was meant to go if it weren't for the pesky rights of children. They'll be none of those now.

It was the public who voted brexit.. you can’t blame him for fulfilling democracy.

He has got a deal where we are not stuck to obligations, yet are still able to trade freely. Therefore the fact we still have fantastic trade links and deals with Europe speaks for how much better he has done, preventing a no deal that so many were scared of/ the left were saying was going to happen and how bad it’d be. Now he’s proved the left wrong people have gone back to blaming ‘Brexit’ :rolleyes:

I welcome the no deal scenario gone out the window now but I do believe that Johnson was happy to appease his more hard-line brexiteers with no deal if he could have got away with it.

However I think events have made it that even he has realised, the no deal dream had to be averted.
I personally think that was down to 2 things in the main.

This pandemic and it's effects in the UK and on his own trust level.
Plus the defeat of Trump in the States.
Where Biden was not of the brexit supporting side.

So that and this now worrying uncertain second wave of the virus has made it that a major push had to be done in the end to secure some deal.

I would and do support any deal over no deal.
Johnson and his harder line brexiteers would have been happy with that outcome of no deal.
My view on him and that hasn't changed at all.

His hand was forced again, however proving there was a deal to be done.
Which should never have taken to this last almost minute of time.
Plus for me, no deal should never have ever been talked of, never mind nearly allowed to happen.

So on this u turn by him, I do congratulate him.
He hasn't pleased his harder line brexiteers, so I congratulate him on that too.
So for me this deal needs to be supported and implemented.

There's a lot of wording in it and scrutinising it won't be easy in the time left.
However for me again too, the EU are happy with it and for my sins, I trust the EU more than our own UK government.

I have many other reasons and personal ones too for neither liking or trusting Johnson and his Ministers.

At last on brexit however, he has secured and agreed a deal with the EU.
For which I do congratulate the government and the EU on.
Because for me, no deal was one of the worst, and most ugly wording and threat to come out of the whole brexit scenario.

So I'm glad those harder line Con MP who were
supporters of that, and the hard line former Labour MPs like Gisela Stuart, haven't and now are never going to get their no deal hope realised.

So yes, I hope this deal is passed with a massive majority which I think it will.
With a strong majority of Labour MPs backing it too.
Rightly so too when the only alternative to this would be a disastrous no deal.

Yeah, it was the public that were gullible enough to ignore the facts because some people fed them lies in order to get better tax deals for the rich and to likely, in time, erode worker's rights and health rights.

But seriously, it's the fault of the Tories for not getting a good deal and the public for being dumb enough to set this nightmare into motion and then choosing the worst candidates to handle brexit in the elections that followed.

This is really short sighted, Joey. Firstly, a deal is obviously better than no-deal, but this deal only delays that outcome. There is a 4yr review built into this, so we will have 4 years of hard right campaigning against it. It's a pretty bad deal from our perspective, so it will actually provide the ammunition for that to be a successful long term strategy.

Because it's such a bad deal, any honest opposition shouldn't be anywhere near this. Only folks happy to accept the consequences of this trash should rubber stamp it, and it's another example of starmer having no clue about what he is doing, lurching from pandering to more pandering. The votes to pass this already exist, so why put your fingerprints on a deal that fails the 6 tests for a brexit deal set out by labour?