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Crimson Dynamo 11-01-2021 06:51 PM

BREAKING: Parler Sues Amazon After Being Suspended
 
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On Monday, the left wing social media site Parler filed a lawsuit against Amazon,
claiming that Amazon’s suspension of Parler violated antitrust laws and
breached the contract between the two entities.

As Parler went dark Monday morning, CEO John Matze told Fox News that the
site would try to “get back online as quickly as possible,” but warned that
the platform could be down for as long as a week.

Reuters reported, “Amazon suspended Parler from its Amazon Web Services
(AWS) unit for violating AWS’s terms of services by failing to effectively deal
with a steady increase in violent content, according to an email by an AWS
Trust and Safety team to Parler, seen by Reuters. An Amazon spokesperson
confirmed the letter was authentic.”

https://www.dailywire.com/news/parle...eing-suspended

The Slim Reaper 11-01-2021 06:54 PM

"left wing social media site parler" :joker:

The Slim Reaper 11-01-2021 06:56 PM

It's like threatening to get the police involved on here if you get banned, and no one would ever do that, I'm sure :nono:

Tom4784 11-01-2021 06:56 PM

Aww, are the nazis upset that their insurrection app got delisted? Aw diddums.

Scarlett. 11-01-2021 06:57 PM

Again, a private hosting company reserves the right to deny service. Parler has no ground to stand on.

DouglasS 11-01-2021 06:58 PM

More censorship. Fake reasons as well ‘violent content’ is on every single social media platform...

GiRTh 11-01-2021 06:59 PM

So this the new whinge, is it? They're trying to censor us. Brilliant :laugh:

Tom4784 11-01-2021 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 10983274)
So this the new whinge, is it? They're trying to censor us. Brilliant :laugh:

Trying to inform the right wing what censorship is, is like trying to teach a donkey how to play Beethoven's 29th on the piano.

DouglasS 11-01-2021 07:03 PM

People need to stop being snowflakes and so sensitive :skull:

If you want to get ahead in work or whatever in life you need to be tougher and just get on with it instead of just being a forever victim. Crying over words Donald Trump, or whoever else (Katie Hopkins or Farage) is just not worth your time. Complaining about it also. These people get ahead in life because they’re ambitious and spend less time whining and being ‘woke’

If someone disagrees with your views on LGBT, politics, religion or whatever stop crying about it and move on

Scarlett. 11-01-2021 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DouglasS (Post 10983277)
People need to stop being snowflakes and so sensitive :skull:

If you want to get ahead in work or whatever in life you need to be tougher and just get on with it instead of just being a forbeee victim. Crying over words Donald Trump, or whoever else (Katie Hopkins or Farage) is just not worth your time. Complaining about it also. These people get ahead in life because they’re ambitious and spend less time whining and being ‘woke’

If someone disagrees with your views on LGBT, politics, religion stop crying about it

It's funny to see right wingers call others 'snowflakes' after this past week

GiRTh 11-01-2021 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10983275)
Trying to inform the right wing what censorship is, is like trying to teach a donkey how to play Beethoven's 29th on the piano.

True.

Its not even original though. They've been claiming censorship whenever an arsehole get banned for being an arsehole. Its quite comical to see this argument trotted out again.:laugh:

Tom4784 11-01-2021 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DouglasS (Post 10983277)
People need to stop being snowflakes and so sensitive :skull:

If you want to get ahead in work or whatever in life you need to be tougher and just get on with it instead of just being a forbeee victim. Crying over words Donald Trump, or whoever else (Katie Hopkins or Farage) is just not worth your time. Complaining about it also. These people get ahead in life because they’re ambitious and spend less time whining and being ‘woke’

You've been screaming about censorship over Donald Trump, a man with a press conference room in his house, because he was banned on Twitter. Can you really call anyone else a snowflake? Can you really accuse anyone of being a victim if you're pushing a narrative that the right are being censored when they clearly aren't?

Your post is nothing but rampant projection.

Crimson Dynamo 11-01-2021 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DouglasS (Post 10983277)
People need to stop being snowflakes and so sensitive :skull:

If you want to get ahead in work or whatever in life you need to be tougher and just get on with it instead of just being a forever victim. Crying over words Donald Trump, or whoever else (Katie Hopkins or Farage) is just not worth your time. Complaining about it also. These people get ahead in life because they’re ambitious and spend less time whining and being ‘woke’

If someone disagrees with your views on LGBT, politics, religion or whatever stop crying about it and move on

good post, hard truth is always a difficult truth to own

Tom4784 11-01-2021 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scarlett. (Post 10983280)
It's funny to see right wingers call others 'snowflakes' after this past week

Yes, considering they are so snowflakey that they tried to launch a coup when they lost an election, remember how the right accused Hillary supporters of sour grapes in 2016? You just can't make up the complete and utter hypocrisy.

