Comedian Andrew Lawrence's shows are cancelled
 

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If only he did not tweet on this topic.


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[In a post on Twitter, the venue, in Totton,
near Southampton, said: 'Following the racist
comments made by comedian
Andrew Lawrence on Twitter we made
the decision to cancel his show.

'As part of a learning disability charity
Minstead Trust, we work hard to
promote inclusivity,
provide safe spaces for everyone and
have zero tolerance for racism.']


After receiving a backlash for the
comments, he then doubled-down,
adding: 'I can see that this has offended
a lot of people, and I'm sorry that
black guys are bad at penalties.'

Lawrence later took a swipe at
Rashford's campaigning to
encourage the Government to continue
giving out free school meal vouchers during the pandemic.]


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it's not even original, he deserves all he gets

I remember him once on Live at the Apollo. He was awful. Happy what little was left of his career is dead.

…I have no idea who he is…he pretty much would have known that would happen, though…no venue/organisation would want to have that association and showcase his views that are aimed to offend…it feels as though he more wanted the publicity and his aim was to be cancelled because now people are more aware of him…

So you believe he should be cancelled from his job as a comedien because his material is offensive, but you'll happily watch a film with offensive material?

Shouldn't we just get rid of every film ever made with offensive material in it? We can't just single out one guy.

…that’s not what I said at all, though …it feels as though he may have purposefully ‘joined a bandwagon’ with his material of something that’s very high profile atm with the racial abuse against some England players to ‘increase his profile in terms of being discussed etc…’….but I have no idea who he is or what his act is and he would know that the content of his comedy would alienate some venues/organisations, which it obviously has…

I’d say that he has achieved his objective with those tweets,
prior to today I don’t think I’d heard of him, but I have now.

He knew what he was doing obviously, yeah I had never heard of him either

So essentially you’re saying that he doesn’t have the comedy chops to succeed as a
household-name comedian in 2021, so he’s had to resort to an attempt to appeal to a niche market of brexit chavs and gammons. “The Jim Davidson Method” as it’s known. Also used by mediocre telly actors attempting to slide into politics.

Jimmy Carr is still working......

karma is indeed a ******* bitch

:hehe:



never even heard of this ''comedian'' till these tweets, and based on those tweets, glad he's been cancelled

He's establishment and rich, he gets a pass.

If your post means that I think that he tried to get some cheap publicity by tweeting contentious remarks, then yes.
Whether he had the “comedy chops” to succeed I don’t know, as prior to this I’d not seen nor heard of him.

also it's not just the racist part, but ''wishing children to starve'' is also unacceptable :umm2:

…that might have been me who pondered that as well…only because up until today I had no knowledge of him so it’s a pondering rather than any type of accusation …and this topic would be considered very ‘bandwagon’ atm, very high profile….


…having said that, I’m sure that there are many comedians that I’m not familiar with, stand up is something that I don’t watch very much of…

I once saw a guy in a film have knives on his hands and kill teenagers in their dreams. They didn't even arrest him, in fact they let him make some more films where he killed even more people.


I've just realised, it was probably part of the act.

He even goes on the explain the joke and the structure/satire and how the comedy is in the subverted expectation. That’s not for everyone but it’s a cornerstone of satire.

And I’m not even a Jimmy Carr fan - I do think he leans a little too heavily on the “shocks” (like Frankie Boyle).

Three black football players not scoring on penalties and then saying “lol black guys are **** at penalties” is not ANY form of satire?

…I’m sure you understand this, somewhere deep down.

yes the distinction is that the comedian in question was not making a joke he was posting on twitter where as Carr is perhaps telling a joke but its a very fine line in this instance i think

…the biggest impact atm seems to be that his agency have dropped him and those are the ones that would have got him all of his performance gigs…

Never Mind, it's only his living he's losing, his kids will just have to go without.Still it's worth it, as long as offended people on social media get some satisfactory justice.

Yes Wicked Joke

It isn’t because the joke is the subversion not the statement. Carr’s joke wasn’t “African people have AIDS lol”. The BEST you could argue for this guy if being generous is that he’s an unskilled/unfunny comedian who was trying his best but doesn’t really know how to frame a joke.

