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Crimson Dynamo 12-05-2021 08:38 AM

Family marks 18th birthday of missing madeleine mccann
 
https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img...=1591802568839

Madeleine or "Maddy", as she is known in Britain, vanished from her family's
apartment in the Algarve holiday resort of Praia da Luz in 2007.

The parents of missing British girl Madeleine McCann are marking the 18th
birthday of their daughter on Wednesday, just over 14 years since she
disappeared on holiday in Portugal.

The disappearance, just days before her fourth birthday, sparked a massive
search effort -- though no trace of her has ever been found -- and an
international media frenzy.

A source close to the family told AFP the McCanns were very private people
and would only comment if there was a fundamental development in
Madeleine's case.

German investigators have identified a convicted sex offender, named in the
press as "Christian B.", as a prime suspect in the case.

London's Metropolitan Police continue to treat Madeleine's disappearance as a
missing person inquiry and said investigations were ongoing.

:fc:

https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incomin...-in-Lisbon.jpg

https://ewn.co.za/2021/05/12/family-...deleine-mccann

Cherie 12-05-2021 12:14 PM

18? no way :eek:

Niamh. 12-05-2021 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11045196)
18? no way :eek:

I remember Luke was the same age as her when she disappeared (although there's a year between them now because he'd only just turned 3 and she was about to turn 4)

Cherie 12-05-2021 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11045200)
I remember Luke was the same age as her when she disappeared (although there's a year between them now because he'd only just turned 3 and she was about to turn 4)

incredible!

GoldHeart 12-05-2021 12:28 PM

Oh my goodness , 18 years old she would have been :shocked: . Poor Madeline.

I remember reading a comment on YouTube a while ago, that said "I hope this case gets solved before I die" . So many people want closure, it's so grim and puzzling how this continues to be an 'ongoing investigation' .

Crimson Dynamo 12-05-2021 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11045200)
I remember Luke was the same age as her when she disappeared (although there's a year between them now because he'd only just turned 3 and she was about to turn 4)

Smallest boy LT was not even 1

now he is 6 foot 1 :shocked:

Niamh. 12-05-2021 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11045202)
Oh my goodness , 18 years old she would have been :shocked: . Poor Madeline.

I remember reading a comment on YouTube a while ago, that said "I hope this case gets solved before I die" . So many people want closure, it's so grim and puzzling how this continues to be an 'ongoing investigation' .

Yeah I think that ship has sailed now unfortunately

Niamh. 12-05-2021 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11045201)
incredible!

I think that's probably why I was so horrified to hear that they'd left her and her younger siblings alone because I had a child the same age and he would have been terrified if he'd woken up in the night and no one was there

Glenn. 12-05-2021 01:04 PM

Heartbreaking.

And disgusting that the neglectful parents were never prosecuted

GoldHeart 12-05-2021 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glenn. (Post 11045215)
Heartbreaking.

And disgusting that the neglectful parents were never prosecuted

Their behaviour is soo weird & suspicious . I'll never understand why they left their children alone like that

rusticgal 12-05-2021 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11045219)
Their behaviour is soo weird & suspicious . I'll never understand why they left their children alone like that



Its not weird or suspicious...its was just neglectful. Their friends were equally neglectful because they left their children alone too which is why they took it in turns to check on them.

UserSince2005 12-05-2021 01:41 PM

Happy Birthday to You,
Happy Birthday to You,
Happy Birthday Dear Maddie,
Happy Birthday to You.

GoldHeart 12-05-2021 03:13 PM

Obviously it's neglectful that's a no brainer,but what I'm saying is everything about the McCann's and their actions IS NOT normal, and I've always suspected foul play.

Crimson Dynamo 12-05-2021 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11045259)
Obviously it's neglectful that's a no brainer,but what I'm saying is everything about the McCann's and their actions IS NOT normal, and I've always suspected foul play.

Thankfully actual trainef Scotland Yard detectives who had all the available evidence don't agree with you

Glenn. 12-05-2021 04:48 PM

LT actually believing that leaving your children alone in an apartment in a foreign country is the right thing to do :skull:

hijaxers 12-05-2021 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11045259)
Obviously it's neglectful that's a no brainer,but what I'm saying is everything about the McCann's and their actions IS NOT normal, and I've always suspected foul play.

Foul play Yes but not by the McCanns

rusticgal 12-05-2021 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11045259)
Obviously it's neglectful that's a no brainer,but what I'm saying is everything about the McCann's and their actions IS NOT normal, and I've always suspected foul play.