Captain.Remy 11-01-2021 08:19 PM

MAGA supporters being the biggest snowflakes ever since last week is so satisfying, and we love to see it :love:

The Slim Reaper 11-01-2021 08:23 PM

As someone who isn't a capitalist, it's baffling to see capitalists not understand how capitalism works.

DouglasS 11-01-2021 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10983326)
As someone who isn't a capitalist, it's baffling to see capitalists not understand how capitalism works.

It’s just as interesting to see people who are against capitalism applaud it when it suits their beliefs

The Slim Reaper 11-01-2021 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DouglasS (Post 10983327)
It’s just as interesting to see people who are against capitalism applaud it when it suits their beliefs

Applauding and understanding are two different things.

DouglasS 11-01-2021 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10983328)
Applauding and understanding are two different things.

Who doesn’t understand capitalism?

The Slim Reaper 11-01-2021 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DouglasS (Post 10983350)
Who doesn’t understand capitalism?

Anyone calling this censorship, for starters.

DouglasS 11-01-2021 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10983353)
Anyone calling this censorship, for starters.

Well maybe it’s actually you who does not know the meaning of censorship or capitalism.

Here is the definition:

Censorship is the suppression of speech, public communication, or other information, on the basis that such material is considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, or "inconvenient." Censorship can be conducted by governments, private institutions, and other controlling bodies.


Stating I think something is censorship does not mean I do not know what capitalism is.. they are not directly correlated...

What a ridiculous assumption you’ve come to. It’s like quoting someone who disagrees with meat eating and saying they don’t know what capitalism is... they can go hand in hand

The Slim Reaper 11-01-2021 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DouglasS (Post 10983357)
Well maybe it’s actually you who does not know the meaning of censorship

Here is the definition:

Censorship is the suppression of speech, public communication, or other information, on the basis that such material is considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, or "inconvenient." Censorship can be conducted by governments, private institutions, and other controlling bodies.

Stating I think something is censorship does not mean I do not know what capitalism in... they can go hand in hand, I never said they were indirectly correlated - you assumed so..

You miss the whole point, and not for the first time. They haven't kicked him off their platforms because of speech. He's said some horrific things without any action being taken against him and the maga's. They've kicked him off because supporting nazi's/coups/insurrections is not something corporations want to be seen openly doing. Has a habit of affecting the bottom line.

DouglasS 11-01-2021 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10983359)
You miss the whole point, and not for the first time. They haven't kicked him off their platforms because of speech. He's said some horrific things without any action being taken against him and the maga's. They've kicked him off because supporting nazi's/coups/insurrections is not something corporations want to be seen openly doing. Has a habit of affecting the bottom line.

You are missing the point I am not denying it’s capitalism at all, it is capitalism. But it’s also censorship. It can be both...

The Slim Reaper 11-01-2021 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DouglasS (Post 10983360)
You are missing the point I am not denying it’s capitalism at all, it is capitalism. But it’s also censorship. It can be both...

It can, but it isn't. If Trumps coup attempt had been successful and he was now El Presidente, those same companies would be up trumps arse, because he would have all the power. They wouldn't be making a stand against him, which shows it's a profit/reputational issue, not speech.

DouglasS 11-01-2021 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10983359)
You miss the whole point, and not for the first time. They haven't kicked him off their platforms because of speech. He's said some horrific things without any action being taken against him and the maga's. They've kicked him off because supporting nazi's/coups/insurrections is not something corporations want to be seen openly doing. Has a habit of affecting the bottom line.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10983362)
It can, but it isn't. If Trumps coup attempt had been successful and he was now El Presidente, those same companies would be up trumps arse, because he would have all the power. They wouldn't be making a stand against him, which shows it's a profit/reputational issue, not speech.

Look at the definition of censorship again. It is not just purely speech that makes Something qualify as censorship. It is censorship. Prevent public communication can qualify as censorship which if this is not based on speech it is based on public communication..

DouglasS 11-01-2021 09:36 PM

FYI

Quote:

Originally Posted by DouglasS (Post 10983357)
Here is the definition:

Censorship is the suppression of speech, public communication, or other information, on the basis that such material is considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, or "inconvenient." Censorship can be conducted by governments, private institutions, and other controlling bodies.


The Slim Reaper 11-01-2021 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DouglasS (Post 10983363)
Look at the definition of censorship again. It is not just purely speech that makes Something qualify as censorship. It is censorship

No, censorship would have meant him being banned years ago, capitalism means it took an attempted coup.

As I pointed out in one of the other threads in reply to you, he wasn't censored when he called mexicans, rapists, and described folks chanting "jews will not replace us," as "very fine people." Also, he's the president and internationally known/loved/loathed. He can still communicate, just not on certain platforms. The founding fathers laid out an example where speech could no longer be considered free or protected by the 1st amendment, and that was shouting fire in a crowded theatre. What Trump did is far worse.

