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arista 25-03-2021 06:35 PM

School in West Yorkshire 'showed the Prophet Muhammad Cartoon in a RE class
 
The Teacher has been Suspended

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/03...6673175117.jpg
Police are stopping it
get out of hand.


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/03...6676332524.jpg
Protestors Demand he is Sacked.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/03...6688354035.jpg
[Batley Grammar School headteacher
Gary Kibble, pictured today, has since apologised
for the 'inappropriate' resource]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...own-class.html

[One parent at the school said the cartoon was taken
from Charlie Hebdo, the French satirical magazine
that was attacked in 2015 by Islamist terrorists
who killed 12 people in Paris.
A teacher has been suspended and the school
was forced to apologise, admitting the image was "totally inappropriate".]

https://news.sky.com/story/batley-gr...cials-12256247



Sign Of The Times.

Beso 25-03-2021 06:39 PM

That bloke should have a peg on his grey beard, not his mask.

arista 25-03-2021 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11023982)
That bloke should have a peg on his grey beard, not his mask.

Sure it would help

Crimson Dynamo 25-03-2021 06:47 PM

the more we can expose superstition and indoctrinated falsehoods the better

UserSince2005 25-03-2021 07:34 PM

Someone has a death wish

Oliver_W 25-03-2021 07:44 PM

Why should he have been suspended, and why should the school apologize? We're not living under blasphemy laws.

I just hope he stays safe, we've seen what happens to teachers who show cartoons which annoy them...

Interesting how the protesters are okay with following a text that is full of violence and hatred, but showing a cartoon of a dead paedo is what crosses the line...

Marsh. 25-03-2021 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11023986)
the more we can expose superstition and indoctrinated falsehoods the better

The irony.

Crimson Dynamo 25-03-2021 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11024019)
Why should he have been suspended, and why should the school apologize? We're not living under blasphemy laws.

I just hope he stays safe, we've seen what happens to teachers who show cartoons which annoy them...

Interesting how the protesters are okay with following a text that is full of violence and hatred, but showing a cartoon of a dead paedo is what crosses the line...

Precisely

Mystic Mock 25-03-2021 08:45 PM

But the Teacher didn't do anything wrong?:confused:

arista 25-03-2021 10:28 PM

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arista 25-03-2021 10:28 PM

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Cherie 26-03-2021 07:53 AM

The teacher is now in hiding, are we living in the West or in some regime?

Oliver_W 26-03-2021 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11024112)
The teacher is now in hiding, are we living in the West or in some regime?

I'm just glad islam is the religion of peace, or I'd be really worried about his safety...

Cherie 26-03-2021 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11024118)
I'm just glad islam is the religion of peace, or I'd be really worried about his safety...

That mob should have been dispersed by police, what’s wrong with complaining by email or over the phone

Crimson Dynamo 26-03-2021 08:28 AM

The school is now shut

Nicky91 26-03-2021 08:39 AM

people never learn i see


i mean attacks like the charlie hepdo office one, or another teacher beheading in france even more recently


one would think we would all be more careful regarding prophet muhammad




Islam, according to koran is ''anti-terrorism'' so if this teacher gets any death threats it are radical extremists, like i said many times before and i still stand by my opinion on this, these sicko's are a disgrace for their own religion too whom i don't count as muslims myself (the real muslims are the victims here as well, who get verbal and physical abuse cuz of the actions of those terrorist lunatics)

arista 26-03-2021 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11024112)
The teacher is now in hiding, are we living in the West or in some regime?



There will be Strict Muslims that
want that Teacher killed.


Some kids that were in that class
will let the Strict Muslims
know who that Teacher is.

UserSince2005 26-03-2021 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11024128)
There will be Strict Muslims that
want that Teacher killed.


Some kids that were in that class
will let the Strict Muslims
know who that Teacher is.

They dont just want him killed, they want him beheaded, how barbaric.

arista 26-03-2021 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UserSince2005 (Post 11024129)
They dont just want him killed, they want him beheaded, how barbaric.



Like the French Teacher
a year ago or so.

