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arista 08-02-2021 10:32 AM

5 British Villages built with Slave Trade money
 
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Brockhurst (Hampshire)
Deptford (London)
Blankney (Lincolnshire)
Bishop Burton (Yorkshire)
Nunnington (Yorkshire)


This was years ago.
Its part of our History


https://news.sky.com/story/historic-...trade-12211768


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Yes Fella, get that off.

UserSince2005 08-02-2021 10:41 AM

demolish them! all the problems slave trading has caused for a few people to get rich.

Cherie 08-02-2021 10:41 AM

Raze them to the ground?

Oliver_W 08-02-2021 10:58 AM

What's the point in publishing this information? Why would anyone care?

All this kind of thing does is encourage idiots to commit vandalism.

Jessica. 08-02-2021 11:04 AM

Maybe officials from the villages could speak out about the bad past of the places and make minorities feel more welcome?

Ammi 08-02-2021 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10996389)
What's the point in publishing this information? Why would anyone care?

All this kind of thing does is encourage idiots to commit vandalism.

.. because of the preservation funding, I would reckon...the report would have been asked for and would have to be published and open to the public as The Department of Culture is funding £88.5 million ...

Redway 08-02-2021 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10996389)
What's the point in publishing this information? Why would anyone care?

All this kind of thing does is encourage idiots to commit vandalism.

Why would anyone care?

Cherie 08-02-2021 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jessica. (Post 10996391)
Maybe officials from the villages could speak out about the bad past of the places and make minorities feel more welcome?

Do we know they don't feel welcome?

Jessica. 08-02-2021 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10996398)
Do we know they don't feel welcome?

Well the graffitti is one indicator.

arista 08-02-2021 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UserSince2005 (Post 10996382)
demolish them! all the problems slave trading has caused for a few people to get rich.


No Way.

Its just our History
put a sign up,for your worry.

arista 08-02-2021 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10996389)
What's the point in publishing this information? Why would anyone care?

All this kind of thing does is encourage idiots to commit vandalism.



Yes there are Political troublemakers
searching everything,

Oliver_W 08-02-2021 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 10996395)
.. because of the preservation funding, I would reckon...the report would have been asked for and would have to be published and open to the public as The Department of Culture is funding £88.5 million ...

Buildings should be preserved, a questionable history isn't an excuse to yank their funding.

Crimson Dynamo 08-02-2021 11:26 AM

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...JQGXA&usqp=CAU

Ammi 08-02-2021 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10996403)
Buildings should be preserved, a questionable history isn't an excuse to yank their funding.

...you asked why publish the information, what the point of it was, why anyone would care...:laugh:...because it’s being largely funded for its preservation, a report of allocation/spending etc has to exist and it has to be published, Oliver...

Oliver_W 08-02-2021 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 10996405)
...you asked why publish the information, what the point of it was, why anyone would care...:laugh:...because it’s being largely funded for its preservation, a report of allocation/spending etc has to exist and it has to be published, Oliver...

Fair, but why does the links with slavery even need to come into it? It makes no real difference at this point.

Cherie 08-02-2021 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jessica. (Post 10996399)
Well the graffitti is one indicator.

so Racists are spraying BLM on buildings?

Oliver_W 08-02-2021 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jessica. (Post 10996391)
Maybe officials from the villages could speak out about the bad past of the places and make minorities feel more welcome?

That'd be rather condescending.

"Don't worry, black people, you are welcome here!!!"

It's pretty much implied that anyone is welcome anywhere these days, it doesn't need to be stated. If anyone made a big show of talking about the evils of past homophobia and how gays are welcome, that'd be the kind of weirdo I'd stay far away from...

Ammi 08-02-2021 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10996406)
Fair, but why does the links with slavery even need to come into it? It makes no real difference at this point.

...well, it might have some bearing and relevance in any protection of buildings as well as it would all be a part of preservation...?...and especially if any purposeful damage has been a thing....and any possible heightened local feelings in these locations/local social media...these things could all have had a bearing on how funding is allocated, so may have been mentioned in the report...we just don’t know, really...

armand.kay 08-02-2021 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10996389)
What's the point in publishing this information? Why would anyone care?

All this kind of thing does is encourage idiots to commit vandalism.

Your solution is that Britain just continues to sweep its ties to slavery under the rug?

Oliver_W 08-02-2021 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by armand.kay (Post 10996433)
Your solution is that Britain just continues to sweep its ties to slavery under the rug?

What's your solution then?

We're not America, the results of slavery aren't still felt today.

UserSince2005 08-02-2021 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by armand.kay (Post 10996433)
Your solution is that Britain just continues to sweep its ties to slavery under the rug?

Exactly we need to name and shame all those people who got rich for a fast buck 300 years ago causing all these social problems we experience today.
Their families need to be stripped of their wealth.
And the money can go towards solving these problems.

