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arista 27-06-2021 05:21 PM

Birmingham McDonald's: Woman chucks drink in Security blokes face
 
[McDonald's security guard grabs Baton and beats young
prankster to ground then Kicks her in face after
she lobs drink at him outside Birmingham branch]


[It is only when the security guard continues
kicking the back of her head that an
onlooker shouts at him to stop.
The footage cuts out just after other bystanders
come into shot who have also been filming
without discouraging the security guard
from beating the unarmed woman.

McDonald's has been contacted for comment.]


Video on this link
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...an-ground.html


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/06...4803779006.jpg

Crimson Dynamo 27-06-2021 05:23 PM

poke a dog with a stick

dont moan about being bitten

Marsh. 27-06-2021 05:31 PM

Hopefully he gets what's coming to him. Scumbag.

AnnieK 27-06-2021 06:05 PM

The amount of violence was in no way proportionate. She instigated the altercation by throwing the ice but to kick and hit someone who is on the ground, especially around the head is disgusting.

Vanessa 27-06-2021 06:06 PM

Yes, it's too much. You can kill someone that way. :shocked:

Cherie 27-06-2021 06:10 PM

When he went back and kicked her again, he had lost all control, hope he is done for GBH

the guy filming as well instead of intervening

arista 27-06-2021 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11065270)
When he went back and kicked her again, he had lost all control, hope he is done for GBH

the guy filming as well instead of intervening


Yes, he could get Sacked

AnnieK 27-06-2021 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11065275)
Yes, he could get Sacked

He should get sacked....and criminal charges

smudgie 27-06-2021 06:49 PM

Ouch.
He should be done for GBH.
Such a big brave man....not.:fist:

bots 27-06-2021 07:26 PM

it's an assault charge if you don't use reasonable force, and that isn't reasonable force by any definition

UserSince2005 27-06-2021 09:35 PM

When she tried to laugh it off and he went back for more and kicked her in the head :skull:
People think they can do what they want to people with no consequences.
This day, she lost.
Treat people with respect.
Dont look down on people because of the job they do.
He’s not a dog. He showed her that.

ThomasC 27-06-2021 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11065302)
it's an assault charge if you don't use reasonable force, and that isn't reasonable force by any definition

Yes. From a legality point of view the force used has to be reasonable, proportionate and necessary.

Doesn't fit any of those boxes.

UserSince2005 27-06-2021 09:42 PM

Imagine going to work every day and being treated like this constantly by scum. The man broke. And she got the brunt.

ThomasC 27-06-2021 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UserSince2005 (Post 11065380)
Imagine going to work every day and being treated like this constantly by scum. The man broke. And she got the brunt.

Yes, not that it excuses it.

He lost the plot though and rage took over.

Shouldn't be in that industry if you can't take the heat.

Amy Jade 27-06-2021 10:00 PM

He shouldn't have taken it as far as he did clearly, especially after she was on the floor but why throw ice in his face?

Amy Jade 27-06-2021 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UserSince2005 (Post 11065380)
Imagine going to work every day and being treated like this constantly by scum. The man broke. And she got the brunt.

That's not an excuse though.

I reach breaking point in my job occasionally, I get kicked, slapped, even had my hair pulled a few times. I get on with it and have a cry in the car, you can't become aggressive.

Crimson Dynamo 27-06-2021 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UserSince2005 (Post 11065380)
Imagine going to work every day and being treated like this constantly by scum. The man broke. And she got the brunt.

Agree

Saph 27-06-2021 10:10 PM

tbf id have smacked her too

Livia 28-06-2021 10:09 AM

She assaulted him. While he overreacted massively, she instigated it. Fingers crossed that this same reaction occurs next time someone throws a milkshake at someone.

Babayaro. 28-06-2021 11:26 AM

Not sure how anyone can condone that level of violence? :think:

She obviously acted like a dickhead by throwing her drink over him but his reaction was way over-the-top. It wasn’t even like a spur of the moment reaction in self defence, but instead he had time to go get his baton, walk over to her, proceed to beat her with it, walk away, walk back, and then kick her in the face.

Disgusting.

Livia 28-06-2021 11:54 AM

I don't think anyone's going to be pinning any medals on the security guard, he lost control completely and his response was waaaay over the top. But he wasn't the instigator. I certainly wouldn't employ him myself, and think he doesn't belong in any kind of job where he works with the public.

user104658 28-06-2021 12:07 PM

You definitely shouldn't work security if you can't keep your cool in response to violence... I'd also even with the job out of the equation though, argue that any physical retaliation to a drink being thrown is a massive over-reaction and quite concerning. Even if it was just the shoving to the ground. Kicking in the head...? ...because you got a drink over you...? No I don't think that's a normal "pushed to the edge" reaction, I think he might want to explore some sort of anger management therapy.