So what wasnt Normal??...apart from the negligence.

rusticgal 12-05-2021 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glenn. (Post 11045295)
LT actually believing that leaving your children alone in an apartment in a foreign country is the right thing to do :skull:



He never said that.

Liam- 12-05-2021 05:59 PM

Hope their quiet meal was worth it

AnnieK 12-05-2021 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 11045333)
He never said that.

He has in the past....apparently "millions" of people do it.

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/for...illions&page=2

It's crazy that's its been 14 years, like everyone I remember it clearly.

Negligent parenting. I don't feel they did anything else to be honest but I cannot begin to think how they have managed to live with themselves all these years after leaving those babies alone. Its so sad.

rusticgal 12-05-2021 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 11045339)
He has in the past....apparently "millions" of people do it.

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/for...illions&page=2

It's crazy that's its been 14 years, like everyone I remember it clearly.

Negligent parenting. I don't feel they did anything else to be honest but I cannot begin to think how they have managed to live with themselves all these years after leaving those babies alone. Its so sad.



I would imagine they will regret their decision for the rest of their lives...but they have two other children to consider and no doubt that has given them the will to live. Also...I don’t think they have ever given up hope.

Beso 12-05-2021 07:23 PM

Its many many years, and many years for us all to reflect our feelings over time about this.

My feelings are with the angel in the sky, not the selfish parents who just went to far away from the kids for a meal to be able to use that excuse.

Plus they were doctors, and probably drugged the kids.

Beso 12-05-2021 07:23 PM

Its many many years, and many years for us all to reflect our feelings over time about this.

My feelings are with the angel in the sky, not the selfish parents who just went to far away from the kids for a meal to be able to use that excuse.

Plus they were doctors, and probably drugged the kids.

Marsh. 12-05-2021 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 11045335)
Hope their quiet meal was worth it

.

GoldHeart 12-05-2021 08:36 PM

I honestly don't trust the parents

Crimson Dynamo 12-05-2021 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11045407)
I honestly don't trust the parents

you dont need to as you don't know them, if you recall that was a point you made a few times in the Meghan Markle threads?

Marsh. 12-05-2021 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11045408)
Meghan Markle

:joker:

Hello Piers.

Glenn. 13-05-2021 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 11045333)
He never said that.

Erm
Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 10487528)
The mcCann's behaviour & actions from the beginning have been questionable and very bizarre.

I will never understand how parent's can leave their very young children alone in an apartment while on holiday in a foreign country as they go out for drinks with their friends :facepalm: .

If Madeline WAS kidnapped , the parent's were the ones that made it very easy to happen by abandoning their kids home alone :crazy:. But i don't think we'll ever find out what really happened.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10487532)
they didnt


AnnieK 13-05-2021 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 11045227)
Its not weird or suspicious...its was just neglectful. Their friends were equally neglectful because they left their children alone too which is why they took it in turns to check on them.

It was pretty weird and suspicious...
1- The way Kate went for a run the following day
2- why wash Cuddle Cat, why wash the scent of your child off their favourite toy?
3- why refuse to answer the police questions during the interview, surely you would want to give as much info as possible to help police
4- why remove a fridge for a holiday apartment because it was broken, particularly when your child is missing??
5 - why continue to leave your children alone after one of them has told you she woke crying the.prvious night because ahe was scared and alone
6- on finding Maddie missing, why run out shouting "she's been taken" and leave the twins alone again. Surely your first instinct would be to protect them?
7 - why circulate a picture of her eye to the media after being told not to
8 - why tell family members the shutters had been smashed when they weren't?

That's just some weird behaviour that I can think of off the top of my head. I don't think they were involved and I know everyone would act differently when something of this magnitude happens to them but, in my opinion, their behaviour was weird and quite suspicious

joeysteele 13-05-2021 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 11045477)
It was pretty weird and suspicious...
1- The way Kate went for a run the following day
2- why wash Cuddle Cat, why wash the scent of your child off their favourite toy?
3- why refuse to answer the police questions during the interview, surely you would want to give as much info as possible to help police
4- why remove a fridge for a holiday apartment because it was broken, particularly when your child is missing??
5 - why continue to leave your children alone after one of them has told you she woke crying the.prvious night because ahe was scared and alone
6- on finding Maddie missing, why run out shouting "she's been taken" and leave the twins alone again. Surely your first instinct would be to protect them?
7 - why circulate a picture of her eye to the media after being told not to
8 - why tell family members the shutters had been smashed when they weren't?

