Diversity win a Bafta for BLM Dance on BGT
 

The viewers voted it as the moment of the year so hopefully it will shut the racists up :clap1:

It won't shut the racists up it will piss them off further so I am all for it.

Luke Skywalker's appearance deserved it more, but the voters obviously preferred the little dance thing so what do I know :)

embarrassing stunt

I'm so happy for diversity
Like Ashley said it's more than an award and it's important :clap1: .

Microwavey should have won :wavey:

Anyway congrats Diversity, well deserved win for a powerful performance

i thought the dance was 100% cringe material

Yes a better clip.

Well this is a bit of a complicated series of events. I thought the dance was GOOD, I don’t think that stand-alone it was anything award winning. The backlash against it was obviously ludicrous, and elevated it to a “cultural moment” and now it’s won a BAFTA off the back of that moment. I think it’s highly unlikely it would have won a BAFTA if the profile hadn’t been raised by the response at the time.

That doesn’t necessarily mean it isn’t deserving of an award though as the reaction to the dance is as much part of the story as the inspiration for the dance.

Hmmm.

100% agree.

The people who felt the need to complain about a dance on a TV show have now succeeded in gaining this award.for it.

Otherwise, it would have been like every other Diversity dance.

is it not a panel that decides who wins bafta's, so it is not an indication of who the public deem most popular

This category was the only public vote

….for me it isn’t complicated at all …it’s the very opposite of complicated as it’s a representation of support from a voting public…so much is always said with ‘displays’ such as this…that it’s the ‘wrong time’, the ‘wrong way’…too this, too that…too political….?…and etc , etc…but those are the very things that make the complicated when the dance was a simple show of support and a very emotional one because that’s what dance allows…it allows for that emotional…and by dance artists who felt the emotion of their dance and conveyed it to their audience in a very powerful way….and the voting public have in turn voiced their support in voting the BAFTA to Diversity…:lovedup:..

Complicated in the sense that “award winning” is usually an indicator of quality or impact whereas “popular with the public” is very rarely an indicator of actual quality.

In this case, as I said, taken in isolation the dance is good but I wouldn’t say “award winningly” good. The impact however of the events as a whole (the backlash, and the backlash to the backlash) contribute to a wider artistic “event” that may well be deserving of recognition. Art is often about provocation, after all.

That’s what makes it complicated. It’s not just a great dance piece winning an award, it’s a fairly mediocre dance piece winning an award because of events in the wider social context; but that’s OK - because the dance is intended as social commentary, so clearly worked as intended as a piece of art.

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they definitely won the Bafta based on how powerful, impactful, memorable the performance truly was

…as a dance piece, I don’t think it is mediocre, though….the dance steps themselves, the power of the dance is in the emotion felt and conveyed by the dancers …that’s what raises something from ‘mediocre’, I guess…when it’s applied to such skilled artists as this when anything and everything they perform is going to be pretty amazing because of their talent level…so pretty ‘award worthy’ if you like….but what for me raised it into an incredible and powerful routine wasn't ‘political’ …it was emotion…and that’s why it was simple and uncomplicated for me and maybe for some/many of the voters, who knows…for me the complication is placing things on it that just distract and detract from the actual dance …it was emotional and it was superb because it was something that perfectly and skilfully conveyed that emotion to many people…

Quite. The best way to show disapproval is silence. If the knuckle-draggers who complained had simply ignored it, it probably would have just sunk.

Ehhh even awards and critical acclaim are pretty meaningless nowadays.

The murder of George Floyd was not a racist murder yet "DIversity" played it like it was (for likes)

embarrassing stunt

Well deserved

this appears to be the case :fan:

Racists, the people so quick to call others snowflakes for not tolerating their racism, are getting twisted and upset over a dance? You love to see it.

I wish racists nothing but despair and misery, may they choke on it.

To be fairrrr, I wish they'd let go of some of that misery and actually start being better people. The misery is only going to drive more hatefulness, misplacing blame for their misery onto anyone but themselves, the "othering" that's really at the heart of things like racism ("I am not happy - how can I make that someone else's fault?") and only makes it easier for them to draw in others. Family, offspring, or just other people looking for somewhere to direct their existential rage.

If we could just harness this energy and point it where it belongs (up, always, UP!) we might actually get somewhere.

I've long since given up on hoping that racists can change, they are limited people, driven only by hate, so at this point I only wish them suffering for that hate.

robbed Queen



boring Brits who are not as racist as previously thought it seems :fan:

there is still hope for Britain indeed :flutter:



also i so wish the racists would put their focus onto their own interests, things they like, rather than spreading nasty hate, but as Dezzy said i agree they will never ever change

People will always be ignorant & racist unfortunately, So they can continue to make themselves miserable and continue to whine at BLM seen as they'll never truly care about equality & human rights.

And I find it hilarious and pathetic that they got themselves into such a tizzy over Diversity's powerful dance , that they complained with foaming mouths . It actually helped Diversity win the BAFTA :laugh:.

Depends on age I think, largely. Edgy racist teens/early 20's can (and often do) grow up, but then, that racism comes from a place of being dumb/blinkered/apathy and thinking it's "funny" rather than the properly hateful brand of racism. I think once someone gets into their 30's and beyond holding onto genuinely racist views, yeah it's probably pretty well baked-in at that point and it's rare for people to change in any meaningful way. I'm sure it does happen on occasion, but a lot of work for very little pay-off.

There's probably quite a few people who cringe and feel embarrassed when they think back to the ignorant things they said & did as a youngster , so yeah a few can definitely grow out of it .

But as for older people still behaving that way, they're a lost cause and it's a waste of energy to try and talk to them. They usually come out with classic Bullsh1t like "immigrants are coming here taking all our jobs" .

Even though it's usually jobs Brits themselves wouldn't touch with a barge pole,but they still like to complain .

A well deserved win!

All I will say is when did the Baftas dumb down to be awarding "moments" like a woman saying a word with funny pronunciation. :/

Did they even dance in it?

Congratulations to them :love:

It's so funny to me that the very people who call others easily offended are the ones ****ting their knickers because of a dance. It won because of the haters. Very deserved.

I'll just go on record as saying im not bothered Diversity won a Bafta, it doesn't affect me either way, good for them i guess? Awards, and award shows are just meh to me in general.

My post was about BLM, not a Diversity dance routine (though i did enjoy watching them on BGT all those years ago).

Diversity are already a laughing stock within the households I visit on a daily basis, when I get chatting about what they can all watch on their tvs now I've fixed them...I request certain areas of london on my round, cause I know I get honest chat.

And believe me, it ain't all how you would imagine.

Uncle something or others ive heard mentioned...

Meh. I wanted Gogglebox!