He chose to make the joke, if he didn’t realise there was a risk of losing shows/money from being racist on Twitter then he’s stupid as well as unfunny, and he won’t be the first person to lose a job for stupidity.

I tend to agree with the above though; he’s aimed for publicity through controversy, made the decision to take a calculated risk, and whether that’s paid off for him or not remains to be seen. He may well be taken under the wing of the Lozza Fox/Katie Hopkins/Jim Davidson types.

He knows how to frame a joke, what you mean is, you don't like his jokes, which is perfectly fine, I don't like Jo Brands jokes, but when cancel culture came to take her away a few years ago, I didn't want her cancelled. Thankfully for her, she can sell tickets and bring in viewers, so she is capable of making money for people, so she's valuable and willing to tow the line of what is accepted. So she didn't get cancelled. Lawrence mocks the establishment with his comedy, he had to go.

Comedian Andrew Lawrence's shows are cancelled
 

He wasn’t “cancelled” though, no one went digging through old material to pressure his management into dropping him or anything like that, he made a current tweet by choice, people expressed their dislike of it, and his representation made the business decision to drop him.

Is that not their right? Should there be government mandates to stop private enterprises from following the course of action that they believe best protects their profits? That’s very lefty, Alf.

People were contacting the clubs he had gigs booked at to get his shows cancelled, These people are the modern day witch hunters, they've now burnt him. That's where we're at now, we're back to witch hunts of humans. It's fun and games when it's not happening to you, but when it eventually comes round to your turn, nobody is coming to your aid, they've all gone.

Never heard of him, no harm by the look of it

The only way the witch hunter analogy would be anywhere near relevant, is if the good women of Salem were busy going round telling everyone they could do magic, fly on brooms, had black cats, and belonged to satan.

Oh no! People will not tolerate racism! Whatever will we do????!!!

Isn’t that pretty much just the entire racism thread yesterday summed up?

“Hello, good sir? Hello I am a witch. Yes… a witch… spells and curses and whatnot. Curses upon you and your family, good day!”

“We are going to burn you now for being a witch.”

“WHAT??!?!?!”

You know humour, why don't you explain to the forum who the target of Lawrence's joke was. I'll give you a clue, it wasn't Rashford, Sancho or Saka.

Go on, explain the meaning of his joke.

I'll explain the joke to you when you've had a guess. Because I get tgat people just don't understand humour these days, they're too busy looking for a victim to hate and bully.

Not gonna answer so I'll explain it to you. People like Sadiq khan here is who Lawrence was mocking with his joke. All those people who spent the entire tournament banging on about and pushing race issues. The ones who were constantly saying, "The England football team would be nothing without immigration" That's who's he's taking the pi55 out of.

Didn't I make this exact point after the game? I didnt mean it as a joke so not sure what this fools up to. I just knew , from my decades of experience that someone somewhere was thinking - Ugh. Black players missed, white players scored, . Its a mentality and its not going away anytime soon IMO.

Dont think so. I made the same point on the night ad I wasn't thinking any of that stuff. I just know some people are just so 'basic' in their thoughts

There are a few issues at play here, so replying in the exact way you want won't be possible, but I'm happy to give you a reply, and I'll even try an pre-empt your future reply and explain why I think you're wrong in advance.

Firstly, I'm not sure it's a joke. I don't mean that he knew it wasn't a joke, or didn't mean it to be a joke, I'm just not sure it's in anyway a joke. If I was being charitable, the closest genre you could try and squeeze it in to wold be satire, and I think it falls a million miles short.

I think you're going to try and give an explanation that it's about online crazies and the left and both of them mixed up at the same time, and here's where I'll try and pre-empt your reply.

If you're using satire as your comedic vehicle, then you'd better be punching up, and when you post racist stuff, you're automatically punching down, and then it stops ever being satire imo.

And alternatively GiRTh, had they have all scored and been the heroes, people like Sadiq Khan would have been saying our win was solely down to imagination and diversity. But the difference is, he wouldn't have been saying it as a joke, he would mean it as a fact. And that's the reason Lawrence is mocking these people, and as a comedian, so he should be, it's his job too.

He may say that and I'm no supporter of his.

If Kahn said a win was 'Solely' due to diversity I'd agree but if he said diversity contributed then I think he'd be making a good point TBH