That's just some weird behaviour that I can think of off the top of my head. I don't think they were involved and I know everyone would act differently when something of this magnitude happens to them but, in my opinion, their behaviour was weird and quite suspicious

It's very weird indeed Annie.
I've read that before on here, thanks for reminding us of it.

All of that is extremely weird and worrying.

Crimson Dynamo 13-05-2021 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 11045477)
It was pretty weird and suspicious...
1- The way Kate went for a run the following day
2- why wash Cuddle Cat, why wash the scent of your child off their favourite toy?
3- why refuse to answer the police questions during the interview, surely you would want to give as much info as possible to help police
4- why remove a fridge for a holiday apartment because it was broken, particularly when your child is missing??
5 - why continue to leave your children alone after one of them has told you she woke crying the.prvious night because ahe was scared and alone
6- on finding Maddie missing, why run out shouting "she's been taken" and leave the twins alone again. Surely your first instinct would be to protect them?
7 - why circulate a picture of her eye to the media after being told not to
8 - why tell family members the shutters had been smashed when they weren't?

That's just some weird behaviour that I can think of off the top of my head. I don't think they were involved and I know everyone would act differently when something of this magnitude happens to them but, in my opinion, their behaviour was weird and quite suspicious

yes and senior well trained and experienced police detectives have examined all the evidence (not just social media gossip) and find the mccans have no case to answer.

I know who i would rather believe

AnnieK 13-05-2021 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11045514)
yes and senior well trained and experienced police detectives have examined all the evidence (not just social media gossip) and find the mccans have no case to answer.

I know who i would rather believe

I haven't said they have a case to answer. I said, if you read my post, IN MY OPINION, this behaviour is weird and suspicious. I even said, I don't think they did anything untoward except for the negligence.

Plus all that information cane from admissions from them....not social media gossip too.

You don't have to defend them all the time. Would you have done all those things if your child was missing?

GoldHeart 13-05-2021 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 11045477)
It was pretty weird and suspicious...
1- The way Kate went for a run the following day
2- why wash Cuddle Cat, why wash the scent of your child off their favourite toy?
3- why refuse to answer the police questions during the interview, surely you would want to give as much info as possible to help police
4- why remove a fridge for a holiday apartment because it was broken, particularly when your child is missing??
5 - why continue to leave your children alone after one of them has told you she woke crying the.prvious night because ahe was scared and alone
6- on finding Maddie missing, why run out shouting "she's been taken" and leave the twins alone again. Surely your first instinct would be to protect them?
7 - why circulate a picture of her eye to the media after being told not to
8 - why tell family members the shutters had been smashed when they weren't?

That's just some weird behaviour that I can think of off the top of my head. I don't think they were involved and I know everyone would act differently when something of this magnitude happens to them but, in my opinion, their behaviour was weird and quite suspicious


Exactly , what kind of parents behave that way.

Also wasn't there something about the car having blood in it ?.

When Gerry has denied any wrongdoing , he's unconvincing.Even going as far as saying "how would I dispose of her" .

Kate had some disturbing quotes in her book about Madeline, describing in detail how she had "awful images of her daughter's perfect private bits being torn apart" . What the hell.

As I keep saying ,if the McCann's were a lower class or unemployed family living on a rough council estate then I think social services would have taken it alot more seriously.

And investigated the child neglect with a fine tooth comb ,and possibly took their other children away from them.

It feels like all responsibility has been brushed off , even when there was suspicion , things were dropped.

Crimson Dynamo 13-05-2021 10:04 AM

This a good brief article explaining some of the reasons people mistakenly believe conspiracy theories about this case


https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...-british-media

rusticgal 13-05-2021 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 11045477)
It was pretty weird and suspicious...
1- The way Kate went for a run the following day
2- why wash Cuddle Cat, why wash the scent of your child off their favourite toy?
3- why refuse to answer the police questions during the interview, surely you would want to give as much info as possible to help police
4- why remove a fridge for a holiday apartment because it was broken, particularly when your child is missing??
5 - why continue to leave your children alone after one of them has told you she woke crying the.prvious night because ahe was scared and alone
6- on finding Maddie missing, why run out shouting "she's been taken" and leave the twins alone again. Surely your first instinct would be to protect them?
7 - why circulate a picture of her eye to the media after being told not to
8 - why tell family members the shutters had been smashed when they weren't?