Oliver_W 26-03-2021 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 11024126)
people never learn i see


i mean attacks like the charlie hepdo office one, or another teacher beheading in france even more recently


one would think we would all be more careful regarding prophet muhammad




Islam, according to koran is ''anti-terrorism'' so if this teacher gets any death threats it are radical extremists, like i said many times before and i still stand by my opinion on this, these sicko's are a disgrace for their own religion too whom i don't count as muslims myself (the real muslims are the victims here as well, who get verbal and physical abuse cuz of the actions of those terrorist lunatics)

Even if their religious texts were anti-terrorism, what actually matters is how they're interpreted and enacted in the world. And the way they're currently being followed is rather pro-terror, and anti-freedom.

Ammi 26-03-2021 09:09 AM

...this are words from Qari Asim...

Asim, chair of the Mosques and Imams National Advisory Board and imam of the Makkah mosque in Leeds, said: “People have a right to express their concerns and hurt but protests can’t always achieve what can be achieved through constructive dialogue. Fair investigation by the school, in consultation with the parents, should be allowed to take place. We do not want to fan the flames of Islamophobia and provoke hatred or division.”




...seriously Arista, any threats of violence or fears of violence would not be from ‘strict Muslims’, it would be from extremists/terrorists...


....the focus now for everyone/the school and the community needs to be how to move forward from this and as Qari Asim has said, communication is the key...and the defusing of any heightened feelings atm...

UserSince2005 26-03-2021 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11024135)
...this are words from Qari Asim...

Asim, chair of the Mosques and Imams National Advisory Board and imam of the Makkah mosque in Leeds, said: “People have a right to express their concerns and hurt but protests can’t always achieve what can be achieved through constructive dialogue. Fair investigation by the school, in consultation with the parents, should be allowed to take place. We do not want to fan the flames of Islamophobia and provoke hatred or division.”




...seriously Arista, any threats of violence or fears of violence would not be from ‘strict Muslims’, it would be from extremists/terrorists...


....the focus now for everyone/the school and the community needs to be how to move forward from this and as Qari Asim has said, communication is the key...and the defusing of any heightened feelings atm...

If you keep burying your head in the sand you wont have a head to bury before long.

arista 26-03-2021 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11024135)
...this are words from Qari Asim...

Asim, chair of the Mosques and Imams National Advisory Board and imam of the Makkah mosque in Leeds, said: “People have a right to express their concerns and hurt but protests can’t always achieve what can be achieved through constructive dialogue. Fair investigation by the school, in consultation with the parents, should be allowed to take place. We do not want to fan the flames of Islamophobia and provoke hatred or division.”




...seriously Arista, any threats of violence or fears of violence would not be from ‘strict Muslims’, it would be from extremists/terrorists...


....the focus now for everyone/the school and the community needs to be how to move forward from this and as Qari Asim has said, communication is the key...and the defusing of any heightened feelings atm...



Extreme Muslims Yes

Oliver_W 26-03-2021 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11024135)
...this are words from Qari Asim...

Asim, chair of the Mosques and Imams National Advisory Board and imam of the Makkah mosque in Leeds, said: “People have a right to express their concerns and hurt but protests can’t always achieve what can be achieved through constructive dialogue. Fair investigation by the school, in consultation with the parents, should be allowed to take place. We do not want to fan the flames of Islamophobia and provoke hatred or division.”




...seriously Arista, any threats of violence or fears of violence would not be from ‘strict Muslims’, it would be from extremists/terrorists...


....the focus now for everyone/the school and the community needs to be how to move forward from this and as Qari Asim has said, communication is the key...and the defusing of any heightened feelings atm...

It shouldn't even be investigated, freedoms shouldn't bow down to a religion. Especially with the threat of violence hanging over things, that's pretty much
bowing down to terrorism.

bots 26-03-2021 10:12 AM

The teacher knew exactly what he was doing and what it would stir up. It was obviously premeditated. It's a long time since I did anything close to religious education (it wasn't big in Scotland :smug:) but, is it appropriate to mock any religion in a RE class - i don't think so

That aside, the point has been made. Those with strong religious beliefs think they can tear down our democracy if it conflicts with their religion and that has to be stamped out quickly

Cherie 26-03-2021 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11024172)
The teacher knew exactly what he was doing and what it would stir up. It was obviously premeditated. It's a long time since I did anything close to religious education (it wasn't big in Scotland :smug:) but, is it appropriate to mock any religion in a RE class - i don't think so

That aside, the point has been made. Those with strong religious beliefs think they can tear down our democracy if it conflicts with their religion and that has to be stamped out quickly

We don't know the context he used the image though? I doubt after what happened in France he wanted to stir up controversy!

bots 26-03-2021 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11024173)
We don't know the context he used the image though? I doubt after what happened in France he wanted to stir up controversy!

