Weak Gareth Southgate turns England fans against him.
 

Nigel calls him out

Good for Gareth. A manager should support the team if it’s what they want.
More people clapped last week to drown out the morons that decided to boo.

i abhor racism in football, but i dont like the connection that the gesture has to BLM, so i would prefer not to see it. Sport should never be political and BLM is political. Racism is not political however, they need to come up with some other method of supporting kick it out rather than BLM

I totally agree smudgie..
There's sadly still a some racism around sport it seems.
On football terraces particularly.

bore off dictator Farage

…I love how Marcus Rashford simplifies these things like he did with the school meals for children…they’re only complicated and political when they’re made complicated and political…it’s an anti racism/discrimination gesture simply and there is no politics involved in that unless people choose to see that…

The LBC Left Winger
is debating Southgate,

It's a shame that BLM seems to have the monopoly in standing against racism, and there's not a gesture or something which doesn't have their stink on it. Surely there's a way they can silently protest racism without associating with rioters and politics?

Dictator :joker::joker: He's not even an MP.

We have had the Kick it out campaign for years and the players wear it on their shirts.

and its not about racism in football (of which there is precious little in the UK)

this has been used to justify the erroneous decision to "take the knee" in retrospect

I go to a lot of football games at what could be seen as a right-wing club and i never hear or witness racism and our captain and player of the year is black

i am quite sure that is replicated at every ground in the UK

Nottinghamshire MP Lee Anderson
will not watch 'beloved England' in Euro 2020 after players take knee

https://www.nottinghampost.com/news/...on-not-5493867

Yes not a MP.


Nicky has bad MP's in his nation.

Yes Good Points from Nigel

BLM are a Marxist crazy group
(check their website)

This is going on World News
all around the world.

Stay Out of Politics

Bang On Right.

Ah, another day, even more upset racists, bliss

Not on Tibb
none of us are Racists

Imagine Marcus Rashford, a man who has ensured some of the poorest families in the country can feed their kids during this pandemic captains his country for the first time ever. He leads his players out with great pride to take a knee, only to be booed by absolute idiots in the crowd just before they begin an international tournament.

I honestly hate English football fans sometimes.

Debated on BBC2HD
Politics Live.


"They need to find another way of doing it"



Brendon Clark-Smith MP

"Black Lives Matter is a political movement and also
promotes some quite eccentric and extreme policies
such as abolishing the nuclear family
and defunding the police...fans....are
just sick and tired of being preached
and spoken down to. They are there to
watch a football match, not to be
lectured on morality."

Kneeling on the ground achieves nothing, it is nothing more than performative allyship. The only thing that happens is the association with a questionable group pisses people off.

The only people who weren't behind Rashford during the school meals thing were the kind of idiots who say stuff like "can't feed 'em, don't breed 'em".

Sums it up well enough.

which bad MP's :conf:



Baudet is no longer in our parliament thankfully


and well Wilders, although he is hardcore far-right pvv, he sometimes does say some good things, during the corona regulation debates for example

…when the Daily Star thinks you’re a numpty and the biggest berk in Britain …oh Lozza….

Tbh they should be taking a knee on twitter and the like, not on a football pitch.

Hes ensured we can feed the poor families kids, not the poor families feeding their own kids

good one, tell another

I totally agree.
Im sure the FA were against wearing poppies and the Manchester City manager was reprimanded for wearing a political badge.

Yes that would be far better

If the players want to peacefully make a point then who the hell are we to tel them that “kneeling doesn’t achieve anything”. These same fans were having meltdowns over a damn super league and yet simply kneeling before a game starts isn’t a worthy protest or message.

If it pisses off people then it just shows how much more work there is to do.

a lot of people don't agree with the politics of BLM and kneeling is directly linked to BLM. Why should they accept football being political. We already had kick it out which was specific to the cause and non political

One of them will strain a muscle one day, I hope it's just before the whistle on june 18th

quite

there is little "racism " in UK football

there is in American based social media

and in America

blm is a despicable "organisation" that has Nothing to do with the UK

get up off your knees and wake up

Here's look at the state of deluded Lozza in that pic :skull: , he probably thinks he looks nice .

why he never took the pic and hasnt seen it? :conf:

He doesn't look as daft as that english numpty dying his hair to look like gazza.

But my question is.

Why isnt the discussion of black players not taking the knee not being discussed?

Surely that is far more interesting than some half pissed white men booing uf they ain't got a mouthful of overpriced sausage meat half way down their gullets.

Why do they not take a knee?

If its cause they refuse to knee down whilst sweaty white men boo them I see their point..

I just dont know if that's their point....someone educate me please.

Spare me with that bull.


I’m sure match going football fans have always cared about the ins and outs of Marxism and Communism or whatever else the pitiful excuse was from that section.


Also, taking a knee is inspired more by Colin Kaepernick and MLK Jr than anything BLM. It just became more of a thing in the U.K after the BLM protests here. That would involve too much research though, let’s just boo them before they set off for a tournment. Hell, we didn’t even boo John Terry who called someone a black bastard on a football pitch.

i'm trying to provide a very reasonable response and I get don't give me that bull .... Thats part of the problem

…Marcus Rashford discussed this again last night…well, he had a few second slot is all but it was mentioned again….I honestly don’t know and can’t fathom why the simple spirit of such a thing as taking the knee to show a united mindset against racism and inequality is being turned into such a negative thing ….taking the knee is not political, it shows a one mind together against inequality…it’s a gesture that everyone is of that same like mind because hopefully most people are…people like Farage try to place so much on it because change and progression is his personal ‘fight’….that’s displayed in everything he does and says…

…anyways from what I can see, the majority support but the booing is obviously what’s heard and then again, that’s used as a…oh look, people don’t agree…when it really does seem to be a booing few…let them boo while the knee continues to be taken in support …politics isn’t being supported, equality is…

forcing extreme left wing political doctrine down peoples throats at the start of every england football game is not going to achieve universal support for it. The longer it continues the more dessent there will be

"people don’t agree…when it really does
seem to be a booing few…let them boo while the knee
continues to be taken in support …politics isn’t being
supported, equality is…"





Those Fans pay for that
match they are watching Ammi
they Hate Politics being Dragged into the match.


I am sure Marcus understands that.
And just wants to stay as a Goal Winning Player

Yes it stinks