UserSince2005 08-02-2021 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10996447)
What's your solution then?

We're not America, the results of slavery aren't still felt today.

have you seen the BLM protests? Of course the results of slavery are still being felt today.

arista 08-02-2021 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by armand.kay (Post 10996433)
Your solution is that Britain just continues to sweep its ties to slavery under the rug?


No Armand


We put up Educational Sign's
for you to read.

arista 08-02-2021 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UserSince2005 (Post 10996450)
Exactly we need to name and shame all those people who got rich for a fast buck 300 years ago causing all these social problems we experience today.
Their families need to be stripped of their wealth.
And the money can go towards solving these problems.


Sure
they are all dead and gone

UserSince2005 08-02-2021 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10996456)
Sure
they are all dead and gone

Their families still benefit from the wealth of their actions.

Oliver_W 08-02-2021 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UserSince2005 (Post 10996452)
have you seen the BLM protests? Of course the results of slavery are still being felt today.

Like I said, we're not America.

People here protesting about police brutality abroad is a separate issue.

arista 08-02-2021 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UserSince2005 (Post 10996462)
Their families still benefit from the wealth of their actions.


You can not stop that.


Its our British Empire History.

Oliver_W 08-02-2021 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UserSince2005 (Post 10996462)
Their families still benefit from the wealth of their actions.

Lucky them. But at this point, no-one in the UK is worse of because a long forgotten ancestor was a slave.

The Slim Reaper 08-02-2021 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10996468)
Like I said, we're not America.

People here protesting about police brutality abroad is a separate issue.

Our history with slavery is just as brutal. we used to own all the slave transport contracts, for one.

user104658 08-02-2021 12:48 PM

It's complicated really because, let's face it, every mining village/town in the UK was also built off the back of exploitation... and that's a hell of a lot of them.

user104658 08-02-2021 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10996492)
Lucky them. But at this point, no-one in the UK is worse of because a long forgotten ancestor was a slave.

Hmmmm this is a complicated statement to make. Are people of ethnic minorities in the UK in absolute terms worse off today than they would be otherwise? Perhaps not, I'm sure there are arguments for it, bt it's questionable.

However... in relative terms? Yes, ethnic minorities (as well as working class and even middle class white folx) absolutely are comparatively worse off because of the slave trade... as there are still plenty of wealthy white people in the UK who gained vast portions of their wealth through the slave trade.

I wonder if you think "a few hundred years" is longer than it actually is? Like the era of slavery is "ancient" history? It's only a handful of generations.

arista 08-02-2021 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10996601)
It's complicated really because, let's face it, every mining village/town in the UK was also built off the back of exploitation... and that's a hell of a lot of them.


Yes.


The British Empire was
worlds biggest power
it was a great time if you were British.

Oliver_W 08-02-2021 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10996520)
Our history with slavery is just as brutal. we used to own all the slave transport contracts, for one.

"We" weren't alive at the time, it was our ancestors.

arista 08-02-2021 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10996468)
Like I said, we're not America.

People here protesting about police brutality abroad is a separate issue.




Yes we used to run America

Tom4784 08-02-2021 02:26 PM

We must acknowledge our past fully, not try to sweep it under the rug because it's unpleasant. It's certainly not the place of white people to tell others whether or not they should simply move on.

We as a country profited from the Slave Trade and the empire left the world in a worse state than it was before it was a thing. Acting annoyed because you can't handle the dark parts of your own history is just the height of immaturity. The arrogance of this country is a constant source of irritation for me, we're think we're perfect, beyond blame, but we're not. Our history is vile and telling people to get over it instead of accepting that, for many people, we were the bad guys is just gross.

We can't look down on America and go 'This isn't America' because we helped the slave trade grow, it's as much a stain on our history as it is America's.

arista 08-02-2021 02:54 PM

"We must acknowledge our past fully"



Yes Educational Big Sign
outside at the start of the Great Villages.


OK Dezzy.

Crimson Dynamo 08-02-2021 03:03 PM

isnt this what schools and history classes are for?

i wonder how many of the keyboard outrage warriors actually listened in History instead of dicking about?

lol

arista 08-02-2021 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10996920)
isnt this what schools and history classes are for?

i wonder how many of the keyboard outrage warriors actually listened in History instead of dicking about?

lol



Yes
But lets keep folks like Dezzy
happy, with a Big sign
outside the villages

The Slim Reaper 08-02-2021 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10996926)
Yes
But lets keep folks like Dezzy
happy, with a Big sign
outside the villages

Our history lessons don't really teach these subjects in depth. Ask most British people what they actually learned about the slave trade, and they will basically tell you that Wilberforce saved them all and little else.

Crimson Dynamo 08-02-2021 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10996926)
Yes
But lets keep folks like Dezzy
happy, with a Big sign
outside the villages

I have made a sign that can be used





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