That's just some weird behaviour that I can think of off the top of my head. I don't think they were involved and I know everyone would act differently when something of this magnitude happens to them but, in my opinion, their behaviour was weird and quite suspicious


Its funny how everyone thinks they know 'how to behave' when your child goes missing. Everyone reacts differently.

1. Maybe going for a run the next day was her way of clearing her head.
2. washing the toy...maybe a good reason for that that no one knows about.
3. They did assist the police but maybe they didnt like their line of questioning and advised by a lawyer. The Police handled the whole thing poorly.
4. Never heard the fridge thing before but if you are having to stay why would your missing child stop you from replacing a broken fridge?
5. The only behaviour that cannot be defended.
6. She ran out shouting :shrug:....natural reaction.
7. Why not circulate the eye picture...its something that cannot be disguised.
8. No answer to that if its true.

AnnieK 13-05-2021 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 11045583)
Its funny how everyone thinks they know 'how to behave' when your child goes missing. Everyone reacts differently.

1. Maybe going for a run the next day was her way of clearing her head.
2. washing the toy...maybe a good reason for that that no one knows about.
3. They did assist the police but maybe they didnt like their line of questioning and advised by a lawyer. The Police handled the whole thing poorly.
4. Never heard the fridge thing before but if you are having to stay why would your missing child stop you from replacing a broken fridge?
5. The only behaviour that cannot be defended.
6. She ran out shouting :shrug:....natural reaction.
7. Why not circulate the eye picture...its something that cannot be disguised.
8. No answer to that if its true.

You're staying in a managed apartment and you would put a broken fridge in the car and take it away when the apartment owner would do that?

They were told not to circulate the eye picture as its a fairly rare defect in the eye and this could cause would be kidnappers to kill her rather than keep her alive as it made her easily recognisable. But they still shared it.

Running out shouting someone has taken your child whilst leaving the others unattended AGAIN would not be my natural reaction. My reaction would have been to get them away from any danger whilst shouting

Have you seen the questions she refused to answer? Chuff posted them once, they were not leading questions or anything other than questions designed to get basic facts. If you have nothing to hide, I can't see the reason for a no comment interview.

Anyway, you have your opinion and I have mine. Its been a long time and this story, like many others is one very few people will change their opinion on, no matter what anyone else says :laugh:

Niamh. 13-05-2021 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 11045622)
You're staying in a managed apartment and you would put a broken fridge in the car and take it away when the apartment owner would do that?

They were told not to circulate the eye picture as its a fairly rare defect in the eye and this could cause would be kidnappers to kill her rather than keep her alive as it made her easily recognisable. But they still shared it.

Running out shouting someone has taken your child whilst leaving the others unattended AGAIN would not be my natural reaction. My reaction would have been to get them away from any danger whilst shouting

Have you seen the questions she refused to answer? Chuff posted them once, they were not leading questions or anything other than questions designed to get basic facts. If you have nothing to hide, I can't see the reason for a no comment interview.

Anyway, you have your opinion and I have mine. Its been a long time and this story, like many others is one very few people will change their opinion on, no matter what anyone else says :laugh:

They also refused to do a reenactment of the night before which can help a lot in getting time frames and retracing footsteps more accurate.

Also regarding running out and shouting "they've taken her" is such an odd first thought to have. The patio door had been left unlocked, I don't know about anyone else but my first thought would be that she'd woken up, couldn't find them so went looking for them, I'd be worried she'd walked into the road or fell in the pool

Marsh. 13-05-2021 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 11045583)
maybe a good reason for that that no one knows about.

Convenient. :joker:

Crimson Dynamo 13-05-2021 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11045625)
They also refused to do a reenactment of the night before which can help a lot in getting time frames and retracing footsteps more accurate.

Also regarding running out and shouting "they've taken her" is such an odd first thought to have. The patio door had been left unlocked, I don't know about anyone else but my first thought would be that she'd woken up, couldn't find them so went looking for them, I'd be worried she'd walked into the road or fell in the pool

Do you get that it looks suspect to you but to the actual detectives working on the case full time and with all the evidence and interviewing all the people involved...

They do not agree with you?

bots 13-05-2021 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11045692)
Do you get that it looks suspect to you but to the actual detectives working on the case full time and with all the evidence and interviewing all the people involved...

They do not agree with you?

do you accept that there was political interference at the highest level to protect the parents, that would never normally happen in such a case?


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