I'm even trying to think of extreme scenarios. I'm not a violent person and generally wouldn't hit (or even throw stuff) for any reason but let's say an extreme scenario where I look out the window and an adult man has just hit one of my kids. Would I get aggressive and shove? Definitely. Would I if I lost my cool start throwing punches? Very possible... but... would I aim a couple of kicks at their head on the ground. No... even in that circumstance... it's really a next-level form of aggression.

Livia 28-06-2021 12:12 PM

I think his firm's entry requirement should definitely have been a little more stringent. But they probably take who they can get.

Edit: And another thing... Security guards at McDonalds?

user104658 28-06-2021 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 11065545)
I think his firm's entry requirement should definitely have been a little more stringent. But they probably take who they can get.

Edit: And another thing... Security guards at McDonalds?

I was talking about this a couple of weeks ago - that when I was in London a couple of years ago, there were bouncers at KFC! Cherie told me it wasn't the case that London fast food places have bouncers but here's another one clear as day :fist:. Proven liar Cherie.

Livia 28-06-2021 12:28 PM

I'll try not to get too despondent at least until they have security checks at the Early Learning Centre. Then I'm throwing in the towel.

Livia 28-06-2021 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 11065553)
I was talking about this a couple of weeks ago - that when I was in London a couple of years ago, there were bouncers at KFC! Cherie told me it wasn't the case that London fast food places have bouncers but here's another one clear as day :fist:. Proven liar Cherie.

LOL... Cherie's here. Good luck TS, it's been a pleasure................

bots 28-06-2021 12:32 PM

i think there may be more security due to covid. There was a security guard at the shopping centre i visited recently and that was never the case before. He did absolutely nothing even though people were not wearing masks, but thats another story

Cherie 28-06-2021 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 11065553)
I was talking about this a couple of weeks ago - that when I was in London a couple of years ago, there were bouncers at KFC! Cherie told me it wasn't the case that London fast food places have bouncers but here's another one clear as day :fist:. Proven liar Cherie.

It's Birmingham if you read the article :hee:

he lobs drink at him outside Birmingham branch]


I accept apologies in currency

user104658 28-06-2021 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11065567)
It's Birmingham if you read the article :hee:

The situation is spreading :worry:

bots 28-06-2021 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11065567)
It's Birmingham if you read the article :hee:

he lobs drink at him outside Birmingham branch]


I accept apologies in currency

he should send you £1600 in bitcoins or else you will publish his most loved score for the last 3 years

Cherie 28-06-2021 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11065569)
he should send you £1600 in bitcoins or else you will publish his most loved score for the last 3 years

:joker:

Niamh. 28-06-2021 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11065569)
he should send you £1600 in bitcoins or else you will publish his most loved score for the last 3 years

https://media3.giphy.com/media/xT1XG...=200w.gif&ct=g

user104658 28-06-2021 12:55 PM

Umm I would have won this year clearly, but I opted out and also I think it got cancelled because we all hate each other.

Niamh. 28-06-2021 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 11065582)
Umm I would have won this year clearly, but I opted out and also I think it got cancelled because we all hate each other.

:laugh2:

I was only going to vote if we could give minus points tbh :idc:

Babayaro. 28-06-2021 12:56 PM

Security at McDonald’s is fairly normal I thought? Especially late at night when your customers are predominately those going home from a night out

user104658 28-06-2021 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11065585)
:laugh2:

I was only going to vote if we could give minus points tbh :idc:

Reminds me of a forum I used to be on where there was a reputation system where you got "green gems" under your name, but you could also "neg" and it went into a negative scale of "red gems"... so of course there was competition to have the most red gems.

user104658 28-06-2021 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Babayaro. (Post 11065586)
Security at McDonald’s is fairly normal I thought? Especially late at night when your customers are predominately those going home from a night out

I've literally never seen it up here but then, I don't think I've ever been in a McDonalds later than maybe 10pm.

My KFC-bouncers experience was at like 6pm :joker:. Also it was 2018 I think, so well pre-Covid.

Babayaro. 28-06-2021 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 11065602)
I've literally never seen it up here but then, I don't think I've ever been in a McDonalds later than maybe 10pm.

My KFC-bouncers experience was at like 6pm :joker:. Also it was 2018 I think, so well pre-Covid.

The McDonald’s on princes street usually had them lol

Niamh. 28-06-2021 01:19 PM

They definitely had bouncers in Burger King when I was a teenager, I don't think McDonalds stayed open late back then, oh and there was an Abrakebabra that stayed open late and they had bouncers too

user104658 28-06-2021 01:20 PM

Could have done with them in the "all-night bakery" up in Dundee when I was a student to be fair - that place at 2am was full on Mad Max sometimes. Didn't help that it was actually in a warehouse type building on a random industrial estate nowhere near anything else. But it would have queues of students 50+ long from midnight - 3am :joker:.


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