DouglasS 11-01-2021 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DouglasS (Post 10983365)
FYI

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10983368)
No, censorship would have meant him being banned years ago, capitalism means it took an attempted coup.

As I pointed out in one of the other threads in reply to you, he wasn't censored when he called mexicans, rapists, and described folks chanting "jews will not replace us," as "very fine people." Also, he's the president and internationally known/loved/loathed. He can still communicate, just not on certain platforms. The founding fathers laid out an example where speech could no longer be considered free or protected by the 1st amendment, and that was shouting fire in a crowded theatre. What Trump did is far worse.

Censorship doesn’t have a time span.. by that logic anyone who has been censored before hasn’t truly been censored if they had past history of being controversial.. that is not true.. just because he wasn’t censored in the past doesn’t mean he’s not being censored now..

The definition is clear as day, regardless of whether you agree with censorship or not all you genuinely need is basic literacy to see this is censorship going by the definition. It Does not necessarily mean you have to disagree with, some censorship is arguably good :shrug:

The Slim Reaper 11-01-2021 09:46 PM

Finally, all of those companies will have a terms of service. If you breach that, just like here, and get banned, you're not being censored. I'm guessing inciting violence/riots/hate speech etc, aren't allowed under the ToS.

reece(: 11-01-2021 09:48 PM

the left wing social media site

had me.

But then I saw the source was some blog post. :joker::joker:

The Slim Reaper 11-01-2021 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DouglasS (Post 10983370)
Censorship doesn’t have a time span.. by that logic anyone who has been censored before hasn’t truly been censored if they had past history of being controversial.. that is not true.. just because he wasn’t censored in the past doesn’t mean he’s not being censored now..

The definition is clear as day, regardless of whether you agree with censorship or not all you genuinely need is basic literacy to see this is censorship going by the definition. It Does not necessarily mean you have to disagree with, some censorship is arguably good :shrug:

No. He had his free speech, he's been banned as a result of how he used it. There is no such thing as consequence-free speech. I've explained a number of different reasons why you're wrong imo here. We'll see when trump takes these companies to court whether or not it is a free speech issue. If we're both still around, would you like a make a bet on how that issue is decided in court? Charitable donation to a foodbank?

Scarlett. 11-01-2021 10:06 PM

When it comes down to it, Amazon isn't legally obligated to give anyone server space, they have the right to refuse anyone to use their servers, because they are their servers.

Nicky91 12-01-2021 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10983385)
No. He had his free speech, he's been banned as a result of how he used it. There is no such thing as consequence-free speech. I've explained a number of different reasons why you're wrong imo here. We'll see when trump takes these companies to court whether or not it is a free speech issue. If we're both still around, would you like a make a bet on how that issue is decided in court? Charitable donation to a foodbank?

yup he had many chances to post in a better way, people like him have no rights now at free speech, if you only abuse that for the worse


Pence for example posts in a correct manner and he gets to stay on social media

Crimson Dynamo 12-01-2021 08:10 AM

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Mystic Mock 12-01-2021 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DouglasS (Post 10983272)
More censorship. Fake reasons as well ‘violent content’ is on every single social media platform...

It's because allegedly Parler weren't banning the members making the violent content rather than there were violent content on Parler, because as you rightly say all Social Media (and Forums tbh) would be banned.

Nicky91 12-01-2021 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 10983446)
It's because allegedly Parler weren't banning the members making the violent content rather than there were violent content on Parler, because as you rightly say all Social Media (and Forums tbh) would be banned.

Parler lacked the discipline to take on ''violent content'' so it is rightfully removed from the internet

every social media has their rules/policies and i totally support Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, Youtube to take on all far right people who do nothing but post hateful nasty content (whom abuse their social media status for the worse, which is not what social media is meant for)


also calling it ''censorship'' how ridiculous :joker: the people who continue to spread more hate in the world, do not deserve to have freedom of speech if they just abuse it

Crimson Dynamo 12-01-2021 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 10983446)
It's because allegedly Parler weren't banning the members making the violent content rather than there were violent content on Parler, because as you rightly say all Social Media (and Forums tbh) would be banned.

and who specifically was doing the judging what content was "violent" and then checking that the person was not banned?

who is the judge here and what are their credentials?:conf:

Tom4784 12-01-2021 11:43 AM

Saying something is censorship when it isn't won't make it censorship. Repeating something incorrect because it benefits your agenda does not validate it.

DouglasS 12-01-2021 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10983562)
Saying something is censorship when it isn't won't make it censorship. Repeating something incorrect because it benefits your agenda does not validate it.

I am just using the dictionary’s definition of censorship and using that as evidence... obviously you know more than the dictionary and everyone else.

I thought as an author you would understand the meanings of words such as censorship, and understand definitions and meanings.

Just because it’s censorship doesn’t mean it’s always a bad thing, a lot of things get censored for good reasons


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