If you were in a religious studies class, would you expect your religion to be mocked? Don't get me wrong, i'm all for it, but I wouldn't expect it to be validated by the school. He obviously knew that, it's an emotive cartoon. I feel certain he did it knowingly to raise the issue in the community

Oliver_W 26-03-2021 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11024177)
If you were in a religious studies class, would you expect your religion to be mocked? Don't get me wrong, i'm all for it, but I wouldn't expect it to be validated by the school. He obviously knew that, it's an emotive cartoon. I feel certain he did it knowingly to raise the issue in the community

It doesn't matter why he did it, he should be able to show a satirical drawing without his life being endangered and the only apologies being made are for his actions.

arista 26-03-2021 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11024125)
The school is now shut


[School where teacher showed pupils
cartoons of Prophet Mohammed is forced to SHUT
and he is put under police protection
as dozens of protesters picket gates
for second day despite Gavin Williamson's
ringing condemnation of them]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...econd-day.html

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/03...6747555901.jpg
[The protesters, all Muslim men, are angry
that the RE teacher allegedly showed cartoons
of the Prophet Mohammed to students.]

Crimson Dynamo 26-03-2021 11:59 AM

Its the schools job to tell them that Gods do not exist

these silly men should go home

Oliver_W 26-03-2021 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11024177)
. I feel certain he did it knowingly to raise the issue in the community

That's a fair reason to do it, to be fair. The way the parents ("parents") reacted, you can bet the kids don't get to see much of freedom, so it's only fair to demonstrate this.

arista 26-03-2021 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11024227)
Its the schools job to tell them that Gods do not exist

these silly men should go home



Those men may want to kill the teacher

rusticgal 26-03-2021 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11024179)
It doesn't matter why he did it, he should be able to show a satirical drawing without his life being endangered and the only apologies being made are for his actions.



I agree...however there is no freedom of speech anymore because people get offended by the slightest thing and twist it into something it isn’t.
Considering it was a highly populated Muslim school I think it was a stupid and disrespectful thing to do by a teacher...especially what happened to the teacher in France. Then again we shouldn’t have to yield to Terrorists and murderers.
Sadly it’s the world we now live in.

Oliver_W 26-03-2021 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 11024233)
I agree...however there is no freedom of speech anymore because people get offended by the slightest thing and twist it into something it isn’t.
Considering it was a highly populated Muslim school I think it was a stupid and disrespectful thing to do by a teacher...

No religion deserves respect tbh :shrug: But I agree it was a stupid move, as of course his life would be in danger...

Cherie 26-03-2021 01:01 PM

Do we know in what context the picture was shown? Given he was teaching RE its likely he was making a point about religion being mocked, I seriously doubt he was trying to offend, any more than if they showed the Life of Brian

rusticgal 26-03-2021 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11024246)
Do we know in what context the picture was shown? Given he was teaching RE its likely he was making a point about religion being mocked, I seriously doubt he was trying to offend, any more than if they showed the Life of Brian


I dont suppose he took it in the class and said "Hey everyone take a look at this...." :laugh:

However Cherie...whatever context it was in it was a risque thing to do although I am a great believer in Freedom of Speech.

rusticgal 26-03-2021 01:24 PM

[QUOTE=Oliver_W;11024234]No religion deserves respect tbh :shrug:/QUOTE]


Well I am not a religious person...but I think we should respect people that have one. Having said that...religious people should also respect those that dont have a religion. It should work both ways.
This demonstration could just escalate...the point has been made...the Teacher is being dealt with...

arista 26-03-2021 04:07 PM

The Protestors Demand that Teacher is Sacked.

Cherie 26-03-2021 04:40 PM

Whatever the grievance is here, this is not a normal way to carry on over an school incident take it up via the professional channels that are available to parents if they have an issue with a teacher

Cherie 26-03-2021 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11024340)
The Protestors Demand that Teacher is Sacked.

So much for inclusion, works one way only


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